S Porto 60L (& 60KK)

Every so often I’ll second guess my size and buy one in a size down just to make sure, and so with the sale pricing I went ahead and got this one in both 60KK and 60L. All the data is worth it, right? ☺Besides, I do love getting the same bra in dual sizes at the same time to compare the differences better.

S Porto is a padded balcony bra, with light foam lined cups and removable cookies in pockets. In this size range there are 4 parts to the cup, 3 lower sections with two vertical seams, and an upper horizontal section. The color is a beautiful wine purplish-red with black accents. The lower part of the cups has a lovely satiny flower/leaf pattern while the top half is lace with a black satin ribbon between. The gore is lace and the wing matches the bottom of the cups. The band is a semi sheer tulle with a lot of stretch to it. Like with the BM, this one has a double diamond dangle on the gore.

All measurements are taken prior to trying the bra on to insure no figure is obscured by the body. I also take all flat measurements before taking the stretched cup then band measurements for the same reason.

The band measures 22.875”” and stretches to a max of 28.25” on the 60L and 23” to a max of 29.75” on the 60KK. Both bras have 3 hooks and 4 rows of eye loops. Since the band materials are the same, yet the stretch tension is different, I have come to the conclusion that the wires are different, with the 60L having a stronger wire that resists distortion better.

Cup Depth as measured by:
1 Hovering the cup between the knees, then placing the tape measure into the cups without any resistance.
This measurement is: 12.5” (60L) & 12.375” (60KK)

2 Placing the cup over the knee and stretching it similar to what a breast would, to the maximum resistance.
This measurement is: 14.55” (60L) & 14.5” (60KK)

I feel these two figures give you a general idea of the minimum and maximum depth that the cup can accommodate, just like the flat and stretched band measurements do with bands. Since Bratabase only has one cup field, I enter the larger of the two, as it’s this larger number that determines if a cup is going to fit me or not since I am on the max end of the cup scale, but do realize that some may need the lower number to determine fit for their needs, so I will always include both figures in the reviews for full disclosure.

The close up photo of the cups and gore shows that the ribbon that goes across the cup horizontally isn’t sewn on tight, so it allows for the cups to stretch a bit more than some of the ribbon lined cups, but not as much as the cups without a horizontal ribbon. If that ribbon was looser or removed, it would have more stretch, but isn’t bad as it is. This ribbon can be problematic for softer tissue and small cups, as it will result in the dreaded in-cup quadding.

To compare the two sizes, 60L is only ½” taller in the cup and seriously only 0.05” deeper, but the top of the cup is more open allowing for more room for the “up” squish without quadding. The cup width and wing are identical while the gore is slightly lower on the 60KK.


For comparison photos (depth projection and pads), see :
https://www.bratabase.com/compare/dlots/pictures/

For 60KK photos, see:
https://www.bratabase.com/bra/diwmt/

As for fit, the bands feel stretchy and not as supportive as they should even on the tightest setting. The cups on the 60L are fine and full, but the 60KK cuts in a bit too much, so the more open top of the 60L was a good thing. I would prefer a 6” wire for more projection and less E-W side pull, but the 6.25” typically don’t feel horrible on Ewa bras. As usual, I still feel like I get more of an East West look with the padded bras, and this one isn’t any different. Under a baggie sweatshirt it really doesn’t matter though, so the 60L is a keeper. ☺

I also ordered the matching panties, which has the same satiny pattern material in the front, and a sexy sheer bikini style back with the same dual diamond dangle on the backside. The 38(10) measures 66cm flat to 89cm stretched, though it is supposed to be for a 91-96cm hip range, so it runs small. I requested these in a 36(8) but didn’t correct Kaska when she wrote up the invoice as the 38 (10), and in this case, I am glad as a size down would most likely have felt less comfortable.

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Updated on Nov 11, 2018 Flag this

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  Hmm..there really doesn't seem to be of a difference between the cup wise..I wonder if as you go higher in the padded cups something about the foam affects the construction? I don't see how..but I know next to nothing about sewing. But I guess, this is where the open top comes in handy?
  

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  Frazzleberry IMO the S just gets taller and not very much deeper on each cup size increase. It seems like KK+ cup that you get two vertical seams instead of one, which is nice.

