Dessous Mesh Underwire Bra (CD2000)

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28				28D 28:4 14 bras	28DD 28:5 10 bras	28E 28:6 20 bras	28F 28:7 14 bras	28FF 28:8 12 bras	28G 28:9 21 bras
30	30A 30:1 2 bras	30B 30:2 3 bras	30C 30:3 4 bras	30D 30:4 8 bras	30DD 30:5 13 bras	30E 30:6 34 bras	30F 30:7 36 bras	30FF 30:8 41 bras	30G 30:9 36 bras
32	32A 32:1 2 bras	32B 32:2 0 bras	32C 32:3 0 bras	32D 32:4 2 bras	32DD 32:5 2 bras	32E 32:6 11 bras	32F 32:7 5 bras	32FF 32:8 10 bras	32G 32:9 19 bras
34	34A 34:1 0 bras	34B 34:2 0 bras	34C 34:3 0 bras	34D 34:4 0 bras	34DD 34:5 1 bra	34E 34:6 8 bras	34F 34:7 3 bras	34FF 34:8 7 bras	34G 34:9 10 bras
36		36B 36:2 0 bras	36C 36:3 0 bras	36D 36:4 0 bras	36DD 36:5 2 bras	36E 36:6 1 bra	36F 36:7 4 bras	36FF 36:8 1 bra	36G 36:9 7 bras
38		38B 38:2 0 bras	38C 38:3 0 bras	38D 38:4 1 bra	38DD 38:5 0 bras	38E 38:6 2 bras	38F 38:7 2 bras	38FF 38:8 2 bras	38G 38:9 1 bra

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30G

Used to fit

When I first bought this bra, I had mixed feelings about it. The number one seller for me was the colour; I loved the neon green and the contrast with the black. Overall there are a few issues with the bra, and if I did not love the colour so much I would have returned it. As far as sizing, I did not find it true to size. I normally wear a 30G/30GG. On this bra I found the band runs big and the cups run small.

Pros:
- the straps are fully adjustable which is great for us short gals or ones with short torsos
- the vibrant colours are ... unique and eye catching for sure
- the bra itself is very comfortable, and the wires do not poke
- it provides adequate support and in the perfect size would most likely be very supportive
- the V neckline is convenient for low cut shirts
- from the side it gives an almost round shape but with a sort of minimizing effect as you can see in the picture

Cons:
- the size range is limited, with the smallest band being 30 and the largest cup being G; ideally this bra would have suited me better at 28GG, but Claudette doesn't make it in that size
- the band is quite stretchy; I could comfortably fasten it on the middle hook straight away, however even on the loosest hook it was not loose enough to cause it to ride up (my waist is narrower than my rib cage which sometimes caused the bra to slip down when it is too loose)
- I think women who are full on top will definitely need to size up in the cup as the trim on the cup does cut into the breast; it's not an issue for me because I am bottom heavy and have soft breasts
- the sheer fabric showed every wrinkle on my breast because I have very soft breast tissue, so that took away from the attractiveness of the bra, but did not show through clothes
- there are slight gaps where the strap meets the cup and I suspect it's due to the fact that I am not very full on top, but it wasn't enough to detract from the overall look of the bra

One important thing to note about this bra is that it does not give the same shape as seen on the models who wear it in the small size. In smaller cups it looks more like a balconette. However, in larger cup sizes, it has an almost V neck line, or more of a vintage look to it and lifts the breasts higher while at the same time pushing them a bit to the side. In order for it to look good, I had to play around with the straps a fair bit and shorten them almost all the way. If you do not like that look then this might bother you, especially in the larger cup size.

I kept the bra because I love the colour and because of the odd vintage style shape it gave me. It's the only bra in my collection in bright neon green so it was worth keeping, especially because it was quite comfortable too. I also kept it because during a certain time of the month, I typically need to go up a size, so the stretchy band will come in handy.
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28E

Didn't fit

Disclaimer:mostly huge rant. Would not recommend this bra to anyone unless you love to have your heart broken and feel full of regret and disappointment.

What can I say? I did it again. This model is a mess.
Extensive/comparative review of my (2-3) Dessous bras coming up tonight as long as weather stays nice enough for me to get some decent/accurate photos.

My 30E was too FoT, 30DD is a 34C and wrinkles at the gore, and this one perfectly encloses my inner and outer tissue, and is a true 28 band, but makes me quad like nothing I've ever tried. I am on my period, but I tried a ... bunch of other bras on and nothing fits me this way. The quad is reeeeally bad. I unscooped a little for the photos, and it was still bad. I mean, almost entire boob out of bra, bad. Wtf? Sister size up a band(erm 6") and I don't have this problem.

On a side note, there is bottom wrinkling in the photos, which I suspect is just from extending my arms to take pictures or not adjusting.
It wasn't wrinkling at all before.

I just wish this had worked. My 30DD cups were fine, and the original owner said this one had a TTS band, so I thought, "score! Finally found one that will work!"

Ugh.
And the sandy beige is the perfect nude color for me.
Claudette, why you no work???!?

Well, but I said this was the last colorway I'd try. There is a new one that is a similar beige with a pink I believe that I really liked, but no way in a million years am I ever dropping $60 on one of these bras.
If I find it for $5, maybe. At this rate that is around all I am willing to ever drop for one of these again. Simply because it's always a mystery and I may or may not get one worth more than that.

