What to say.
This bra technically fits. I get some slight quadding on my larger side, so that is the only visible issue AND I'm at my largest right now so you know, any other day it might not happen.
That being said, I find, just like my other 65GGs that it's just too shallow at the wire.

EM calculator (which I've learned overestimates my size by a ton) actually puts me at 70H/65HH (depending on the day). So there might be some truth to it that maybe I do need a 65H (definitely not 70GG) *although* I'm off the pill now (hurray!) so I think maybe over the next couple of months I will see some changes to my body and a 65GG will fit fine. However, boobs don't get unprojected (at least in my experience) so we will see how this whole thing plays out.

Anyyyyyyhooooow, BM Rubin is my favourite BM, looks wise, I just find it extremely elegant and I love love love the stretch tulle.

BM Rubin has standard BM cups, but I do find that in both sizes I have it's not as projected as my other ones at the wire. The lining is a little more rigid than some of my other BMs as well. Again, this bra is not a sister size to 70G. It feels smaller.
The wires feel like they might be too narrow, like I have some side spillage on my larger side? The wires are the same as my 70G though, like wire to wire comparison is exact same, just the 70Gs are deeper, so my guess is the wire width is fine, it's just there's no room in the cup.
So that's why I think it's not a sister size to 70G because this has been the pattern with all my 65GGs. In general when sister sizing down, this has been my experience.

The band on this feels tight but not uncomfortable. I think it measures a perfect 65.

Overall, I guess we'll just have to wait this weaning period off now and see what happens then. I hate that there seems to be a promo sale coming up cause I'm genuinely unsure if I should order anything--my wallet has taken about a grand plus hit thanks to EM and now I don't even know which size to order and wouldn't wanna just guess and hope for the best. On top of that 65Hs seem to be a custom size, so either way I'd pay more for it, sale or not.

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  See, I absolutely feel you on the wires being too shallow. I think that was my issue with mine too, although I decided to keep my 65J (haha) because I liked how it felt against my skin, even with the quadding. The band was fabulous too.

  I also get what you mean about not wanting to drop more money on EM due to sizing inconsistencies as I'm kind of in the same boat. I was telling MamaPagan the same thing. She's being saying the same thing too. It takes one rogue seamstress to mess it up for everyone. On top of custom ordering sizes that you can't even send back, it's tough to WANT to try again.

  Anywayyyy, I think it looks quite lovely on you. I see the slight quadding, but maybe, as you say, it'll correct itself a little after you're off your high tide.

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  IMO, my BMs feel more shallow to me when they are too small, then they start to slide. I've had this experience each time I've changed BM sizes. But I generally ignore this until the band starts getting too tight, where it used to fit before.

  I also feel like EM's gradations between cups is not that consistent. You could be in between sizes too. :|

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  Yes it just feels like a massive waste of money when I have a drawer full of bras that don't fit. None of my 70FFs works anymore... my 70Gs are perfect in the cup these days but the band rides up like crazy. 65GGs all but one too small in the cup.
  For a thousand dollars I feel like that's a weak haul tbh... Sure, it's quality, but what good is quality when I'm uncomfortable? At this point I feel like if I spent half this money, on Freya or CK or whatever bras I'd be in the same boat as I am right now.

  The inconsistencies are what's really bothering me, though. And the sister sizing as well, even with slight differences in cup volume a 65GG and 70G should be sister sizes, so close enough cups that I can't tell such a massive difference. These all feel a cup too small!

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  Btw I know I sound frustrated but I'm really not. Just kind of... eh, you know?

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  DerangedDragons19 and Sovavosi covered it well, so no need to repeat it all, haha.
  Ewa is our new Goldilocks syndrome. We are all looking for that "just right" bra...... But it's still better than the Nazeli experience though, right? ;-)

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  Sovavosi Yep. I definitely think they're more shallow in general. My SF's, SM's and S shapes always felt deeper, but that could have been because they fit better at the time. I'll have to make a note of it whenever mine decide to show up in the mail, with pictures of course :)

  I feel like you could be in between sizes too. And that's a whole other can of worms.

  @brasaremean Right?! Quality minus the consistency is just as bad as buying the Freya and CK bras. It's nuts.

  Can you order from somewhere that allows returns? Sorry, I'll be honest and say I'm not familiar with the flag you have next to your username, but I'm assuming it's somewhere in Europe. Have you looked at Super Bra Store? I *think* they're based in the Netherlands. Maybe you could find a 65H from there and give it a go?

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  Heh I'll say, Nazeli could work on their sizing a little bit more tbh.

• DerangedDragons19 Super Bra Store won't deliver to me (I'm in Bosnia btw)

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  brasaremean Oh boo. Lame. Rats. :( Sorry!
  And thanks for educating me. I appreciate it :) I would never have guessed Bosnia!

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  MamaPagan Your Nazeli bras made me feel... Uncomfortable hahahahha. Huge fit disasters 🤣

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  I understand the frustration *hugs*

  I see what you're saying about the quadding, hopefully at low tide you won't have that issue and it will fit wonderfully

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  MamaPagan the Nazeli bras were certainly an experience to say the least.

