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Beatrice #577 in both 28KK (60P) and 28L (60Q)
This particular bra is classified as a mini long line, in an Orange color and plunge style. In person, the orange is far more “peachy” in color than the pumpkin orange I was hoping for, but still a nice looking bra. It is in the standard 2 lower vertical sections and one upper horizontal section, lightly foam lined.
I ordered it in both 60P (deeper at the wire) and 60Q, but requested to have labels on the bra as I’ve received them in the past without them, so Anna went with the UK labels due to no EU labels in ... these sizes being currently available. For the sake of simplicity and more information in one place, I am reviewing both bras together.
As many of you already know, after my last Comexim order from January of this year and stopped buying from them in my own personal Comexim boycott. When they released this Orange bra, I just couldn’t resist, so I opted to try again, submitting my order and requesting they contact me if any of the customizations couldn’t be done as requested. Anna confirmed all could indeed be done as requested.
I’ll first review the customizations, measurements then fit and overall assessment. It will be long, sorry!
All measurements are taken straight out of the box and prior to trying the bra on to insure no figure is distorted by the body. I also take all flat measurements before taking the stretched cup then band measurements for the same reason.
Customizations requested: 28KK (60P)
Deeper at the wire (possibly done), wires from 60O (possibly done), wires overlapped at gore (really standard at this size), straps moved in 2cm (not done), reduced cup height if possible (done)
Customizations requested: 28L (60Q)
Wires from 60O (not done), wires overlapped at gore (standard in this size), straps moved in 2cm (not done), reduced cup height if possible (done)
On to the details!
The bands both came with 5 rows of hooks and 4 sets of eye loops. 60P measured 23.5” and stretched to 29”, while 60Q measured 23” and stretched to 28.5”. These are longer than expected since Anna sent me an email just before completion to ask specifically how long I needed them, but this is still better than the current trend for the 60 bands so I do feel she shortened them, just was conservative with it.
Cup Depth as measured by:
1 Hovering the cup between the knees, then placing the tape measure into the cups without any resistance.
This measurement is: 13.38” (60P) and 13.5” (60Q)
2 Placing the cup over the knee and stretching it similar to what a breast would, to the maximum resistance.
This measurement is: 15.5” (60P) and 16” (60Q)
I feel these two figures give you a general idea of the minimum and maximum depth that the cup can accommodate, just like the flat and stretched band measurements do with bands. Since Bratabase only has one cup field, I enter the larger of the two, as it’s this larger number that determines if a cup is going to fit me or not since I am on the max end of the cup scale, but do realize that some may need the lower number to determine fit for their needs, so I will always include both figures in the reviews for full disclosure.
The wire width was 6” on the 60P and 6.25” on the 60Q which was a bit disappointing as I requested them both to be the 60O 6” wires and Anna said that wasn’t a problem. The 60P in the past has been very inconsistent with the wires, sometimes being 6” and others 6.25” and the 60Q were 6.25” on my last order, which is just too wide for me in the Comexim shape and cut.
While it is recommended to lower the gore in this band/cup combo, I chose to not lower the gore with these bras, as I feel doing so increased the quadding. The gore height measures the same for both, 4.38”. I did request the cup height to be lowered if possible to eliminate the standard issue of extra space at the strap, and at 8.75” for 60P and 9” for 60Q, I think they were lowered a bit. The height in my standard 60P Comexim plunge bras is 9”. Normally this is perfect for me, allowing for coverage of my nipples while still providing so skin to show for more appeal.
The gore widths were ½” for 60P and .63” for 60Q. These figures are not bad, but not as overlapped as I’ve received in the past from Comexim. Anna did email stating they couldn’t overlapped them completely due to the wires being in the way, which I think was a miscommunication so I am not surprised that this was not done as requested.
For additional measurements, the vertical seam on the cup from the wire to the horizontal seam is 6.3” on the 60P, and 6.38” on the 60Q. The horizontal seam from the gore to the vertical is 6.75” on both, and from the vertical to the wing side of the cup it measures 5.25” on the 60P and 4.75” on the 60Q. The height of the cup from the horizontal seam to the top of the cup at the gore is 1.75” and 2” while at the wing it is 2.38” and 2.5” respectively. Since the horizontal seam ends in the wing area above the wire, the total measurement of this seam is much less than the actual cup depth, at 12” (60P) and 11.5” (60Q) but if you look at the projection photos, you can also see that the seam sits above the apex of the bra as well.
Now for fit! I am nearing low tide so how these fit in two weeks will be quite different. I will try to remember to update photos at that time.
