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Freya Viva & 36JJ Elomi Namrah 36K - Need recommendations!

I can’t seem to locate the actual tag code but it’s the one that seems to be based off of rio?

Anyways this is the first freya bra I’ve tried that has been a near perfect fit, unfortunately I don’t seem to be getting any recommendations on what to try.

The fit issues seem to be not enough space at ... the wires and im experiencing weird underwire overlap. I feel like if I order my correct size then the cups will be too open on top. Already having to wear the bra on the last row of hooks. I’m pretty sure im functionally FOB and shallow on top. If the bra has anything more than a slight give to the upper section I get bagging. For example, freya fancies, starlight, and daisy lace all fit horribly, boobs basically pooled in the bottom leaving the tops of the cups completely empty. I got close to a near perfect fit on Namrah but found the straps to be uncomfortably far, wires were probably too wide/high under my arms (would probably be solved w a bra extender, the band seems to run small) but the cups fit otherwise.
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Plunge bras that are more like balconettes!?

I was just going through a rabbit hole on plunge bras in the comments on my own review: https://www.bratabase.com/bra/dns7m/ and then thought this topic should be it's own post.

So I am searching for bras with low gores because I have close - set breasts. I am in the GG-H size range. I looked at many plunge styles from ... different popular brands and would always check for pictures & measurements on here. I noticed that so many bras have gore heights that in my opinion make the bra more of a balconnette than a plunge. I can barely find bras that have a low enough gore in my size range. I like 6cm or below. Many bras in my size have 7-9cm gore.
I checked out so many so called plunge bras, like Panache Ana, many freya styles, Elomi or Sculptresse plunges, some from CK and the gores were all quite tall. Not like the balconettes but still taller than I would expect from plunge styles.
I assume the companies know that the customers want plunge bras, but they likely not fit with too low gores in the larger size ranges (overspill) so they make the gores taller but still sell them as "plunge style".

I did those 2 random comparisons: (not even the same sizes but I had to pick those that had the measurements) :

https://www.bratabase.com/compare/digv3/

https://www.bratabase.com/compare/digvb/

Freya being way taller in even smaller sizes?!

These were only the UK brands, but apparently new Ewa Michalak PL bras have taller gores than older styles, and Comexim Plunges are also basically balconettes in larger cups.
I understand that too low plunges might not work for everyone but like offer one or two for those that want to buy them? Pls...
Actual plunges Cleo Dakota and Cleo Koko are both discontinued.
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- Have you checked out Elomi Namrah? I have fairly close set breasts but am functionally FOB with a lot of immediate projection. The freya viva side support was tolerable/fit cup wise one size down which was really surprising to say the least bc freya seems to never work for me otherwise. Frequently run into issues with most plunge/balconette type bras coming up too high, even found the Matilda aggravating. The band on it does seem to run really snug so I’d size up but the cups seem to be TTS for me, so you might have better luck going up one size since youre FOT. They were also sturdy enough to where I also wasn’t spilling out into the center.
  
  The Namrah was the first bra (36K) that I’ve tried on that actually fit like a plunge and not a regular full cup bra. I’ll see if I can upload photos.
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Big size difference in Comexim larger cups?

This week I received my long awaited BF Comexim order, with the right bras this time. When I took them out of the packaging I was shocked at how big they were and was worried they sent a wrong size again but it was the right size.
I have ordered 75M (Comexim calculator app gave me this) since my old 75Ks ... are 1-2 cup sizes too small. There was major quadboob on my bigger breast so I decided to fit my larger side I need 2 cups up.
The 75Ms are far too large! Like 1-2 cup sizes!
They are so beautiful but there is major gapping on top of the cups. The size difference is huge! http://bra.pe/IBBsk/
Do they do different scaling in larger cups?
I will try 75L next and also ask Comexim for fit advice.
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Comparing a 75K Comexim Elena Plunge Bra (315) with a 75...

The band is pretty much the same in both bras. Even though the 75K bra has wider

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- That's a crazy size difference! I'm still trying to find my Comexim size as well, and I notice the bra size changes with every style. I was trying sizes in 2 different padded plunges, and one seems way bigger than the other.
- Bare with me, I am swelling, sore, achy and pms tired but will try to make this simple to follow.
  
  I noticed this same issue, going from their 60J/JJ in Breakout Bras balconette, to 60K Anna Pardel balconette. Scaling simply extends farther out at the top of the cups- not in a tall flat wall way, but in a dear lord is this 5 sizes larger? way. In my mind there should have only been a 2 comexim cup size difference, but both sizes kept the same depth at the same lower areas. So the 60K AP is nearly 2" taller in the cup and gapped massively above my breasts, while fitting rather tight and causing vertical bulging when I tried them on.
  
