I was pretty excited about this bra, but unfortunately for me it is a big disappointment.
While the materials used feel like they're quality, the actual quality of the bra is lacking. It both looks and feels cheap (either on or off), and there are some major sewing issues that I have no idea how they pass any QA.
For me, the only redeeming quality about this bra is the beautiful colour.
The bra has three part cups, fully lined with non-stretch tulle. Top of the cup is finished with an elastic, my guess is to better hold onto the top of the breast and not slide down. The elastic is always ...an issue for me, and this bra is no exception. It cuts into my tissue like crazy and it's actually quite uncomfortable, while at the same time feeling like it's not containing anything in. In addition to that, the cups are way too shallow for me, and way too short as well. I genuinely feel like my boobs are about to fall out of this bra. The lace on the cups is stretchy. I will never understand the point of that. It also looks as if there is more of lacy material than there is the tulle, so the lace bunches around the seams from the tension and such. It's really very odd.
The band is extremely stretchy. At 60cm unstretched, it measures to over 80cm stretched, which is what my 70s measure usually. I feel like for optimal band size I would have needed at least a 60, or a 55 even.
The wire channels are what causes the most issues for me I think. They seem like they are too wide for how thin the wires are. It just never feels like my breasts are contained in the wire, and the channels keep turning around the wire, I'm not at all used to this feeling.
The gore... does not tack. For those reading my reviews, you know that even my worst fitting bras, even if small, the gore will stick tack. Rarely does it not and if it doesn't it's because either the wires are flimsy or they are weird shaped. The wires on Rosi are very wide, and very flimsy. They are also weirdly shaped - like a slightly deeper (. The gore is very wide (the widest I've had so far). It floats very obviously. When I press the gore in to tack, the cups cut my breasts in two.
The positives - the straps are very long, though they are hard to adjust. The colour is absolutely fantastic, like a warmer red.
Overall, pretty disappointed. This bra is just too shallow for me.
Also sorry for crappy pics, the weather sucks today.
edit: I do want to say that I very carefully followed their size chart and even sized up in cup cause I genuinely felt like a 65H wouldn't have been large enough in the cup. In reality, what I should have done is ordered something close to 65J or 65K (or rather, a 60K or L or something around there). Their advice (I contacted their Facebook page asking how to measure) was to put a bra on and measure my bust like that... yeah no. Don't do that. Read more 425 more words
Aw man, that is such a bummer Sorry it didn't work work out ☹️. (The colour is gorgeous though).
60 that stretches to 80! Yikes! That's a lot of stretch in that band.
Ouch, I’m sorry it didn’t work. The gore picture for me is an automatic no. Bummer, they have such nice designs. 🙁
Ahhhhhh. :(
I was looking forward to hearing about this brand. What a disappointment
Oh no!! I know that you were nervous about the sizing when you got the pictures and it looks like your instincts were right. Sorry that it’s not a good fit.
How disappointing. So sorry.
Yes overall this one is a fail! The gore Sovavosi worst part is it's so flimsy it wouldn't even try to tack.
It’s so wide too. I can barely handle how wide Ewa’s fires are now. Though if they don’t tack it doesn’t matter right? 🙃
Yikes....the wires are very wide, and the gore.....UK bra flashbacks......bummer. This is a 30:9 which tells me it would be small in the cup for you. With all the models wearing the bras on the tightest hooks the band issue doesn't surprise me. Aside from the sizing trial and error, that gore and wire width are alarming & I hope mine fare better. I did ignore their chart though and base my size off our index sizing and the model photos so....... Hopefully that will work size wise, but the quality and construction issues are a concern regardless of fit. At least it was only one bra for you, right?
Yes the wires are especially worrying to me! Mainly cause in the photos they looked fairly narrow, and on the models as well, but I don't even know how to explain this, they are just really wide and maybe plunge shaped? But in a balconette. So odd.
And I agree, I should have just ordered my size, *however* I do feel like a size up wouldn't have fixed my main issue--the wires.
Maybe mine will shed more light on the oddities when they arrive. Still not in the states yet, so I'm thinking they won't arrive until next year.
True brasaremean, quite true. The wires may have been worse, and the gore no better. :-/
BTW I'm totally down to send this to someone if they wanna try it.
I’d try it but it is not going to fit me as it is way too wide, stretchy, and deep. I’m curious about the size that I would need in this brand were I to try them.
