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Bras » Betsey Johnson Intimates » Forever Perfect Demi Bra (723800) » 30DD 30:5

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Fits ribcage73.1
B. perimeter21.3
Stretched Band77.5
Band Length58.2
Cup width13.1
Cup depth19.0
Wire length21.5
Cup height14.5
Cup separation2.4
Gore height2.8
Wing height8.8
Strap width1.1
Hooks2

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    Didn't fit

    I thought that sizing up would make things better. They didn't. This bra is still very shallow and cuts into my tall roots. If you're very shallow, don't have much immediate projection, and have short roots, this may be for you.

    Sonic White colorway

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    Fits

    Pretty basic plunge t-shirt bra; works alright with the slope of my tallish roots where the tissue thins out on top.

    All of the materials are soft.

    Doubt I will ever need to use it but I do like that has a j-hook on the back straps if I ever needed it to be racerback.

    Band is really nice and firm.

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    Didn't fit

    I wore this bra back in the day in 30C, but of course this size was always too small for me. At one point though, I considered Betsey Johnson bras in 30C to be my best fitting bras. Now that I've discovered my proper size and seen my cup size increase and become less shallow, this bra no longer works for me. This particular style from Betsey is extremely shallow, more so than the other styles I wore regularly (the Starlet and other lace cups are better).

    I've tried this more recently in both 30D and 30DD, and while the wires and cup shape are better ... for me in 30DD than 30D, it's still way too shallow. I am busting out of the middle of this bra while the shallow cups cut in and minimize me. Not a good look! I think this is a great option for people who are truly shallow, but not for average or projected shapes.

    I've also found that when the cup shape is a mismatch, it can cause discomfort in the wires. The wires on this bra dig in for me and feel like they are rolling upward and into my body. This happens to me often with bras that are too shallow. Haven't quite figured out a technical explanation for this, but unfortunately it made the bra really uncomfortable.

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    Didn't fit

    Cups are much too shallow for me. Very soft and smooth fabric though.

    Updated on Apr 28, 2018 Flag this


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    Didn't fit

    First off let me say that I was a girl who thought her one true size was 34B for like... ever. I never went and bothered getting professionally fitted until later in life and have since been sized correctly and now LOVE bras. Anywho, now that I know I’m a 30DD/DDD, bras are way more comfortable and fun! This bra is a great find for those with shallow breasts with a lot of tissue, like mine! It’s a lovely everyday bra that doesn’t make me want to take it off first thing after work!

    Updated on Feb 05, 2018 Flag this


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    • Please don't forget to measure the bra! It's so awesome to have some one join new on their bra journey! Also from the looks of it, it looks like this bra is too shallow for you. The under wires aren't sitting in your IMF (wires pushed directly under breast), I think if you were to do this you would find the cup collapsing under your boobs & gaping at the top. Molded cup bras do this on 90% of women even if the cups are too small.

    • LeProfessor No gaping at the top, so what would you suggest? Should I go up a cup or try a different bra entirely? Thanks

    • No I'm not saying you have gaping, lol. I'm saying if you were to put the bra on and make sure the wires were in your IMF, then it is likely that you would have gaping. I'm not sure if you can see it in the picture like i can, but I can clearly see a pretty large space between the bottom of your breast and the under wire of the bra. Which is a big sign that says the bra is too shallow for you. There are a variety of different levels of shallow breasts and projected breasts and I thoroughly recommend reading all the stuff on the sub-Reddit; ABraThatFits. They do an excellent job describing different breast shapes, roots, and projected/shallow breasts. If the bra is comfortable, wear it until you find bras more suited to your shape. Your IMF is the spot directly under your breast where the breast tissue stops and the ribcage starts, that's where the under wire should be. I found that in the beginning of my journey I was wearing bras far too low on my torso and that really mucks up the fit of a bra. Hope that was a bit more helpful and clearer than my last message. I often forget not everyone knows everything about bras!

    • LeProfessor Interesting, it must just be the picture because that isn’t the case with the cups at all in reality. Thanks for offering some advice though!

