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Bras » Ewa Michalak » Bm Brownie (1424) » 60L 28:17

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Fits ribcage0.0
B. perimeter0.0
Stretched Band71.3
Band Length57.7
Cup width15.9
Cup depth41.9
Wire length33.0
Cup height26.7
Cup separation1.6
Gore height10.7
Wing height11.4
Strap width2.0
Hooks3

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    BM Brownie 60L

    BM Brownie is a full lace BM bra. It is brown with a berry colored larger bow at the gore. It has a sheer black liner to the cups. The lace is the exact same as BM Croptop Topaz, but Topaz has an opaque beige liner to the cups instead. I ordered this bra and 3 others from MagdaBras4you, who provides exceptional customer service. Basically if it is a Polish brand of lingerie, she can get it.

    Now for measurements:

    All measurements are taken prior to trying the bra on to insure no figure is obscured by the body. I also take ... all flat measurements before taking the stretched cup then band measurements for the same reason.

    The band measures 22.5” and stretches to a max of 28”. It has 3 hooks and 4 rows of eye loops.

    Cup Depth as measured by:
    1 Hovering the cup between the knees, then placing the tape measure into the cups without any resistance.
    This measurement is: 13”
    2 Placing the cup over the knee and stretching it similar to what a breast would, to the maximum resistance.
    This measurement is: 16.5”

    I feel these two figures give you a general idea of the minimum and maximum depth that the cup can accommodate, just like the flat and stretched band measurements do with bands. Since Bratabase only has one cup field, I enter the larger of the two, as it’s this larger number that determines if a cup is going to fit me or not since I am on the max end of the cup scale, but do realize that some may need the lower number to determine fit for their needs, so I will always include both figures in the reviews for full disclosure.

    The wires used were the lazy J wires that are typically found in the SF style instead of the standard U wires that are found in the BMs. This makes them 6.25” wide instead of the 6”, and also pulls the cups more under the armpit, and the straps more wide set.


    The removable paper label was mislabeled as an SF style. The bra is definitely the BM style without the SF stiffness, so it was just a labeling mishap.

    As for fit,
    Like my other 60L BMs this one could stand to be a bit smaller as the cups are spacious. Unfortunately the cup size down is too small for me at the moment, so I feel that I am technically between sizes for the BM style. As the 60KK is painfully small in the cup, I will take these at a bit big and yet comfortable happily over the pain. The wide set straps (and lazy J wires) do make the strap meet some arm resistance, so I get a bit of upper cup wrinkle near the strap. The fit would look a bit better, but as you can see, I was slouching in the photos. :-/ This isn’t a problem for me, as it won’t be noticeable under my sweatshirts and doesn’t affect the comfort or support.

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      From looking at the cup shape, this looks a bit too closed and tall on you. It’s too bad but it’s nice the support is still there.

    • As long as it's comfortable and doesn't cause any pain, I'm happy with it at the moment. But yes, it isn't a perfect fit.

      My nipples actually sit at the seam instead of the upper lace section (where they normally do) and it almost tacks, so it's one of those few steps forward, few steps back situations, haha.

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      This is a really pretty bra despite some of the fit issues.

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      Oh it's beautiful!

    • It really is brasaremean. Something about the earthy tones for me lately. I just love them. 💚

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      btw I always thought nipples should sit at the seam otherwise the bra is too small! How wrong was I?

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      brasaremean I think it all depends on where it's situated?

      I really do love this bra (mine are in Miami, so I'm hoping by next week I get it)

    • My nipples almost always sit above that seam, but that doesn't mean you're incorrect. My bras also never tack, which is also supposed to mean too small. I'm happy if it's within a finger's width if tacking. Maybe my bras have always been too small?

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      brasaremean my nipples are never at the seam unless I go down like 3-4 cup sizes. It depends on the person.

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      Frazzleberry Woohoo! I hope they fit you perfectly! 💕

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      Thanks.

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      Frazzleberry i think it depends on if you are full on top or in bottom. The seam should sit just below your fullest point generally, although different bras have different bust points.

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      Aaah, kk. That makes sense

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      cupandahalf that makes me sad, I’ll never find a bra short enough.

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      I feel like Goldilocks again, haha. One too small (short?) and the next size up too big (tall?) 😖 Where is the just right bra?!? Do we need to go for a walk through the forest in search of it, Sovavosi? 🌲🌲🌲

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      Sovavosi I feel ya. There are few bras that make my size and none that make my shape. And I’ve grown again so now I think I’m more in the 40K range. :(

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      cupandahalf I’m so sorry ☹️

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      cupandahalf Sorry honey. Big hugs. 💙💜💚 Do you want to join us in the forest search for the mythical perfect bra?

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      It’s ok. I’m sorry too. The farther you get from D the harder it gets.

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      MamaPagan It's beautiful! Thank you. :)

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      Thank you MagdaBras4you! 💕

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    Hm. I've been pondering this bra off and on all day. I've tried this bra that Mamapagan sent to me three different times today, and I just don't know how to assess the fit.


    At first glance, there's a lot of wrinkling at the top of the cups. I'm not sure if this is just because I lack the upper fullness or if it's due to the fact that the bra itself is too big.