Your normal size 100% except sister sized down to either 60 or 55.
brasaremean I am glad that you have been delivering the parcel. I'm just sorry that the bra doesn't suit you. I admit that this brand of bras is also "new" to me. I thank you very much for a very detailed description. Other girls will have your opinion in mind. This is how my experience shows, each brand of bras differs from each other. Thank you again.
Anisa Semi Soft in 60P Anisa is a semi soft bra, with light foam padding on the bottom of the cup and slightly stretchy lace on the top. It would be comparable to Kinga’s semi soft style bras. This particular bra is a very dark blue lace, and is quite beautiful. While Nazeli shows this bra on their website without eyelash lace, what I received has it, which was a surprise.
The quality of the materials does appear exceptional, especially for the price, and it is very well made. I did experience an oddity with mine due to the size, as they chose to use a 60I label and ...a sharpie to make the “I” into a P, and I can only assume it’s due to them not having the 60P label on hand. Since I ordered 3 55R and 2 60P, I had this done on all 5 of my bras (the sharpie method) which did not work so well as it is smeared on half of the bras, and altogether just has a tacky look to it. I realize that “standard” sizes would not experience this, but the larger cup sizes will. If you are like me, you will be very bothered by this, so it is worth noting. As I like proper labels on my bras, this does bother me more than it really should, haha.
Now on to the measurements!
All measurements are taken prior to trying the bra on to insure no figure is obscured by the body. I also take all flat measurements before taking the stretched cup then band measurements for the same reason.
The band measures 24” and stretches to a max of 29”. It has 3 hooks and 3 rows of eye loops. This makes it a bit big for a true 28 band, but not far off in comparison to most brands of late.
Cup Depth as measured by: 1 Hovering the cup between the knees, then placing the tape measure into the cups without any resistance. This measurement is: 14.5” 2 Placing the cup over the knee and stretching it similar to what a breast would, to the maximum resistance. This measurement is: 17”
I feel these two figures give you a general idea of the minimum and maximum depth that the cup can accommodate, just like the flat and stretched band measurements do with bands. Since Bratabase only has one cup field, I enter the larger of the two, as it’s this larger number that determines if a cup is going to fit me or not since I am on the max end of the cup scale, but do realize that some may need the lower number to determine fit for their needs, so I will always include both figures in the reviews for full disclosure.
As for the remaining measurements, the cup width is 6.75”, height 10.25”, wing 5.88”, with a gore of 3.75” tall and 0.88” wide.
As for fit, You all better realize just how much I love you to put myself out there in such an embarrassing fit. And there are still two more bras to go, so I am hoping that someone gets something positive out of these reviews (photos) so I don’t have to feel so stupid. https://d28qt14g3opchh.cloudfront.net/smileys/icon_surprised.gif" alt=":-o" />
The conclusion is another Fail, but I’m sure that was a given with the photos, haha. The cups are clearly 2-3 cups too large, the gore is too wide set, the wing is too tall, the straps are too long, and the wires wrap around almost to my back. This last part is in part due to the cups being too large but also the insanely wide wires on a 28 band. Seriously people: If the rib cage equals less than 28” around, why would you think that the person would need the wires to take up 13.5” of that space without factoring in stretch distortion? I should be near or at high tide, so this is the fullest point of the month for me, so the fit would not improve without a lot of new growth, like a soccer ball’s worth of new growth, haha.
Consolidated disclaimer for all my Nazeli reviews: While each Band cup combo can experience different scaling, unfortunately in my range their scaling is obscenely wonky. My bust is 42” (106.75cm) and I ordered 55R and 60P (26:17 & 28:16) which would be my normal index range size. Nazeli size chart puts the cms for 55R=104-106 and 60P=107-109. In Ewa I wear 60KK-L which is labeled as 109-111.5cm and in Comexim I wear 60Q=104-106. Read more 665 more words
Adela Soft is normally a half cup similar in look to the Ewa HP style. While that was what I ordered, Nazeli made mine as a full cup instead. I assume this was due to the size ordered, 55R. The full cup version looks identical to their half cup version, minus the padding. There is no stretch lace on this cup, though the whole bra has quite a bit of “give” to the materials.
The quality of the materials does appear exceptional, especially for the price, and it is very well made. I did experience an oddity with mine due to the size, as ...they chose to use a 55I label and a sharpie to make the “I” into an R, and I can only assume it’s due to them not having the 55R label on hand. Since I ordered 3 55R and 2 60P, I had this done on all 5 of my bras (the sharpie method) which did not work so well as it is smeared on half of the bras, and altogether just has a tacky look to it. I realize that “standard” sizes would not experience this, but the larger cup sizes will. If you are like me, you will be very bothered by this, so it is worth noting. As I like proper labels on my bras, this does bother me more than it really should, haha.