Firstly, the elastic on this one is a lot better than my "30DD", which is great, but then I have other fit issues.
But then the elastic on the mauve 30DD is so cheap, it actually reminds me of the broken elastic on a pair of underwear I purchased when I was about 12(about half my life ago) at the $1 store. No exaggeration, it is literally that cheap.
My mom has a tendency to hang on to clothes that I put in donate and throw away bags, I found that pair of undies, and the elastic was all stretched out, had no stretch left, falling apart. That was my immediate thought when I even just picked the 30DD out of the bag. I knew just holding it that something was wrong with the band.

No bra new from a manufacturer should ever feel that way. Especially something that is so expensive at original retail price.
If I had to guess how much these bras were brand new, I would place the mauve at around $5-10. Which I believe it dropped down to on sale, thankfully.
I would place the 28E and 30E at around $20-35.

Also just the general inconsistencies..would not ever recommend anyone paying the highest retail price for this, or anything over $15-20, unless you don't care about band stretchiness or possible cup inconsistencies as well. I feel like the Dessous is like Mystery Gum, and I hate that just as much.
It always looks good, but ends up awful.
Dessous is Mystery Gum.

It's going to take a lot for me to stay away from a 28F in this colorway because the sandy beige perfectly matches my skintone, and I love the navy; I love the look of the Dessous, as always. But I hate imagining ever spending another dime on one of these bras.
If I do find this in 28F, around $10, I might just to see just how inconsistent they are (for science, really), but I hate even imagining it. This model has been full of disappointment. I would probably end up with a 32 band that is too FoT in 28F. But that just doesn't make sense. It doesn't even make sense why a sister size doesn't have the same cup depth or shape or why, for instance, someone owning the same new colorway may not have the same band stretch as someone else, as I've now experienced with this one being TTS (a good thing) and the mauve being crazy stretchy while I've seen others TTS.
Ugh this bra.
It's like a good looking guy, full of promise but can't follow through on anything. Don't break your heart. Don't break your wallet. Don't break your boobs. Don't buy a Dessous.
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  My sincere condolances. You are not alone in this - I feel the same. None fit me so far. What's even worse, I still keep looking...
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  erispe The Dessous struggle. I will probably keep looking too. >_<
  Or at least to swap this out for 28F in the same color.
  It's just such a pretty bra. And would be so nice for summer.
  
  Makes me want to make my own bras even more. If I was better with my sewing machine, I would totally try for this design in a better fit.
- arent there a coupla ewa michalaks that look a lot like that?
- dbmamaz I'm not sure, but that would make me a happy lady if there are :)
  The Mgiełka kind of reminded me of a black Dessous. I meant to order one from them last year but missed out.
  
  I'm more a fan of the SM than 3D which would fit me, but comparatively, I'd assume the 3D would fit me a lot better than the Dessous has.
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  Ladies Queequeg0925 and erispe I too have had my heart broken by this serial offender. I did contact Claudette a couple of years ago when I ordered 2 older colourways in the same size as each other and they were RIDICULOUSLY different, and I sent them a big ranty email with photos and measurements explaining how frustrating it is to find bras that fit and that this difficulty shouldn't extend to WITHIN one style....and Bok emailed me back and offered to replace the item I'd bought (it was from Brand Alley, a site with no returns) which she did for free. So maybe drop them an email with your frustrations? I was very pleased with how responsive they were. I know it's still a pain in the arse but I've written off Dessous and probably Claudette as a brand now as their inconsistencies are not just within Dessous. Maybe I should take my own advice and email again to moan about the EPIC fail I had with Bardot/Odette...bah. Oh no, the rant is contagious, haha! :-O
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  Ladies Queequeg0925 and erispe I too have had my heart broken by this serial offender. I did contact Claudette a couple of years ago when I ordered 2 older colourways in the same size as each other and they were RIDICULOUSLY different, and I sent them a big ranty email with photos and measurements explaining how frustrating it is to find bras that fit and that this difficulty shouldn't extend to WITHIN one style....and Bok emailed me back and offered to replace the item I'd bought (it was from Brand Alley, a site with no returns) which she did for free. So maybe drop them an email with your frustrations? I was very pleased with how responsive they were. I know it's still a pain in the arse but I've written off Dessous and probably Claudette as a brand now as their inconsistencies are not just within Dessous. Maybe I should take my own advice and email again to moan about the EPIC fail I had with Bardot/Odette...bah. Oh no, the rant is contagious, haha! :-O
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  Oh, yes, they are SMs which start at 30F, and the beige ones are both mostly sold out, there's only the pink one (with strappies)
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  I also dislike the dessous inconsistency but I've only experienced them in different color ways and not huge differences like that. This does make a great nude for you. This color way was too light for me. I prefer to order Claudette only when I can make returns or if it's not a large investment. I felt like this color way ran a little smaller in the cup than most others.
- emsiepie I'm sorry that you've had issues with these too :( Thanks for letting me know about emailing them.
  I think I will try that actually. I'm not sure if I'll have luck having sister sizes, but the fact remains that sister sizes should only be different in the band.
  :(
  
  I just took photos for my comparison review and oh my goodness, I am not crazy. I considered that I may be :p They really are so different. The 30DD measures 8"(maybe give a little) in depth, while 28E is about 7.5-7.7" in depth. I didn't take other measurements yet besides comparing the gores, but that was enough for me.
  