Both bras are unfortunately a fail. The wires are much shorter than the wire channels, ¾” shorter on the 60P and a full 1” shorter on the 60Q. If I slide the wires all the way into the gore, the wires poke painfully under the arm, but if I slide them all the way into the wing, the gore goes from being 2 fingers off the sternum to a well over 3 finger full float. Neither is supportive or secure feeling.
The cup can’t sit in my IMF due to the strap placement & wing height/cup curve, and maybe that there just isn’t as much immediate depth as I need. While this doesn’t make this a fail by itself, it does insure the gore is sitting much lower than it should be, which compiles the other fit issues.
With this lower sitting cup, the height of the cup becomes an issue and my nipples have to be tucked back in after a swoop n scoop as they otherwise are completely outside of the cup. When I lean forward, my nipples do pop out. Since the cup height is perfect based on my other bras, I feel it is only a problem due to this strap/wing domino effect. The IMF issue is more an issue in the 60P, as the photos of the 60Q the bra looks like it’s almost in my IMF, but the side of the cup is still an issue and too wide.
While typically a 6” wire would be fine, Comexim wires are softer and since it doesn’t fill the channel, I think it distorts it more, so both bras end up being too wide as a result. It’s not terrible in the 60P, but is noticeable on my right profile photos for sure. The 6.25” wires of the 60Q are all around just too wide. This is clearly visible in the photos.
To compile the end result of the cup fit, I get a lot of center spillage and quadding in both sizes. Many of the photos hide this well especially front view, but it is very clear in some of the photos and painfully clear from my view, haha.
The bands still require the tightest hook setting but were comfortable. If the cups actually fit, the band would be great. I don’t like the look of the band from the back on the tightest hook settting though, as it looks like I have a big Y in the center of my back and it just looks off. Since I wouldn’t normally see this, haha, it really doesn’t matter, I know.
So there we have it, empty space on the sides, cup collapse on the bottom, center spillage and quadding in the top and center. Major East-West look which is not appealing on my frame. I do know some of you are thinking, “Why doesn’t she just do a reverse Swoop n Scoop?” Well, simply it doesn’t work. My breasts are closer set than these cups allow, so in turn, it would give even more of an E-W look and as soon as I moved my arms, my boobs would be in the way and pop out the front of the bra again. :/ Another issue, I would prefer to loosen the straps on this one as well, but again, I experience pop out when I do.
In regards to quality, as can be seen in the photos, this is another Comexim bra that has the outer material looser than the lining, creating a wrinkling on the material even though the cups are filled. I have not washed the bras so there is no possibility of unequal shrinkage or anything; these are straight out of the box. You can also see a nice crease in the foam liner on some of the photos thanks to traveling 2.5 weeks in the mail in a bend/collapsed position…This crease may go away once the bra sits flat and is washed, but I cannot say for sure. Aside for these two complaints, I don’t see any quality issues.
I also ordered the matching panty in a Small. The small range is supposed to be for 85-93cm, yet these only stretch to a max of 82cm. The other Comexim panties I have tried were more TTS to being on the larger side so I was a bit surprised that these are so small. While I can squeeze them on over my hips easier that I expected, I do get that less than idea muffin top look so these are a fail as well.
Needless to say I am disappointed all around with this order, and since this was my “give them another try” I can now be confident it will be my last. Such a bummer as I do love their patterns, and the owner of Comexim, Anna, is such a sweet and caring person. I just think the communication gets lost or ignored once it hits the seamstresses, so even when Anna puts in a lot of extra effort to insure my happiness and a great fit, it doesn’t result in getting the job done as stated. I will not be complaining to Anna about it this time, as she refunded my last order due to the disregard of customizations, and I don’t want her to do that again. She did personally put in the time to try and work through the details, and she is very caring about her workers, so stating the issues this time around I just don’t think will really solve anything so it’s better left unsaid. I just think the seamstresses have a difficult time imagining the width vs depth ratio of these sizes. ☹ I know Comexim bras work beautifully for many women, but for me at my current size, they just don’t work. I just need the more upfront and fuller coverage the Ewa bras offers. And thus my love for Ewa bras ensues……
For side by side projection photos to compare:
https://www.bratabase.com/compare/dlooy/pictures/
For photos of the 60P/28KK:
https://www.bratabase.com/bra/diwkv/
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Orange colorway
- This bra's measurements have been altered
- Reduced cup height
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Updated on Nov 07, 2018 Flag this
That is a lot of extra fabric on the top of the cups. They really don't know how to make cups in this size, and that is quite sad. It's a lovely colour, I wish it had worked out better for you. :(