Now for the measurements!
All measurements are taken prior to trying the bra on to insure no figure is obscured by the body. I also take all flat measurements before taking the stretched cup then band measurements for the same reason.
The band measures 22.5” and stretches to a max of 27.5”. It has 3 hooks and 3 rows of eye loops. This makes it a wonderful 28 band, but a bit large for a 26 band.
Cup Depth as measured by: 1 Hovering the cup between the knees, then placing the tape measure into the cups without any resistance. This measurement is: 14.5” 2 Placing the cup over the knee and stretching it similar to what a breast would, to the maximum resistance. This measurement is: 18”
I feel these two figures give you a general idea of the minimum and maximum depth that the cup can accommodate, just like the flat and stretched band measurements do with bands. Since Bratabase only has one cup field, I enter the larger of the two, as it’s this larger number that determines if a cup is going to fit me or not since I am on the max end of the cup scale, but do realize that some may need the lower number to determine fit for their needs, so I will always include both figures in the reviews for full disclosure.
The width of the cup is 6.125”, the height 10.25”, wing 5.75” and the gore 3.88” high and .9” wide.
As for fit, I must first note that I chose my test sizes based on my index sizes for Comexim and Ewa, and not directly with my measurements and the Nazeli size chart. I also chose to order 3 of the 5 in a 26 (55) band since I noticed the models were all wearing the bras on the tightest hook-set. That being said, my bust measurement is 42” (106.75cm) with a comfy snug underbust of 25.5” (64.77cm) and Nazeli size chart for the 55R is 104-106cm, and the 60P=107-109cm, so I was not far off from the suggested size. To compare, in Ewa I wear 60KK-L which is labeled as 109-111.5cm, and in Comexim I wear 60Q=104-106cm.
Point blank, without any doubt, the cups are too big. Really huge. We are talking at least 2-3 cups too big, and I am at or near my high tide for the month, so there is no “maybe they’ll fit in 2 weeks” situation, as in two weeks I should be smaller in the bust.
The fit issue doesn’t end there, as the gore is too wide set, the wing too tall, and with the cups being so large, the wires do wrap too far around the body. All around this bra was a fit fail, except that the band was comfortable on the tightest hook-set, haha. There is no way of salvaging the fit, even if my breasts grew. This bra would have been too large even last month when my breasts went through their month of wild swelling.
Since the max depth on this is 18” and my breasts have a 16” perimeter for my larger and 15.25” for my smaller, it really was no shocker that the cups were too big.
Aside from the singular depth measurement, the cups in this range are overall more spacious, and clearly use a different scaling than is used in the lower cup ranges, based on the other reviews so far.
I personally will not be trying another Nazeli bra, as I wouldn’t even know where to begin with not only the size, but also customizations needed to fix the other fit fails, such as the gore width and wing height.
I asked Magda at Bras4You.com order these for me and the other Bratabase members. It was a company she was not familiar with and had no prior experience and placed the order for us out of a courtesy. For that I am thankful, as she is wonderful in her willingness to go above and beyond for her customers. Obviously the fit fails are of no reflection on her or her customer service, but instead with the scaling issues at Nazeli.
I feel they did not do enough “Beta testing” with models of various sizes to refine their scaling within their range, and most likely bit off more than they could chew with their expanded size range. They really should have started with a smaller range, worked on perfecting that range, and then slowly added more sizes, checking the fit along the way. Hopefully with time, they can work through these sizing issues and be able to put out a more consistent and reliable bra line. Read more 911 more words
That is so pretty, I am sorry that this one is so bad. It really looks like it wasn't even tested on a real person at all.
Is that wire going all the way to your back?
brasaremean It really does look like that to me too. Looks like Curvy Kate wires.
Agreed Sovavosi, and damn near brasaremean, haha. It's like my UK bra nightmares have invaded my Poland treasure palace. Why?!? Polish bras are my happy place and my safety zone......No UK fit issues are allowed!
The sad thing, as bad as this looks, it is still not the worst fitting one I received......
I still have 3 more to post, 😬😖😬😖
Oh god *shudder*
How's the Safiya though?
Comexim is my hero at the moment, as both bras fit beautifully. It's a good thing they came yesterday or I think I would have cried about these Nazeli ones. :'(
*hugs* at least the comexim worked out (side note safiya is really pretty)
It really is!! I love it. :-)
Safiya is beautiful, super sad mine no longer fits!