  The wires are also very different. At the center gores, the one goes down further before curving, which explains why I get wrinkling in one towards the center but not the other. They are simply different shapes. The beige is more rounded and is also more demi shaped, which doesn't work for me, while the mauve is a full cup as advertised. That and depth ecplains the quad.
  Didn't imagine I would get as much proof as I did. I suspected that my 30DD may not even fit, but tried it on again and then took measurements and yeah, it does.
  
  That is really sad, but good to know that their other models have just as many issues. I suspect they have a big quality control problem(actually noticed the brand tag on the mauve isn't even fully sewn on), which is pretty off-putting, again considering that anyone can get a Comexim or could have gotten an AP at much higher quality for about the same price that Claudette starts their bras at. It's just good that they have had a lot of these for $10-15, though atm they are back at $19.99.
  
  I am sorry to compare everything to Comexim, but I just feel they are a perfect company to be modeled after.
- *explains
- Are the two color ways from different seasons? I misunderstood originally. I thought you'd meant sister sizes in the same color
- dbmamaz Aw darn :( I think I know which ones you are talking about. I was considering the beige/black. That was one amazing looking bra *_*
  
  @revisa Thank you :) I agree. The cups are very different from the other two Dessous bras I've owned.
  This one seems a little less coverage, by measurements and everything. Wires seem to be more narrow also.
  
  I'm not sure whether they're from the same season or not, but they are two different colors(beige/navy and mauve/black).
  On their website it says the beige is from Spring/Summer 2013, but nothing on the mauve. It has them both listed as "CD2000" but admittedly I have no idea what that means xD
- I too am on a quest for a beigey Claudette Dessous. They're so pretty :( I was totally going to buy this on reddit, but you beat me to it. Looks like it wouldn't fit me either though!
  
  If you keep searching, I was surprised at how well the "orange soda" color worked as a nude for me. It was just too big.
- This is how I feel about the American Tan Dessous. It is THE perfect shade of nude for me. But it's so small. :(
- annabellynn Aw, I'm sorry =( I'm considering keeping an eye out for this color in 28F used so I can make sure I'm getting a true 28 or almost 28 band, but I'm not sure. The cup shape in general might just not work for me. Part of me thinks I should just stop trying haha.
  
  Do you think you'd be looking for about the same size then since this one wouldn't work for you either? I have really no life right now, so I can keep an eye out for you also =)
  
  Prettyncharmeuse Aw, yeah it really sucks =(
  Such pretty bras and perfect, rare colors, but the fit.. >_<
  I hope someday it will be easier to find sheer bras(well, and non-sheer even) in various skin-tones. And that someone else will make a Dessous-like bra. =(
- Queequeg0925 i think if you do find a 28f, you may have the issue of the wires being too wide, or the cup coming up too high on the sides.
- Queequeg0925 Sure! I'm eying a gorgeous 28E that is beige and hot pink. Knowing the brand it could be a totally different fit than this colorway .. cause of season and whatnot. At least that's what I'm telling myself, haha. The seller that had it left until June though. 28F would probably be best for me, realistically. Maybe if you find one and it doesn't work, I'll buy it from you!
- Prettyncharmeuse Yeah, those are some of the things I was concerned about =( The cups on the 30DD are just a smidge wider and I believe that's what causes wrinkling in the center. If they're any wider it may also be painful.
  
  annabellynn Ok ! =) And yeah! I'll let you know if I find one and it doesn't work out. I honestly don't think I will have much luck with these at this rate, but I am not sure that I won't be able to resist trying if I find one haha Good luck if you end up with the beige and pink!
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  Queequeg0925 thanks for this review. I think your ranting is completely justified. Most brands that aren't, say, at Prima Donna's price level have inconsistencies in fit, but what you've experienced with Claudette Dessous boggles the mind. The elastic quality is especially disappointing to hear about.
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  Fellow Claudette sufferer here! After seeing the Claudette fishnet bra reviews from bloggers, and ordered the beige and pink colourway from Herroom. When I got it, which was quite quickly, the fit was not really good.. The size was ok, but the wires were very pokey because the rest of the cup didn't really do anything for the lift. Ok, it doesn't fit, that's not too bad. The problem is that after trying it on for maybe 20 minutes..the seams that connect the straps went half undone, on both sides, and the seam from the wire channel as well (?!)! Now there's no way to send it back, especially with all the stories regarding Herroom and returns.. Sigh.. Much quality..
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  JulieCS thats really awful!
  