    I have wrinkling on the bottom of the cups, but it's more of an "orange in the glass" effect if that makes sense.

    The straps are so wideset that I think it attributes to ... the wrinkling/gapping I'm getting in the top cups.

    The band is tricky. The band is too loose on the loosest hooks. The band seems to be a good fit on the third hookset, but after adjusting things a little, I found that the band rode up. Okay, fine, tried the second hookset. This option seemed painfully tight... But after I took some pictures of the fit, the band was riding up?

    I don't know how to assess the fit. It's like I'm still getting a teapot effect, i.e. the weight of my breasts are STILL pushing the band up and cups down, which doesn't make sense due to the wrinkling/gapping, UNLESS it's just because of my lack of upper fullness and short root.

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      Making the band too tight + too tight straps == band rides up.

      If it's orange in a glass, are you having wire pain because there is breast tissue that is not contained under your armpits?

      This is just my opinion, but I do think that Ewa makes the cups too tall in the upper end of the range and very few people are actually going to fit it. If the bottom of the cup and the sides are filled out, then I'd say that it is a fit.

    • Sovavosi Hm. I understand what you're saying, but it was a combination of one or the other. My band was too tight and the straps were all the way loose, and then my band was too loose and my straps too short.
      I have wire pain when I wore it on too tight of a hookset, but that's understandable. I actually had welts from the wires from doing that.
      I feel like the bottom of the cup isn't filled out on my smaller side. I have the same issue on my larger side, but not to that extent. So are you saying based on that, that the 60L is too big?

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      Sorry the fit wasn't what you anticipated it to be. Hopefully your bras from Magda will fare better for you. 💙

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      If you’re an omega you probably won’t find wires narrow enough to fit you, if I understand how that works. How do the wires feel otherwise? Do they poke you in the armpit or ribs? If you can live with the wire width then I wouldn’t say it is too big. The first photo from the front looks good to me. You might need a 65 band though.

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      Or not, sorry I thought your snug UB was 29”.

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      Thanks MamaPagan Me too!

      @sovavosi the wire width is fine I feel. I don't have too many issues there. Just the odd cup dilemma.
      And haha, nope. Turns out I've been measuring incorrectly, but I'm a consistent 27ish UB anymore.

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      If it helps, here's an article on the orange in glass effect:

      http://www.venusianglow.com/2013/05/empty-space-in-cup-aka-orange-in-glass.html?m=1

    • MamaPagan I thought mine could be considered orange in a glass because my tissue fits everywhere but the top and bottom of the cup, since I have that weird folding underneath my breasts in the cup of the bra.

    • Sorry about the fit :(

    • Not fitting in the bottom could be too shallow or the wires are the wrong shape.

    • Sovavosi Now what do you mean by too shallow? Like the cup? I'm confused :o

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      Frazzleberry It's okay! :)

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      If the bottom of the cup doesn’t have enough immediate projection then you can get wrinkling at the bottom of the cup. I don’t think it’s too shallow, rather that the wires are the wrong shape. The BM is her most projected bra AFAIK.

    • Sovavosi ah I see, I see. So you're saying my shape is incompatible with a BM?

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      Could be, but at this size there is so little choice. I think the responses in this Reddit thread might help you.

      https://www.reddit.com/r/ABraThatFits/comments/aons9f/question_is_a_little_wrinkling_in_the_cup_normal/

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      Sovavosi Thanks! That had a lot of helpful information. I'm still curious about how a 60KK might fit haha.

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      DerangedDragons19 I should be getting my BM Brownie sometime this week in 60KK (it finally cleared customs, it arrived the same time as my Gorsenia, so idk why it took so long). I'll be putting up the measurements when I collect it/have the time.

      Sovavosi that link was very helpful

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      Frazzleberry ohh goody! I'll be looking forward to your review! :)

    • DerangedDragons19 no problem ;)

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      I think the cups are just straight up too large - wrinkling in the lower cup can also just mean that the lower cup is too big rather than an OiG/depth at the wire issue. I suspect that the extra space is making the bra unstable, and your breast tissue is pushing the excess fabric over the wire at the bottom which is contributing to that teapot effect you're describing.

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      hugsforyourjugs that could very well be! I just didn't know how to assess the fit. I mean, maybe it doesn't fit? Maybe it does? It seems like from different angles it does fit, while others it doesn't fit. The cups felt more comfortable than my JJ's by far, but that doesn't mean it fits either, you know? I have a 60KK BM that should arrive Friday and I'm hoping that'll clear up some of my confusion. :)
      Thanks for your insight!

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      I will say that this bra is the first one that encapsulates all my tissue up where it starta under my arm. I noticed that I didn't have that weird tissue folding/pinching in this bra, so I felt that was a huge step in the right direction for me :)

    • Observe on my left hand side of the side view pictures :)

      http://bra.pe/X0JS/

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      I'm not sure the wrinkling isn't just the bra. I have some wrinkling on various BMs, even ones that are too small.

      Apricot: http://bra.pe/IlBN/
      Sofia, when I was swelling out of it and it was painful: http://bra.pe/IlWT/

      The bottom of some BMs just wrinkle, I don't know why.

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      I feel that while the BM in our range has decent projection, it still lacks the immediate projection right at the wire. :-/

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