Sorry honey. :-( But you could order it again! It's beauty is worth the price tag for sure! :-)
I can't, comexim gives me a headache with so close yet so far fits!
I still want to try Safiya too... so scared it will be too tall.
Mine is only 8.5" tall so yours should be a safe height.
This is really beautiful. I'm sorry the fit is so bad. :(
The lace detailing is really spectacular. It's devesating that it is a nightmare fit. They really need to hire Bratabase users as testers
They need someone, that's for sure! The bra itself is beautiful, and the quality (aside from the sharpie label) is great. It's the fit and scaling factors that they fail to succeed at. :-/
Waaaaahhhhhh. I'm so sad. I had high hopes for this brand because the styles are so pretty. Such a fail. It's pretty (and my wide set girls would love that gore) but those wires tho :/
So sad for you.
AprilGoulding Me too! I remained positive up until I measured them, haha. O.o
The bras really are gorgeous and well made, and I know they offer customizations, but where to begin with the sizing? I am clueless which makes it impossible to know what size I would be. I am at a loss since the whole cup is so much larger, not just the apex singular depth measurement.
@Calluna I was sad too! Luckily my Comexim order that arrived the same day was a hit, so it cushioned the blow for this miss.
I am not used to getting cups that are too big. I don't handle it too well.... 😄😖😬😄 But I'm over it now! :-D
MamaPagan re: "I am not used to getting cups that are too big"
When I looked at the pics, I thought, "omg. Her boobies look so small in that bra! Wtf? Her boobies never look small!"
Lol
I know! I feel like a little girl playong dress up and wearing mommy's bras! 😖😖😖
Ah geez, those cups are HUGE! That must have been weird as heck for you, lol! What a shame, too; it's SUCH a pretty bra. :(
MamaPagan I read your reviews about Nazeli's bra and here are my thoughts. As for the size number on the label, I also think that they don't have a larger size, so they re-size from I to P or R. You are quite right, it looks tacky and can disturb some. When it comes to size, I think that they have no experience and what is connected with it have not made many tests and trials. That's why your ordered sizes were too big, big. It is strange because all other sizes ordered turned out to be too small. But as I wrote earlier. It seems to me that they did not have anybody to try to size, construction, design of each bra model. I am very sorry that none of these bras fit. :( I would like to help you somehow, but how?
Thank you Magda, but I am not sure what you could do either.
I do appreciate your offering to assist, and I really do appreciate you going out of your way to set up the Nazeli account to ordering these for me and the others! The fit fails are not a reflection of you or your excellent customer service. You are awesome!
Nazeli has potential, but definitely needs to refine their sizing and scaling glitches before they can succeed for sure.
Lola Tulipan is a padded half cup, very much like Ewa’s CHP style with two vertical seams, but it doesn’t come with cookie pockets or cookies. It does have a strange crescent material on the outer section of the cup on the inside, like one of those side slings, which I found peculiar in this style of bra.
The quality of the materials does appear exceptional, especially for the price, and it is very well made. I did experience an oddity with mine due to the size, as they chose to use a 55I label and a sharpie to make the “I” into an R, and I ...can only assume it’s due to them not having the 55R label on hand. Since I ordered 3 55R and 2 60P, I had this done on all 5 of my bras (the sharpie method) which did not work so well as it is smeared on half of the bras, and altogether just has a tacky look to it. I realize that “standard” sizes would not experience this, but the larger cup sizes will. If you are like me, you will be very bothered by this, so it is worth noting. As I like proper labels on my bras, this does bother me more than it really should, haha.
Now for measurements!
All measurements are taken prior to trying the bra on to insure no figure is obscured by the body. I also take all flat measurements before taking the stretched cup then band measurements for the same reason.
The band measures 22.5” and stretches to a max of 28”. It has 3 hooks and 3 rows of eye loops. This makes this bra more functionally a 28 band than a 26 band.
Cup Depth as measured by: 1 Hovering the cup between the knees, then placing the tape measure into the cups without any resistance. This measurement is: 14” 2 Placing the cup over the knee and stretching it similar to what a breast would, to the maximum resistance. This measurement is: 16.5”
I feel these two figures give you a general idea of the minimum and maximum depth that the cup can accommodate, just like the flat and stretched band measurements do with bands. Since Bratabase only has one cup field, I enter the larger of the two, as it’s this larger number that determines if a cup is going to fit me or not since I am on the max end of the cup scale, but do realize that some may need the lower number to determine fit for their needs, so I will always include both figures in the reviews for full disclosure.