  My first was an American Tan / black (30F.) It fit well and lasted really well. I'd get a little in cup quadding as the day went on and couldn't wear it at the wrong time of the month but that had to do with my tissue instead of the bra. The second I had was a Seafoam / khaki. It was too shallow but fit for the 30 minutes it would stay in my imf. Then from here I got a 28G sandstone/navy. The cups were really too big so I didn't wear it much and the coloring was too light to be a nude for me too. And the band was loose but it was used and I don't know how used. I also have two paramours in 30F. The black fits beautifully and the garnet unfortunately is just a little too shallow. The black is .2" deeper. I tried a cool cotton the first season and I found the cups smaller and band bigger. I've also tried Bardot (fits in sister size of 32E) but it's too wide to be comfortably and the Sophia Icon (30FF) where I'd read about the shallow cups but sizing up one cup was not enough... But I'm on the cusp of being too big for 30fs in the others. I do find the cups more triangle shaped than they look on some of the models but I don't have a lot of firm upper fullness even though I have tall roots. Idk. I feel like Claudette hasn't been a bad brand at all but i think buying them somewhere like here is the best because you can get the actual measurements for each bra. I wish the dessous bra measurements on here could be broken into colors or seasons but I understand why they aren't.
  I'm not trying to minimize the issues people are bringing up here, but I'd hate for someone to write them off completely if it's a brand that could work for them because a lot of their bras are pretty cool and they've change the face of non matrix bras. Since they started I've seen a number of other companies start making similar looking bras. And the company is still a baby and hopefully working out the kinks.
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  revisa one of the things I think will help (in terms of putting the Dessous on Bratabase) would be for people to add what color any it is that they have. The option is there, but a lot of people don't use it.
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  I just wanted to add on that I totally understand your sadness at this bra. It seems like Claudette has quality control problems on the whole - with different color ways having entirely different fits and potentially different materials used altogether. The only Dessous that has been somewhat successful for me is that red/olive one I have listed, and even that, it really isn't that great: I realize that I just find the mesh they use scratchy/uncomfortable. I do think they'd benefit from better quality elastic.
  I feel your heartbreak. The Dessous has one of my favorite designs in the world - simple, clean, sophisticated - but the construction has made it basically unwearable. :'(
- learningaboutbras I know, I was so disappointed. Luckily the elastic in the sandstone/navy and black was better, but I've heard different from others.
  And yeah, I assume the original owner bought this on sale and I luckily bought my mauve on sale also. I'm just astonished with the original pricing. I got to thinking that perhaps they left their questionable ones for the sale bras, but I think that may be a bit of a risky thought and possibly overly optimistic. I haven't read through all the reviews, so I am really not sure. Just a thought that popped into my head.
  
  @JulieCS That is such a shame :( I was reading PetiteCollegiate's reviews on her Claudettes and saw that the one (don't remember about the others) had issues with the seams. And my mauve started pilling, which I find really odd. Most of my bras don't pill until I've had them past a year at least.
  
  @revisa I totally agree that buying their bras here is really the best decision. I didn't think to ask the person I bought my sandstone and navy from for the depth, since I assumed because the 30E was too big and the 30DD fit besides the band, that it'd fit.
  My mistake. Always always ask for the band, cup depth and width on these.
  I would also recommend always asking about where the seam lies and for cup height, as my sandstone and mauve are very different.
  I do also agree with you and Prettyncharmeuse that breaking these up into colors may be more helpful.
  Speaking of which I have to add the color for this!
  
  @kerniss It really is such a beautiful design. I'm sorry that you too have had problems with it :(
  I agree that it seems like they have some quality control issues. I'd really like to keep trying, but I think I'm going to wait for a few years before buying directly from them again and hopefully quality will be better.
  Also wanted to mention that the mesh on my 3 have been different as well! The black seemed the best quality, the mauve is very stiff and a little itchy, and the sandstone and navy is somewhere in between. I hope at the very least that they use the same materials for the same colorways, but I couldn't say myself.
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30FF

Fits

This review is for the neon pink/black colorway, which is one of the oldest (from 2012 I believe). I have heard that this bra has changed substantially since then, so keep that in mind with this review!

I got this bra from the Claudette encore sale (because $10!) and was not at all prepared to love it as much as I did! The 30FF ran TTS on me. I fill the cups well and actually like how tall they are--somehow they are stretchy enough to not cut in to my taller roots. It also gives me one of the best shapes I've ever gotten in an unlined bra--very round, ... but also somewhat natural, minimized, and relaxed. Since it is super sheer, frankly, it makes it look like I have just really beautiful boobs, haha. I have soft tissue and a slightly conical shape, so getting a shape that is both round and natural is hard to do!

The wires on this bra are narrow and U-shaped. I am average width and this was fine.

A note about consistency between bras, however. I ordered a 30FF and 30G in the exact same colorway, and in terms of the cup, the 30FF (my usual size) was the right one. 30G had wrinkling and empty space. However, on the 30FF the band is very stretchy (I got it to 33 inches). On the 30G, however, it was quite tight--I had to stretch as much as I could to get it just to 30! This makes me wonder if a) the 30FF had been tried on a lot, or returned, or something, and b) if this means that the mesh used in this bra stretches out SUPER quickly. The fabric on the 30FF was also very comfortable, whereas the 30G was really scratchy--again, making me wonder if the 30FF had gotten more use? I guess the good news is that it seems the fabric gets softer/more comfortable over time.

Still, I love this bra and want to snag some of the older colorways while I can, since I suspect the newer fit won't work as well on me. Due to the seeming inconsistencies among bras with the same band size and color, I'm not sure I'd ever consider it worth it to buy a Dessous for the full price.
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- That looks so good on you! I'm jealous! :) Claudette definitely did not love me like that.
- Well, the ten bucks were definitely well spent! :) Great fit.
- I actually tried on one of the newer colorways (I want to say there was purple, but it's been a few months) and in a 32G it fit very well, similarly to how you described your fit, down to not cutting into tall roots. I didn't end up buying it, but I've considered wandering back to the boutique I tried it on at to buy it.
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Didn't fit

My particular bra is narrow and immediately projected, with an extremely stretchy and generous band that I've since had to tighten. This one is a good fit on me, but I hear the fit changes every dang season. So, I'm a little hesitant to order another one... but despite slightly too tall cups, I like having this one around! Full review on my blog.