• Sovavosi oooh kk, I wonder why this happens though :/

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  The colour look great on you!

• Frazzleberry I think Ewa has this idea that more projection should be directly under the chin instead of out front. ;-)
  Seriously though, the larger the cups vs band Ewa gets worried about the bottom of the cups being able to handle the horizontal weight of the breasts if there's too much projection, so she goes up instead of out. The foam is easy to crease and without reinforcement, any more projection in this band size would easily result in cup failure. :-\

  @Brasaremean thank you!

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  Ooh, I see.

  And yes brasaremean this is good colour on MamaPagan ^_^

• Thank you Frazzleberry :-)

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  I agree, this is a beautiful bra and stunning color on you!

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  Thank you veggiechic : -)

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  OMG that color! too bad i've given up on the S. it just slides down as soon as I put it on.

• dbmamaz It's available in a BM as well ( https://www.bratabase.com/bra/diwmv/ ), so maybe you could get it as a custom FB?

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  I think she grades weird instead of adjusting the design when she makes these in this size range. There is still EM style depth and projection I guess but it looks like it's out on the side, as opposed where a 60L boob would need it. Notice how the apex of the cups is way further out than the wearer's--the cups are positioned and made in such a way that it is bound to create an east-west orientation, which a very heavy boob can only partly adapt to as you point out, because gravity and shape mean they want to fall to the center-- not fly out to the sides like winged monkeys! I think to really customize this to a very small back and very ample bust, the cup shape would need real rethinking, apex moved up and in, diagonal seam position adjusted, and at least one seam would have to be added on the inner lower quadrant of the cups to round out that portion of the cup and allow for the breasts to sit more centered on the body as they will inevitably want to do in this size range.

• Quite true wendybien. If she opted for the 6" wires like she uses in most of her bras in this size range, I feel it would help as well. That would put a bit more depth out front and confine them better instead of encouraging the breasts to part ways, haha.

  I now have a sudden desire to watch Wizard of Oz ......! :-)

• Oh yes absolutely, the whole "EM is awesome with their narrow wires" selling-point is not very well-represented by her work in this range, these wires end quite far back, considering.

• Beautiful colour and style. Are you high or low tide in the pictures? I think that the 60L is a better fit than 60KK, but if you're high tide then maybe it's going to be a bit better fit in low tide? Which one do you like better...the S or BM style?

• if i didnt have 6 well-fitting bras i really might consider asking for that in an FB. but at this point i dont even want more bras in my drawer
  

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  Calluna I am at low tide, first day of my period when I took all the photos which is typically my lowest "bust" day for the month. The 60L should work for most days aside from highest tide day(s), and the 60KK shall be a "just in case I lose breast mass" back up bra & tucked away with the 60K BMs I tried earlier this year, so a valued part of my bra arsenal all the same. :-)

  I prefer the BM over the S style hands down. I like the way they look on my body far better and the BM is all over comfortable to me. As Sovavosi stated a while back, S style puts the breasts on lockdown so they feel more secure but definitely make me look wider and I feel my boobs against my arms all day, making me hyper aware of them, while I don't get that feeling in the BM. (The PL style is the same as S, while SF is like BM to me.)

  I do like the look of the S style bra in this pattern as the bottom of the cup is so beautiful.

  I just need to stop trying the padded versions, but they are so pretty, I just can't help myself!!

  @dbmamaz With the new sale today, you know you are tempted to buy though!! Great prices.....how can you resist? ;-)

  @wendybien True, but Ewa 6.25" is still a whole lot better than the Panache 7" in this range. Honestly Ewa 6.25" feels a 1000x better than Comexim 6.25" which are a disaster on me. I know it's a domino effect in which the cup design is a major catalyst to failure, but I cannot figure out how to get Comexim to work regardless.