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  brasaremean If I told you how much I have spent on bras in the last two years, it would make you feel a lot better about spending 1k believe me..... And my amount of well fitting bras pales in comparison to what I've purchased. I feel your pain. :-/

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  The universe also likes to throw curve balls. When you do buy a bunch of bras, you get bigger. 😑

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  I can't even imagine to be quite honest with you. Now I'm thinking just when enough is enough?

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  No other article of clothing seems to be so particular with sizing, I guess it's just part of having boobs.

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  Unfortunately as long as we have boobs, there will never be an "enough." As Sovavosi said, when we get close to our golden number, they change and we must start over. We must have bras, otherwise we have pain. Yet if all our bra attempts also cause pain, it is beyond frustrating. Yet we can't just give up and go braless. Vicious conundrum is what it is. 😖

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  It's incredibly frustrating!

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  It really is!

• Is that the new bra pics shirt?

• brasaremean maybe you should see if you can get your 70Gs taken in by a seamstress? It seems a shame that they are just sitting in your closet when they are your best fitting cup.

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  Calluna yes. super clingy shows every seam haha

  @wilderness1 I do wear them still on the tightest hook but yeah I fear for their lifespan.

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  Sovavosi I get the sliding down in BMs also when the cup is too small. And, it doesn't take much. BM Fluo 65FF seemed to fit, but after an hour it was falling down. BM Antonina, in the same 65FF, has a smidge more space and stays put, but threatens. BM Bibi Blanca in 65G stays put all day. God bless that bra.

  @DerangedDragons19 my SFs feel the deepest too. They're like softball pockets. Even with the characteristic wrinkling at the wire, my SF Maryna is my favourite bra. I'm really hoping the new cupcakes one will fit the same.

  BTW, brasaremean EM calculator puts me at 75D which is, obviously, not even close. A 75 band would be down around my waist in 2 seconds flat. It wouldn't even get a shot at riding up my back. Bwa ha ha ha ha.

  Her size chart though, is a perfect match (if I ignore her band suggestion). If I simply choose the band that I know fits (65) and go over to find my 94cm overbust, I'm at 65FF. Then she says if you're boobs are like "oo" then to maybe size up. That gets me 65G, which is perfect in BM, SF and CHP.

  This bra is gorgeous on you. Fingers crossed for some boobs shrinkage.

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  AprilGoulding Her calculator puts me in a 65HH. I have some 60Js. Can we say not tacking and cutting in? 🙃 Clearly both of those are caused by the band being too small!

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  AprilGoulding Funny how that works for you as well, whereas it seemed to be the opposite the smaller the band got haha. Just look at MamaPagan and her SF depths. Meh. Inconsistencies really put a damper on things. Anywho. I enjoy the SF. Hopefully when mine shows up it fits as beautifully as I remember 😍

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  My Sf experience got extremely soured by Blueberry, I don't dare order another.

  @aprilgoulding I'm extremely soft and pendulous her calculator (and the table too) overestimates my size by about a cup or two. For the band it seems to calculate it close enough now, it used to put me at 80 but I've learned her 'tight' measurement is 'breathe out, and make the tape cut in supertight'
  With that I get 65-70 depending on the time of the month. I also played a bit with the calculator and learned other underbust measurement doesn't even matter, the only one that changes anything is the top one.

• Blueberry is not really like the others though. Most SFs are softer. Ewa's calculator is still adding +4. You have to have under 25" in order to be put into a 60 band. 😡

• DerangedDragons19 & brasaremean Yeah, the depth varies greatly for both the SF and the BMs within the same size. It is very frustrating and if it wasn't for the stretch lace they all would be deal breakers for sure. SF Blueberry, BM Sofia....grrrrr

  @AprilGoulding I go by the chart not the calculator as well and it is spot on too, also factoring in the OO advice.

  @Sovavosi Her calculator and chart don't factor in the manufacturing inconsistencies or rouge seamstresses.

• I know, unlucky it should be the first one I ordered :( pretty as it is it definitely runs a cup too small.

• I agree. The 60L was better though- Not as tense on top as the 60KK. I would love to get it in a 60LL but it is sold out now. :-(

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  MamaPagan It's the same lace as Kleks though, so hopefully it will come back because it has that bestseller mark on it.

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  MamaPagan I just realized you meant Sofia, not Blueberry. I don't think Ewa likes purple either!

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  I would seriously contemplate ordering this one, but hearing that it runs small and my experience with that stretch tulle that's underneath makes it a no-go for me. It is a gorgeous bra though.

  MamaPagan but purple is such a nice colour :'(

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  Sovavosi I meant the Black Tulle under the blue lace on Blueberry is less tense in the 60L than the 60KK, but we know both are smaller in the cup than the other SFs. :-( Sofia I would love to have in a 60L but it was gone too quickly......

  @Frazzleberry I agree. I love all things purple!!!

• sorry wrong tag I meant Sovavosi lol

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  aaaah you;ve replied..(I took too long to edit)... so sorry if my response just now sounded rude/mean/off, I mistook Sovavosi's response about the purple, for your response, so I was just clarifying that...Sorry for that

  (texting/typing can get confusing)

  but yes purple is great colour :)

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  No worries Frazzleberry and it didn't sound rude or off at all. I just took it that you wanted it too because purple is awesome but also missed the opportunity. :-D

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