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- Beautiful!!
- Now that is a beige bra I would be happy to wear , beautiful . Yes perfect for summer .
- Boo only goes to a g in this brand .. c'est la vie.. still beautiful
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  What we need is a compilation of which dessouses were from which year/season, and that seasons fit. So if you're looking for narrow, deep, wide, shallow, tight, stretchy etc you know which colorways will work for you.
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  Robin from Claudette replied to my review on the blog. Here's what she said
  
  "Thanks for the review, glad the overall feedback was good.
  
  I would just like to offer a little insight in regards to the changes of fit. This should help you and any of your readers.
  The first season of Dessous- the launch collection Neon and black trims and the Sucre colors (pink trim on orange, black and leopard) were the first put into production. The band was a couple CM to large with the extreme stretch of the mesh.
  The following season which you reviewed, did have a CM removed from each side of the band, however it need for ther adjustments. We fit these bras in both Los Angeles and out of the U.K. Office but production was found still to be a bit to large in the band. I believe this was the first season we added 28 bands.
  In 2014 we changed factories, yet again, resulting in a small evolution in the production of Dessous. We improved out elastics and wires with this change. This season is the SS14 and would be the Hot Coral trimmed programs. Smaller band yet again, slight changes and minor adaptations as a result of the feedback over the seasons. The change in wires and second reduction in the band results in shift in neckline. Additional revisions needed.
  The production we delivered for SS15 reflect the final changes we made to Dessous. This is the program's trimmed in Raspberry or cream. We believe the band is appropriately sized, the wires not as narrow and the neckline more of a plunging V like the original that we loved.
  There have been no further changes on Dessous since SS14.
  On the early colors, general feedback is to size down a band and up a cup, however it can be subjective as you know.
  We created Encore so people could find the older colors they search for as available and we sell them
  At dramatically reduced prices, knowing people want them, however they may need to play around a bit with sizes etc...Encore is primarily a means for us to sell past seasons goods at great prices direct to the consumer, and by and large we have received a great response from our fans!!
  
  Sorry for the lengthy response, hope it helps direct your shopping choices and explains a bit more the reasons behind the changes by season."
  
  Helpful, but it still doesn't really tell me which ones are shallower. I assume the newer ones with wider wires.
- I'm pretty bummed they're using wider wires and making shallower cups. I guess that also explains why my 2013 black fishnet bra fit like a dream and the Goldie I bought last year in the same exact size was a total nightmare.
  
  I guess claudette just isn't for me anymore.
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  I tried the S15 season Claudettes in 28F, 28FF, 30E and 30F and none of them worked. While I loved the colours, the fit was too shallow, especially at the gore, wires wide in 28FF and 30F. Then I went for a 30E from an earlier season (dark blue and lime), but that was also too shallow at the gore. Since then I found some great fitting thin mesh bras from @Lejaby and @Kris line I am kinda giving up on Claudette. :(
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  I've never tried Kris Line and would have no idea what size to begin with. I just want a nude unlined bra! Without colored straps or embroidery or anything else that defeats the purpose of wearing a nude bra.
- Kris Line designs are pretty eclectic and I haven't actually seen any minimalist nudes from them. In their mesh bras I take a 65DD or 65E and I am a UK 30E FOB projected, centre full with tall roots if that helps. Sizewise for you a good starting point would be around 60FF / 65F in soft cups. Try to stay away from their older style semi-softs - torpedo alert!, while most of the padded are really heavily padded. The overall quality is really high, so you might want to give it a try.
- Erispe how do you find the lejabys? I've been eyeing a couple on eBay. I went ahead and bought one but the band and cup seemed large to me. The cup almost seemed like 1.5x too. I tried the Marilou deco Kris line. I sized up the band from reading blogs it was too big for me, I felt like it ran more like a Freya and less like a Cleo if that makes sense in the band. I think I could have gone with my typical brittish cup can been okay but I might have been able to go down one cup. Hard to say.
- I saw your beautiful Marilou revisa , would love to own one in 65E or 60F some day. I have a similar cut, the Cristin brassiere in 65E which fits as a UK 30E, but I also experimented first with a 60G, that turned out enormous in the cups. I beleve Kris Line follows the Brirtish sizng's letters with the use of EU numbers, but only 2cm cup depth difference instead of an inch, which is why there is a cup size discrepancy in the larger sizes, but not necessarily very noticeable in the smaller ones. I find their band sizes about the same as the UK brands, so no need to size up usually.
  Almost all of my Lejabys are from e-bay. It is a bit of a hit and miss as it would be with any brand, I guess. I was advised about my possible size by wendybien and ordered FR 80E, which has worked so far. What FR size do you have from Lejaby? I just received a 80F that might actually fit you. Will PM you with details.
- I have a 80E which I measured today and the band was up to 31". The wire seem soft. 31" was distorting the wires. The depth however is just over 10" and the width around 5.5". Which explains why it is too big for me. I should have measured it sooner lol
- Sorry I hijacked your Claudette post! I still think the American Tan might work for you for Claudette and I highly suggest avoiding Seafoam green.
- No you're fine! You got me curious & now I'm browsing eBay for Lejaby which I've never even heard of. Nothing in 30F/80F. A lot of 34/36/38 A/B/C. One strapless in a sister size of 32E which could work if the cups run a little big but I bet it's shallow as hell & the band would need altered. The bras are gorgeous though! From the measurements of your 80F, I could wear that size.
- Oh yes, lcl0706 - sorry for the hijack. :)
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  You need the one I just bought unless it's too wide. Its basically the same too big for me as this Claudette..... And it's a flesh tone with no other colors!
- lcl0706 you might have more luck looking for lejaby 65F. here you can find some for example
  http://www.enamora.de/marken/maison-lejaby/?gclid=CJH-_9Sz0MsCFagy0wodBX8Inw
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  Holy prices, batman! Nope that's out of my budget lol, eBay much cheaper. But I'll bookmark that site, the bras are gorgeous. How do they tend to run, in general? Sometimes I can fudge a little on wire width because very little is as narrow as I am, but they have to have projection at the wire or I'm SOL.
- I haven't tried one in a while, as the 65 bands have always been way to big for me.. so I don't think they will work for you either to be honest.. I might have a look at a shop nearby if they still sell them and try one and let you know about wire width and deepth. I need so narrow wires aswell.. even my comexim has too wide wires :(
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  I found the Lejaby wires narrow to average width (13cm/5'-ish in my size) and bands on the tighter side of TTS, cups pretty deep. My go-to size is FR 80E in this brand, which roughly corresponds to 30E. Their sizing isn't rock solid though, can vary from style to style.
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  Thanks ladies. BronteBeach I've pretty much accepted the fact that a lot of bands I'll find need altered. If I want to attempt anything outside of my go-to Comexims, then I'm usually stuck with a 30/65 band at best. Sometimes they run tight (I'm looking at you, Figleaves house brands) and are fine. Most times I just take the damn things in a bit. That's what my sewing machine is for.
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28D