  I'd also found that my 60O/P (non custom) Comexim halfcups are comparatively MINISCULE at a full 2" shorter at the top hem, than their 30KK/32K BB and AP labeled counterparts. There are also much more narrower/taller wires compared to the smaller sizes in the larger range, placing the wires in front where one's bust is, but leveraging the extra depth quite far from the body.
  
  I theorize that this excess cup elongation is from placing the increase of volume nearer to the top horizontal seam, higher up in each consecutive size the way that corsetiers add bust room with gores to a corset (between vertical seams near the upper hem, not starting far down the ribcage which would cause the bust to become wide/flat).
  
  Consider also that this higher depth runs parallel to the tips of the underwire arms; rather than equidistantly distributed from the center of each panel that would make fullness in the lower cup pieces.
  
  When I reflect on how I had to consider custom orders from Comexim in the past, they were concerned about the WIRE HEIGHT! They did not want me to 'fall out of the cup with a very short gore (ah haha my breasts go up to my neck, they will fall out no matter what if I am not standing stick straight upright), and they didn't want the wing very tall as they believed it would dig in (not for sideheavy tissues, raise that bar to the sky to contain them, thanks).
  So I did not have this excess of 'ultimate depth towering at the top of the cup, when basing customs off my last 'best fitting' Comexims. I do think they made good effort to keep the fullness centered lower by way of lowering the wires (thus cup height is limited), and have been thinking about the traits clientele have when they do so, but otherwise have no real way of knowing whether any one customer will have a taller torso or smaller shoulders, so tend to put the most volume at the farthest aspect from the body (ultimate depth).
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55H - Comexim » Yvette

I was stunned by this one when I first saw it! The print, the colors, it’s absolutely gorgeous 😍 it definitely looks a lot better than the photo on Comexim’s website. I will say though, I am a little disappointed in how much looser this one fits compared to my other bras. Also, I noticed some rough and unfinished stitching on the band, close to the size tag (visible in photo); as well as some loose thread on the bow. Thankfully, I don’t mind because this bra is beautiful to me.

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- Wow, the Yvette is stunning in your photo! 😍 It’s a shame about the fit and stitching though—I’ve heard some Comexim styles run looser than others. Maybe a smaller band or cup alteration could help? For the stitching, you could gently trim the loose threads. Still, glad the beauty outweighs the flaws for you—it really is a showstopper!
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55H - Comexim » Elena Half Cup

I love the lace detailing for the underwire channel. The cups are simple, which I love, but the lace just elevates the bra in a beautifully elegant way.

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55H - Comexim » Cats 3hc

The cat lover in me couldn’t resist 🤭💘🐈‍⬛ I just love this print!

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- you got such a good cut of fabric too! plenty of cats on yours!!
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34H - Cleo » Dakota (9646)

Finally a pretty bra! I currently have to buy bras because my size changed and old bras don't work anymore.
I was forced to buy many bras I did not like the colour / design back when I was a K+ cup size, because of very limited options. I loved all sorts of beautiful bras over the years that did not ... come in my size or did not fit. Now I'm in the in GG-H range I finally want to buy them all. Sadly they all got discontinued or replaced by more boring and bland styles. When I saw this Cleo bra, it was love at first sight! This is totally up my alley! So I snapped it up on ebay, found out by reserach that this is an old style probably from back in 2018... so happy one was left in my size.
So it fits me quite well, wires are very stiff, like expected from Panache/ Cleo. I think I have to break it in a bit to be comfortable. The wires are on the wider side, but not very tall on the sides. Quite right for my wide-shallow-tall shape. The gore is very low for a plunge bra in this size! I have very close-set breasts and this is low enough. Sadly since Cleo wires are so stiff, it digs in but I will use some cotton pads until the bra is broken in.
Shape and uplift are medium. I would not recommend this for very soft, pendulous breasts. I don't think it would be supportive enough. Semi-firm to firm breast, and fairly self-supportive will suit this bra.
The pink seam between the floral and white part does show under tops.
Overall I think I can make this work for me and it will go into my new bra rotation.
Cups run small imo.... I am 34GG in ABTF calculator.
The bra has only 2x3 hooks, usually a no-no for me, but it was too pretty to pass up.
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- Congrats! It's so cute and I hope that this becomes a tried & true staple for many years, along with as many other cool colourways. I am curious about sizing info as the 30H looks to be a bit small IMHO, but maybe that's just plunges in general? Before this style, cleo and panache plunges appeared to be more triangular wide shallow which doesn't work well in my family, therefore much ignored in favor of CK and freya.
- Yes that 30H looks small. I think this runs small. I will compare to some of my other bras. Often the measurements of plunge bras appear small because one measures cup depth diagonal vs horizontal (don't know if if makes sense?) like in a balconette you measure from gore to the wire ending under the arm a "half sphere" of depth. in plunge it's from low gore diagnoal up to the side wire end.
  