As for the other measurements, the cup width was 6” with a height of 8.75”, and the wing was 6.375” (seriously), and the gore was 3.375” tall and 0.75” wide.
As for fit, This statement will be like a broken record on all my Nazeli reviews: epic fit fail. While this one was closest to my measurements, the construction and spaciousness of the cup made it still too large by 1-2 cups, if not more. To put it into perspective I included a few photos in which I put 5 Ewa S style cookies into my Right cup (left cup no cookies) as well as several with no cookies in. The band felt comfortable on the tightest hook-set, but that was the only positive thing in regards to fit. I should be near or at high tide, making this the fullest point of the month for me, so the fit would not improve without a *lot* of new breast growth.
Consolidated disclaimer for all my Nazeli reviews: While each Band cup combo can experience different scaling, unfortunately in my range their scaling is obscenely wonky. My bust is 42” (106.75cm) and I ordered 55R and 60P (26:17 & 28:16) which would be my normal index range size. Nazeli size chart puts the cms for 55R=104-106 and 60P=107-109. In Ewa I wear 60KK-L which is labeled as 109-111.5cm and in Comexim I wear 60Q=104-106. Read more 574 more words
Oh dear. What else can I really say when every single bra review is disastrous, yikes! What a shame that this company isn't able to provide a new bra option. I'm sorry that none worked for you after such a long wait MamaPagan.
On the other hand, *should* that beast growth happen, you're set.
Total typo btw, saying 'beast'. Obv I meant breast
Beast mode breasts!
Haha, yeah, even if my breasts became basketball sized beasts, these bras would not work due to the wide gores and tall wings.....
Sorry to hear it doesn't fit! Maybe if you tried it a couple of cup sizes down?
Those wings 😶 they'll give me nightmares. I can maybe handle wide gores..but high wings..noooo..
It's a real bummer they didn't work though :/
It's okay JulieCS . While a few cup sizes down *may* provide a better cup fit, it wouldn't resolve the other fit issues like the gore and wing. Plus, whose to say that the cup scaling in a 55O or so would be the same as this. Somewhere along the line it goes from being to small in comparison in size to being way too big. But hey, that means there is bound to be that cup size "sweet" spot where the cups actually fit as expected! ! :-D
In the stock photo the gore doesn't look near as wide...
I know. .... :-/
Well, it looks like it is the least bad one, but...
Lily Soft in 55R Lily is an unpadded full cup bra in a lavender-blue colored lace. While the material does have a decent about of give to it, the cups do not have any stretch lace or tulle on them. Think Ewa SM style bra but with a bit more flexibility. Within this review, there will be points that are a direct copy and paste from the other Nazeli bra reviewss, simply because I am lazy and the information is identical for the multiple bras. https://d28qt14g3opchh.cloudfront.net/smileys/icon_wink.gif" alt=";-)" />
The quality of the materials does appear exceptional, especially for the price, and it is very well made. ...I did experience an oddity with mine due to the size, as they chose to use a 55I label and a sharpie to make the “I” into an R, and I can only assume it’s due to them not having the 55R label on hand. Since I ordered 3 55R and 2 60P, I had this done on all 5 of my bras (the sharpie method) which did not work so well as it is smeared on half of the bras, and altogether just has a tacky look to it. I realize that “standard” sizes would not experience this, but the larger cup sizes will. If you are like me, you will be very bothered by this, so it is worth noting. As I like proper labels on my bras, this does bother me more than it really should, haha.
For the measurements:
All measurements are taken prior to trying the bra on to insure no figure is obscured by the body. I also take all flat measurements before taking the stretched cup then band measurements for the same reason.
The band measures 24” and stretches to a max of 30”. It has 3 hooks and 3 rows of eye loops. This bra is better suited as a 30 band and not the 26 band it is being sold as.
Cup Depth as measured by: 1 Hovering the cup between the knees, then placing the tape measure into the cups without any resistance. This measurement is: 15.25” 2 Placing the cup over the knee and stretching it similar to what a breast would, to the maximum resistance. This measurement is: 18.5”
I feel these two figures give you a general idea of the minimum and maximum depth that the cup can accommodate, just like the flat and stretched band measurements do with bands. Since Bratabase only has one cup field, I enter the larger of the two, as it’s this larger number that determines if a cup is going to fit me or not since I am on the max end of the cup scale, but do realize that some may need the lower number to determine fit for their needs, so I will always include both figures in the reviews for full disclosure.