Fits

This is the first bra I've tried on in my newly discovered size that I think fits me perfectly! There is very slight wrinkling, and very slight cutting at the top of my breast, and some marks are left from the tightness -but anything less tight tends to move around so I just deal with that. It provides a decent amount of support, but I mostly love it because it is so darn cute. This is also the last bra I expected to fit me given that it's completely unlined and full cup, and most reviewers seemed to have fit issues.

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  That looks great on you! I'm glad it worked out.
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30E

Didn't fit

This band is perfect, but a bit stretchy. This works for me because I'm gaining weight. The the cup fits more like an F than an E. I can fill it during my fullest days of the month, but most days, I clearly need to size down in the cup. This bra isn't the best shape for my tall roots, but the cutting in is minimal. It works better than I thought it would. My favorite thing about this bra is the lower projection. My boobs sing whenever I put it on. I going to keep stalking Zulily for another Claudette sale, and I'm going to keep eating cheesy fries for breakfast, because I love this bra (and cheesy fries)!

Chinchilla (grey/pink) colorway

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- sounds like it is 1 or 2 sizes too big.
- sorry, at certain times it is too small. If you really love it, then I would try to get a small size. :)
- I hate cutting in at the top so much! That's why I like Cleo Marcie bras. They are more even distribution of projection in the cups. And open on top.
- I really like Claudette bras. They are so original and pretty. :)
- Asos has a great sale atm!
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28DD

Didn't fit

I have loved everything I have received from @Claudette so far. I have the Fishnet Plunge in 28:4; http://bra.pe/XXwQ/ and I have the 30:4 in this same bra; http://bra.pe/XXvC/ . I was SO HAPPY with how the 30D fit me I was ecstatic to try my 28:5 Dessous. These are unfortunately two completely differently fitting bras. The comfort level on this bra is great. The band was lovely and snug. The under wires were a fine width, and I of course had my typical problem with Claudette under wire/gores. They sort of dig in and hurt to begin with, this ... either goes away or I push the wire down the channel towards the outside of the cup since there is always a bit of room in the wire channels. The shape this bra gave me was a very natural one, not at all like the 30D which was lifted, gathered, and mostly rounded. There were quite a lot of horizontal lines on this bra and a couple vertical ones on the arm pit side of the cup. I couldn't figure out what was going on with this bra till I took it off and went to measure it. This 28DD CAN NOT fit a 28, or even a 26, rib cage without the cups & wires stretching and warping. Laying flat the band measures 20.5"; certainly not unheard of for a 28 band. But then I went to stretch the band and only got to 23" before the wires & cups started warping. I think this bra would be best for a tight 24:8 (24H) with narrow roots. Although the cups/wires may be a bit warped as I wore this bra once for a ten hour shift at work. The bra band can easily stretch to at least 26" (that's where I stopped stretching it), but, again, the wires/cups begin warping after 23".
I have no idea what I'm going to do with this bra.....I'd like to try a 28D/E respectively. To see if this is a problem among all @Claudette size 28 band @Dessous bras. I plan on doing a comparison page.
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Elsa Pink / Hot Pink colorway

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- that cool pink hue is GORGEOUS
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  I know yogurt ! The best color description I can come up with is highlighter pink. SO very bright and in your face. I just wish the wires/cups didn't start warping after a 3" stretch of the band. :-(
  I'm hoping this one is just a one off and I can get another where the wires don't warp when the band stretches to at least 26".
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30F

Didn't fit

Shape: round, projected, even, close set, on the narrow end of average root width.