  I also think it would not work for very deep soft pendulous breasts, the whole construction would collapse, the seams and cup edge cut in and breast tissue fall out at the gore.
  
  I always assumed that Freya and CK had wide wires too? Esp CK. Maybe they changed over the years or it depends on bra style
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0 - Enell » Sports (100)

This brand *changed my life* and I wish that I had discovered them years ago. Sadly, since I was taking bra-buying advice from the A Bra That fits forum on reddit (which is run by a marketing corporation; they are paid to promote a few sponsored brands only, and unfairly criticize the rest. sometimes the brands change, but they usually ... try to push one brand of sports bra for people in my size range, sometimes two.) Their sponsored brands do not work for me -- looking at you Panache wired sports bra -- and are absolute fit disasters. And that's after trying 3 different sizes.

Water under the bridge now, but I absolutely would have appreciated the knowledge that the forum is run by digital marketers that are paid to plug a few different brands only, not to give objective bra-buying advice. But nobody told me.

WHAT I LOVE ABOUT THIS BRA: Even though it took me like 3 years to find this (to be fair, I had ordered it a long time ago - through Breakout Bras sale prices, would highly recommend them - but then I had both weight gain, then weight loss), finally victory is mine! It was easier for me to find an amazing everyday bra that fit (Comexim, Ewa Michalak, Kris Line, et. all...basically all the Polish brands) vs. a sports bra. for some reason. when I finally did find a sports bra that fit, I feel like I need to give a thank you speech like Cuba Gooding, Jr. at the 1997 Oscar Awards https://youtu.be/cnCMqr1QRQw?si=9033VStyh-uJnPn1 IYKYK!

-very easy to put on/take off compared to some sports bras which fasten in the back
-I love the quality
- some people think that it looks boring, but I really like the aesthetics.
-love the fabric, it's soft and smooth against my skin. despite having sensitive skin, I don't notice irritation with Enell
- most importantly, IT WORKS. It's one of the few sports bras that work for me for high impact. aka, running. (note: I also found success with my Syrokan sports bra that I bought years ago. It works for me, but it's I find it difficult to put on- it's like a two-person project to get it fastened in the back- and it also can be difficult to take off when your hot & sweaty. If you don't mind those things, Syrokan is less expensive, but since I discovered Enell, they are my ride-or-die sports bra).

If you are in their size range, Enell is worth checking out. (wait, now I sound like an online sales shill!) they advertise C+ sports bras. Fun fact I learned about Enell: they were created by a hairdresser in MT.

I also have their Lite Sports bra for low-impact sports https://www.bratabase.com/bra/dnlbe/ and I like that one as well.
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- This looks very promising! I still bounce a lot in my sports bra.
  What size are you?
  Do you think a size 0 would work on me? My underbust is 27, and bust is 37. I wear a 28H or 30GG. I think I'm one band size smaller than you.
- Milotic Enell has its own calculator: https://enell.com/pages/find-your-fit (The bra size to Enell size chart assumes +4 sizing and is bullshit, but the actual chart for underbust to Enell size is fine.) IME as a 32DD, the size 1 was the right size for my ribcage but way too large for my boobs, and size 0 the right for my boobs but too tight around the ribcage. Based on your measurements, 0 should be the size to try.
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Bravissimo Niya vs Bravissimo Alexa

Bravissimo was my favorite brand in the past but I stopped wearing their bras when I changed size. I recently decided to scroll around to see what is there. The Niya and Alexa caught my attention, they look like they offer supportive cups with light padding, low gore and a good shape. To me they look the same apart from Alexas back straps situation. Has anyone tried one or both of these?
Which would you recommend, if at all? Are they true to size?

https://www.bravissimo.com/products/alexa-bra-ln553/#red-ln553red

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https://www.bravissimo.com/products/niya-lace-bra-lg274/#navy-lg274nvy

https://www.bravissimo.com/products/alexa-bra-ln553/#red-...

https://www.bravissimo.com/products/alexa-bra-ln553/#red-ln553red

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- it's worth a try, I think the back is kind of cool in the alexa. As long as it's not final sale, you could always return it.
- I'd love to try them! But they are so expensive even on sale almost 40£- I am out of the money on 2 Comexim bras that don't fit that I can't return and also have Ewa discount I need to use until February. So I think I wait with those...I 'd love to find them second hand.
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34D - Shock Absorber » Ultimate Run Bra Padded (S06S7)

Shock Absorber generally runs an entire band size tight. This bra is maybe the least tight of the ones I've tried (Multi Sports, the unpadded Ultimate Run Bra), so if you're between band sizes for Shock Absorber, go for the tighter one. The elastic band is really thick and soooo cozy!

The shape suits my close-set boobs (no evil gore), but doesn't glue them together. No problems with cleavage sweat.

Black colorway

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- Oh, I didn't know that they made the Ultimate Run Bra padded!
  
  thanks for the info!
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