• Calluna I am at low tide, first day of my period when I took all the photos which is typically my lowest "bust" day for the month. The 60L should work for most days aside from highest tide day(s), and the 60KK shall be a "just in case I lose breast mass" back up bra & tucked away with the 60K BMs I tried earlier this year, so a valued part of my bra arsenal all the same. :-)

  I prefer the BM over the S style hands down. I like the way they look on my body far better and the BM is all over comfortable to me. As Sovavosi stated a while back, S style puts the breasts on lockdown so they feel more secure but definitely make me look wider and I feel my boobs against my arms all day, making me hyper aware of them, while I don't get that feeling in the BM. (The PL style is the same as S, while SF is like BM to me.)

  I do like the look of the S style bra in this pattern as the bottom of the cup is so beautiful.

  I just need to stop trying the padded versions, but they are so pretty, I just can't help myself!!

  @dbmamaz With the new sale today, you know you are tempted to buy though!! Great prices.....how can you resist? ;-)

  @wendybien True, but Ewa 6.25" is still a whole lot better than the Panache 7" in this range. Honestly Ewa 6.25" feels a 1000x better than Comexim 6.25" which are a disaster on me. I know it's a domino effect in which the cup design is a major catalyst to failure, but I cannot figure out how to get Comexim to work regardless.

• MamaPagan I find it hard to resist padded bras as well cause they are so gorgeous, but knowing how they fit me it's easier.

• brasaremean I think I will resist the PL Zenith new release, but it is tempting. I will have to get the SFs & BM though! When the unpadded choices are plentiful it makes it easier as well. :-D

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  MamaPagan oh yes I have seen only fails from Comexim in this size range unfortunately. I think they genuinely don't understand the physics involved somehow--it's weird. What I don't get about EM is that I'm pretty sure she DOES know how this ought to be tweaked to make it work, so... why doesn't she do it? Is it because the customs would cost even more due to the extra grading and new patterns needed? I think she has a bee in her bonnet about people ordering ultra small bands and therefore has a mental block about working as seriously on adapting those designs for optimal support the way she does for large band/large cup for example.

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  You are so right with that one wendybien! Yet, if neither have a small rib big busted woman in front of them, it would be more difficult to envision let alone create. The closest would be Gosia (for Ewa) but her current size is 65HH which is a bit smaller that this. Honestly she often looks to be in the wrong size as well, but that is a whole conversation in itself.

  With replies to my inquiries and orders I can gather that this size isn't that common and Ewa's general idea is if someone orders it, they are trying to force themselves into a smaller band/larger cup for vanity purposes. The smug replies did disappear after I sent bra on photos at each angle (including back) for both padded and unlined styles though.

  Also I was told today that the "no" to certain style or model in the range is due to the seamstresses saying no, not Ewa. If they don't feel it will work, it won't be done. Yet as my wise and beautiful friend Sovavosi told me, you wouldn't want them doing something they feel incapable of doing correctly, and that is 100% true. :-)

  The SF and BM styles are done beautifully in my range so I really can't complain! Seriously, they are spectacular, especially in comparison to the UK options.

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  After reading and thinking about seaming, I think one of the reasons why very large bust bras have vertical seams farther from center is because of the problem of center tissue. The gore divides the breasts into two and there is only so much room horizontally to place the breast if you are narrow rooted. The only way to work around the gore is to literally have the cup come into the center around the gore, like this: )(

  At least that’s the way it is with me. When I lift my breasts they look like this: ( )( ) so I assume that for that tissue to really be held at a natural position the cup would have to be sewn to allow for this.

  Maybe this is just me because of my omega shape but I do know that a lack of stability in my bras is mostly due to a lack of center room, and that almost none of my bras have the s center room allowance. Unless a bra is very plunging (more so than any bra on the market in my size), I’m going to have to deal with this lack of center space. I wonder if there are any really large cup bra makers that deal with this problem well?

  Sorry, totally off topic, but I’ve been thinking about it a lot so wendybien’s comments made me muse.

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  You are spot on in your experience and theory cupandahalf. My breasts do the exact same thing when I support them with my hands, so it's not just an omega shape issue.

  Some day we all just need to take a Poland road trip and offer our breasts to Ewa (& Comexim) for templates and scaling assistance. When we win the lotto, it is so planned!! Passports and plane tickets all around! :-D

  Can you imagine how dangerous a Bratabase bra company could be? With the consolidated mind power we have here, no other brand would stand a chance. LeProfessor can work on implementing this plan :-)

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