Oh, no. Ohhhhh no. Okay, so I got suckered into the $15 Encore sale and I did not heed your warnings, bra friends. I knew that the sizing seems utterly dependent on the colorway, so I thought I did my due diligence by ordering a couple sizes (30E and 30F) in this colorway off of Amazon. I figured I'd try 'em on, see what fits, return them, and buy it cheap on Encore. The first problem is that despite the 30E and 30F both being the same colorway and band size, the 30E was noticeably ... stretchier. How? How even? I also quadded like crazy out of the 30E, with the top part of the cup cutting into my tissue. At the time, the 30F looked, fit, and felt better, so I figured I'd go with that in the Encore sale. Unfortunately, I think I was too enticed by the $15 price tag, so I ignored a lot of fit issues in my Amazon trial which are so terribly evident now that I've purchased the non-returnable bra. Where shall we begin?

1) Not enough immediate projection. It's not super obvious until I take the bra off, but the underwires sit like 1 cm below my IMF.
2) The cups are way too wide. A solid quarter of the cup extends into my armpit where I have no breast tissue, so it's sort of a sad wrinkly mess in there.
3) The cups are also too big (the width issue is probably part of this). There's wrinkling towards the top and inner sides of the cup.

The single pro is that the 30F I got is actually tight in the band, which is great for me, as I'm on the narrower end of 30 bands. If you're a true 30 you might find it too tight.

In hindsight, the 30E was *probably* the correct size, but there's just a big ol' shape mismatch going on that was hidden by the larger cup size. I'd say if you have much upper and/or center fullness, or are very projected, you should probably avoid. Actually, the mysterious sizing inconsistencies should encourage everyone to avoid, ok?

Final notes: this bra sure *looks* cool, but if you don't 100% fill out the cups, there will be wrinkling, and the wrinkling doesn't do you any favors considering how sheer it is. The mesh is also not nearly as soft and comfortable as I would've liked. It's actually totally non-stretchy, stiff, and kind of scratchy. Boo. I cannot believe this is worth anything near what the MSRP is (like $50 or $60?), and I'm bummed I paid $15 for it https://d28qt14g3opchh.cloudfront.net/smileys/icon_sad.gif" alt=":(" />

p.s. Various reviewers indicated that the matching panties in this style ran super small. I took this advice and sized up. I have 38" hips and found that, at least in this colorway, the large brief and thong to both be too big; I should've gone with a medium. Double fail.
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Gothic Grape with New Wave colorway

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- I literally just ordered this in 30E (I loved the color way more than the 'new classic/Elsa pink that's too small).
  One thing I noticed with the dessous bras is that most of them don't feel stretchy in the lower half of the cups. The new ones I have are stretchy in the upper portion, but the way they have the bottom it's not stretchy in the right direction (it's like stretchy going up & down instead of across- if that makes sense)
  I have all my dessous panties in XS and I find them to be TTS to *slightly* small.
- Prettyncharmeuse oh, you're totally right! I just played with the mesh, and it DOES stretch - but only up-down, not in-out, which is what you really need for good fit. I also only found the top mesh to be stretchy, not the bottom. The double layer of mesh in the bottom of the cup seems to work against each other to provide very inconsistent stretch. I wish the cups were made out of the same mesh as the band, which is much softer and stretchier.
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  I think the dessous would be so much more successful if there was only one layer of mesh, OR if both pieces went (stretched) the same direction.
  The mesh is also not comfortable.
- I think the dessous would be so much more successful if there was only one layer of mesh, OR if both pieces went (stretched) the same direction.
  The mesh is also not comfortable.
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  Didn't know this sale was going on! Now I'm about to pull the trigger on the alter ego/elsa pink - been in love with this colorway for so long. I've also had varying success with these bras, so we'll see how it goes.. Also going to pick up Cool Cotton, it looks so comfortable.
  
  My wallet didn't need this, but thank you!
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  annabellynn noooo, my post was meant to be a warning, lol :P Because the colorways seem to have such varying sizes, definitely post measurements & a review when you get your haul!
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  I know the risks haha. Their sizing is seriously messed up. But they're so pretty... lol. You might be sucessful trying to resell yours at least, because it seems like people still love them..
  
  I've tried:
  
  Mauve/black 30E - TTS band, decent projection, very tall. This was a fit but I decided I wanted to get my dream colorway.
  
  Navy/lime 30E - Large band, but not bad projection wise either. Fit but was just kind of 'meh.' No lift. My least favorite color. I passed it on.
  
  Orange soda/strawberry 28FF - super wide, shallow, tall. The cup depth indicated I could fit even though it's larger than my usual size, but yikes was it shallow!
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34FF

Didn't fit

I loved the look of the Dessous for ages, so when I saw it for sale on ASOS in my favourite colourway ('pink lemonade') it was time to BUY.

Internet research suggested I should go down a back size and up a cup size...so after a strange thought process I can't quite replicate now I decided to get 34ff instead of my current standard Eveden 34f.

The 34ff is definitely the wrong size. I would strongly recommend going down a band size - and I say this as someone who prefers a looser (+2 or even +3) band. However, I'm not sure it's all about looseness; the Dessous ... band is really stretchy and just seems unsupportive, somehow...

As for cup size. Well, I sized up as suggested - and I can't actually tell if this was a mistake. I don't know if the cup is too big for me or just completely incompatible with my shape. Maybe both? There is a massive amount of room at the top of the cup, and some at the bottom. However, the width of the wires is pretty much spot on, and there is not quite enough central depth, so my poor sad nipples get squashed.