    • LeProfessor So, I tried the bra on again and you’re right, though the cups sit directly under my breasts, I don’t fill out the entire bottom. What do you suggest for fit?

    • Honestly, molded cup bras are just really difficult to fit. Your breasts either have to be the exact shape of the bra or they need to be just soft enough to allow the bra to mold them to the shape of the bra. This is not a BAD fit for a molded cup bra, I just know that their is better fitting bras! I recommend looking for bras that are non-padded to help you better figure out the shape that is best for you. From looking here it looks like you need a bra that is on the shallow side (but not SUPER shallow like this bra) with and open top to accommodate your tall roots. If you like padded bras it's best to stick with the cut-n-sew variety as they're not outrageously shallow like the molded cup bras. I'd like to point you towards Tutti Rouge (if you pick the Nicole bra, pick and entire size smaller than normal). They're known for being good for wide rooted and shallow individuals. Trying these bras will help you get a better understanding of your shape, if your wide rooted, FOB, FOT, inner/outer fullness, centre fullness. So on and so forth. It'll also help us help you pick out better bras! Also, make sure you always do the scoop-n-Swoop while leaning over when you put on your bra. This will help get all your tissue into the cups. It's really hard to tell what your shape is through a padded/molded cup bra. I don't believe changing your size will make this bra fit your shape better. I thought i was very wide and shallow at the beginning of my bra journey, but after trying MANY bras, I have found i am the complete opposite! I could take you measurements and find bras you could buy from other users on here or to find other bras that match your measurements if you'd like, but they may not necessarily match your shape as I don't have a very good idea of what your shape is. I just know you have tall roots and that you may be somewhat shallow and wide set.

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    Hasn't set fit

    Pros: This bra is simple and classic, with a pretty gold rose charm in the center. The cups are smooth and disappear well under a tee. The straps are comfortable, and have a clip for a racerback option, although they're hard to adjust.

    Cons: The band "creaks" when you move, probably something to do with the elastic, which is firmer than other bras I have owned. This bra in particular was the wrong size for me, although I did purchase another in a 30D, which still has some fit issues because of shape incompatibility.

    Naked colorway

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    Didn't fit

    currently my only kind of fitting bra. i used to wear the 30D, but either i've improved my swoop and scoop skills, my boobs have grown, or both, because the 30D now makes me quadboob. so i decided to buy the 30DD...

    and it still quadboobs? it turns out that there is a shape issue. the forever perfect is designed for outer fullness, not for inner full people. the east-west shape is nowhere near as prominent as the shape of the betsey johnson's stocking stripe, but it's still kind of there in this forever perfect. i have more inner fullness and the cup cuts in slightly. that said, this ... bra stretches and distorts as i wear it daily, so the quadboob eventually becomes a non-issue. so quality wise this cannot compare to other brands like panache and freya.

    another thing, the wings come up higher and show a little more when i wear sleeveless tops with huge armholes.

    the most important thing about this bra is that it's wide enough for me. it used to feel a little narrow when it was new, but as said before, i've worn the bra so much that nowadays i put this bra on the tightest hooks and the cup width stretches from 5.5 inches to 6 inches.

    it's not holy grail, perfect, highest quality, but it's good enough, and it's so cheap on ebay. a win win if you ask me.

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  8. 0
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    Didn't fit

    Really soft fabric, but it's too small for me. Has a J-hook to convert it to racerback.

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    Updated on Aug 13, 2016 Flag this


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    Didn't fit

    This is a very nice T Shirt bra, and is actually quite comfortable, but it cuts into the tops of my boobs, which is pretty unflattering.

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    Updated on May 31, 2016 Flag this


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    Didn't fit

    As much as I wanted to like this bra, it was way too shallow for me, which made it rather painful to wear. That being said, it does seem nice and soft. Take my "poor" comfort rating with a grain of salt if you are shallow, because my discomfort was very much caused by poor fit.

    Go Wild colorway

    Updated on Aug 20, 2015 Flag this


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