30FF 30:8

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Fits ribcage	74.0
B. perimeter	0.0
Stretched Band	76.1
Band Length	61.5
Cup width	15.5
Cup depth	24.8
Wire length	22.9
Cup height	15.5
Cup separation	2.0
Gore height	3.9
Wing height	8.4
Strap width	2.5
Hooks	2

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50% breathable cotton. https://d28qt14g3opchh.cloudfront.net/smileys/icon_smile.gif" alt=":-)" /> https://d28qt14g3opchh.cloudfront.net/smileys/icon_smile.gif" alt=":-)" /> This bra has low wings, a wide wire, and a low gore. These are important characteristics to me--somewhat narrow, immediately projected, short waisted, short rooted, omega shaped, close set, and center full.

The cup may be one size small: keep this in mind as you read.

Straps are half padded and wide only in front and over the shoulders. Sincerely, these are very comfortable SHORT SHORT straps. I'm relatively high set and petite. I extended the straps as far as they would go and I could use another 1/2" of length. Low set, ... tall users RUN...unless you like alterations https://d28qt14g3opchh.cloudfront.net/smileys/icon_smile.gif" alt=":-)" />

The cups are too wide set for my close-set pair. And, I thought this fit better than most bras I've worn until I removed the bra and viewed the wire lines on one breast all along the breast's circumference. It is too center-shallow for me, but should fit average breasts well.

The cup height and apex location are perfect for me. This is unusual and wonderful. https://d28qt14g3opchh.cloudfront.net/smileys/icon_smile.gif" alt=":-)" /> So, short-rooted friends, this is a good option.

The low wings are a design feature I so need, because I have significant breast tissue under my arm (roughly 3.6" above my IMF). Wires poking or compressing this tissue make me instantly uncomfortable. This bra with its low wing and wide wire did not cause immediate discomfort.

The cup shrouds prominent nipples and cuddles them in a cotton-lined cup. https://d28qt14g3opchh.cloudfront.net/smileys/icon_smile.gif" alt=":-)" /> https://d28qt14g3opchh.cloudfront.net/smileys/icon_smile.gif" alt=":-)" />

Admirable design characteristics for the short-rooted among us.
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- Show all comments (16)
- This is adorable. How have I never heard of this bra? I bet it was discontinued a century ago. Sounds like the straps would be far too short for me.
- Yep...2012. Old stock on sale via Amazon. Seriously, the shortest straps I have experienced in 360+ bras: SHORT. Considering my dimensions, only the most petite of people could wear this particular bra.
  
  The low wings are such a gift to my short-waisted physique, and I wish there were many others. But, it seems I'm destined to reside in the wireless community. Thankfully, gifted, caring people like you have us hard-to-fit bodies covered!
- This is lovely!
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  What a beautiful print on the lower cup!
  
  GIRL WHY ARE YOU STILL TRYING UNDERWIRES D: I think they all want to kill you.
  
  What you say about the tissue on your side makes sense. I think on some ppl, axillary tissue just continues smoothly into sideboob tissue and there isn't really an empty space for a wire to sit in?!
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  :-) :-) wendybien I attribute this purchase to your advice: "you just need to find a wire with short wings." This was it. The last wire. It is so strange having breast tissue that fits literally front and center. Not one wired bra I tried yet is designed for this, and many wireless bras are not ideal for this tissue arrangement.
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  That was months ago you can't pin that on me!!! LOL
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  wendybien Love4Pollinators you gals are hilarious. ❤️️
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  Love4Pollinators that breast shape with all the volume at the inner half is not uncommon at all, what's less common is your combo of fullness there, but tissue continuing (albeit without much of any projection) all the way round your side and up into your armpit. Most "all front" ppl have very narrow roots so they can wear the narrow wires but obvs you cannot if there is nowhere that the wire can sit on the side. Or you would need a Nike swoosh shaped wire. lol
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  wendybien My sister, standing be side me and upright, thought we had nearly identically sized breasts, but leaning forward caused her eyes to open widely and she gasped, "Oh my. I guess not." It is shallow but apparently somewhat substantial. Sigh. Nike swooshes welcome here :-)
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  That kind of thing is why I sometimes get mad at r/abrathatfits. They insist the only way to size is to see someone in a bra. I beg to differ. The best way to size someone is to see them in a bra, naked leaning forward, naked standing. Bras also hide a lot of fit issues.
- cupandahalf where are you getting that from? If there's members of the sub saying that then I'll try to address them when they do. Nobody's supposed to be insisting that people need to post pictures.
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  It's nobody insisting they need pics, it's ABTF in general saying breasts not in a bra say nothing about fit or shape. Which I tend to disagree with. Especially when it comes to the confusion of shallow vs pendulous. Multiple times I've seen someone say they're shallow when they have a 3-4" difference between standing & leaning overbust measurements. That's just not possible, that's more than likely a pendulous shape, which is a form of projected, & that's always going to require a bra with a lot of immediate depth, & pendulous breasts are easy to identify when you lean over & all of a sudden you have BOOBS. Pendulous breasts don't always stick out far from the chest when standing though, so I can see how they get confused when reading the description of shallow breasts. Without a bra on I look nearly flat but I'm the opposite of shallow. I've always thought there needs to be a clearer description of shallow & pendulous in the beginners guide.
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  lcl0706 that's what I meant. That naked breasts don't tell anyone about shape. The shape gallery here has helped me immensely for instance. With body image as well as bra fitting tbh.
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  lcl0706 that's a great example of why we advise people to not judge their shape from naked boobs, though? Those people who say they are shallow but they are actually pendulous, that's because they're looking at their shape standing up /without a bra/, just like you said, and comparing it to charts or discussions of shape. That's exactly the entrapment of trying to determine shape from naked breasts that we want people to avoid. Whereas, those breasts will behave as projected when put in a bra.
  
  We do take things like difference between standing vs leaning into account when helping someone determine their shape. Also, our beginner's guide was just overhauled. Have you seen the new one? https://www.reddit.com/r/ABraThatFits/wiki/beginners_guide it now says clearly to support your breasts when judging projection & has a graphic linked showing how projection can be misjudged from a standing position, and it says outright "pendulous breasts are almost always projected."
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  I wish Bratabase required a "hand bra" photo because it clarifies several of my shape issues.
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  I find hand bras really complicated due to my very large pendulous omega shape. If I hold my breast to my chest it folds up over itself. If I hold it out on my hand it is not shaped the way it is in a bra. I feel like the best hand bra for me would be leaning over with a hand cradling my breast and pushing it back towards my chest a bit.
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