My theory is that the Dessous is suited to shallow breasts with tall roots (if that makes sense). I have an almost round breast root, whereas the cup of the Dessous seems designed to fit a breast that covers much more the chest vertically. The cup cannot cope with projection, either, at least on top. I feel like I'd need to get at least one cup size smaller to fit vertically, but then the bra would cut in at the top. Plus the wires would sit on my breasts at the side. Sigh...

I've thought about this so much because I LOVE the look of the bra and wanted to get another that fit. It is completely, perfectly sheer, and the 'pink lemonade' colour combination is gorgeous. The mesh is a little rough to the hand, but perfectly comfortable on the breast. It's a beautiful bra, and I'd get another if I thought it would work on me. Sadly, it's just not going to happen.
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28G

Didn't fit

This bra is definitely pretty, it's a sexy bra, but the fit is bad for me so it's hard to write a hardcore detailed review of it. The quality of the bra is decent, it's got all the necessary seams and whatnot, but what really gets my goat is that the band is super short. It stretches quite a bit, but there is not much of the band fabric itself.

When wearing the bra, the wires are in the wrong place and the band is uncomfortably tight. The cup depth is okay, the cup fits decently but I'm quadding. When wearing it with an extender, the band fits ... better, but the wires are still uncomfortable and the cup doesn't fit anymore.

When it comes to the look of the bra however, it looks pretty good. There are bows on the straps where they begin above the cups, and there's a big bow in the middle of the gore. The meshj fabric looks nice and would probably give sexy look if it fit my boobs lol. The straps are nice and wide and it's a 3-part cup, and the top seam of the cup is stretchy and could maybe accommodate breast tissue at the very top edge of the cup.

I think i'd recommend this bra to someone with a short torso. I'm not sure though, but this bra feels like it would fit a smaller person than me. I have a long torso and I believe the wires are so uncomfortable because of the band tightness, but also the placement of them.

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Black colorway

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  oh dear. Yes, Claudette Dessous unfortunately was notorious for inconsistencies in manufacturing and their mesh was really stretchy. The cups typically ran large and deep, so if you wanted to keep it you might try a bra band extender and reassess the fit of the cups. They are so badly distorted by the overtight band that it's hard to know what would happen if it were normal length.
- Oh dear! I can see the quadding and how the band is tight. Will you try it again in a different size?
- wendybien I have an extender, and while the band fit, the cup fit changed and wasn't any better unfortunately. In the beginning when i tried it the cups fit OK, not good or bad but like OK. Trying it with an extender made the band wearable but the wires were still in the wrong place. :S
  
  Calluna I would consider trying this in a 30F or FF, yes. But I'm still very skeptical to this bra! Lol
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  I remember I could not get it to work either because of the placement of the apex of the cup (too far out on the sides compared to my boobs) and because even at a size where the cup was clearly loose and too big, the edge still cut in and made an indent! It was just an odd bunch of fit problems. I can't remember any issues with the wires but I think a LOT of people, if size up to the point where they will get less (even if still some) cutting-in at the cup edge, will effectively be in a too-large cup and this means the wires tend to be more uncomfortable on the body as the boobs aren't "pushing back" against the bra. Regardless of size, you may also feel the ends of the wires more when a mushy, loose mesh material like this has insufficient tension overall, because the band is not as secure and the wires can move around more easily.
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  I would give the 30 band a go, being a huge Claudette fan myself, I've tried about 4 different sizes in the Dessous and atleast one of all their other models beside 3 of them (dessous sucre, paloma, and the sophia i think). I found that Claudette mostly failed when it came to their size 28 bands. The grading just did not work out very well. My 28DD could easily fit a 24 or 26 band person and the cups seemed very odd compared to my 30D which fits really great. There is still some little wrinkles given the sort of mesh it is, but they don't show through my clothes so I wear it all the time. The band is also too large, too small on the 28 and too big on the 30, but it doesn't ride up on the tightest hooks. I will probably end up reinforcing the band so it stretches less with wear. The only 28 band I found worked with Claudette was their Fishnet plunge and probably the Paramour (if you can find one in a 28), they seem to be sized and graded much better than the dessous. I need to find a fishnet plunge in 28DD or 30D as the 28D is just too small for me anymore.
  Their fishnet plunge is the only one I have found TTS. The Paramour is definitely on the smaller end with a looser band as I wear the 30DD on the tightest hooks. The others I have are just too wide at the wires for me so I don't wear them (except the longline ones, but thats a whole nother conversation). If theres more you want to learn about Claudette models you are more than welcome to message me and gotta love Bratabase and Claudette in general seems to have quite a lot of information for this defunct brand.
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  Looks like you may be a band off and a cup off in sizing. Maybe 30G ?
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  I wish I was that full, but Im just not . lol
- wendybien That's a good point. This bra is just generally not a good fit for me, I seem to be too vertically full for this to be a good fit on top. I also have to agree that this feels way less sturdy than my Panache bras!
  LeProfessor Thanks for offering information! I appreciate it lots, though I'm not likely to pursue this bra any more than selling this one.
  mckend I appreciate the input (and reminding me that I wrote this review!), a 30G is deffo more likely to fit but I won't be trying it anytime soon. I've fallen in love with Panache and Freya, and I don't dare to test the Claudette waters now that I'm so comfortable with my current bras. Still, thanks for commenting and reminding me I wrote this! And that I need to write more reviews.
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