As for the remaining measurements, the cup width is 6.375”, height 10.5”, with a 5.5” wing and a gore of 4.125” tall and 0.88” wide.
Now for the fit, We shall call this one the Dolly Parton bra, as I think she’s the only person that would have the measurements to actually fit this one. As I am sure you all can tell, there is no way my 16” breasts are going to fill the 18.5” round cup in any way, shape, or form. So yes, this one is 2-3 cups too large, if not more. This one by far was the largest of them all, and not really comparable to the other two soft full cup bras I ordered, making the brand unreliable in fit. I should be near or at high tide, so this is the fullest point of the month for me, so the fit would not improve without a massive amount of new growth.
Aside from the insanely large cup, the gore is also too wide set, the wires too wide as well, with the wing being too tall, and the band be way too loose even on the tightest hook-set. I am swimming in the bra, or should I say that I am drowning in it? Seriously though, I feel that the scaling that Nazeli has for the larger cup ranges is grossly overestimated, and that like many companies, they did not get actual women within this range to test these bras, and instead made the cups based on misguided assumptions, making it a fail.
The overall cup is far more spacious and rounded than my breasts could fill. To put it into perspective, I have done a photo side by side compare with my Ewa BM Antonina 60KK bra. In this comparison, it’s like looking at the Hulk vs Bruce Banner size wise. It is a 26:17 vs 28:16 comparison, so logically the cup volume should be nearly identical. The compare photos can be found at the bottom of the page here:
Consolidated disclaimer for all my Nazeli reviews: While each Band cup combo can experience different scaling, unfortunately in my range their scaling is obscenely wonky. My bust is 42” (106.75cm) and I ordered 55R and 60P (26:17 & 28:16) which would be my normal index range size. Nazeli size chart puts the cms for 55R=104-106 and 60P=107-109. In Ewa I wear 60KK-L which is labeled as 109-111.5cm and in Comexim I wear 60Q=104-106. Read more 797 more words
Mona Soft in 60P Mona is a sheer full cup bra with beautiful embroidery on the cups in a gold and blue color. Photos do not do this one justice, as it is simply gorgeous. While the material does have a decent about of give to it, the cups do not have any stretch lace or tulle on them. Think Ewa SM style bra but with a bit more flexibility.
The quality of the materials does appear exceptional, especially for the price, and it is very well made. I did experience an oddity with mine due to the size, as they chose to use a 60I label and a ...sharpie to make the “I” into a P, and I can only assume it’s due to them not having the 60P label on hand. Since I ordered 3 55R and 2 60P, I had this done on all 5 of my bras (the sharpie method) which did not work so well as it is smeared on half of the bras, and altogether just has a tacky look to it. I realize that “standard” sizes would not experience this, but the larger cup sizes will. If you are like me, you will be very bothered by this, so it is worth noting. As I like proper labels on my bras, this does bother me more than it really should, haha.
In regards to measurements:
All measurements are taken prior to trying the bra on to insure no figure is obscured by the body. I also take all flat measurements before taking the stretched cup then band measurements for the same reason.
The band measures 23.5” and stretches to a max of 27.75”. It has 3 hooks and 3 rows of eye loops.
Cup Depth as measured by: 1 Hovering the cup between the knees, then placing the tape measure into the cups without any resistance. This measurement is: 15” 2 Placing the cup over the knee and stretching it similar to what a breast would, to the maximum resistance. This measurement is: 18”
I feel these two figures give you a general idea of the minimum and maximum depth that the cup can accommodate, just like the flat and stretched band measurements do with bands. Since Bratabase only has one cup field, I enter the larger of the two, as it’s this larger number that determines if a cup is going to fit me or not since I am on the max end of the cup scale, but do realize that some may need the lower number to determine fit for their needs, so I will always include both figures in the reviews for full disclosure.
The remaining measurements are cup width 6.38” and height 10.5”, wing 6”, with the gore being 3.88” tall and 0.75” wide.
As for fit, Yes, this one is another fit fail. The cups are 1-2 (maybe even 3) cups too large. The gore is too wide set, the wing too tall, the cups too wide, and the straps do not adjust short enough. The only thing that did fit on this bra is the band, which was comfy loose feeling in the tightest hook-set. I should be near or at high tide, so this is the fullest point of the month for me, so the fit would not improve without a lot of new growth.
The overall cup is far more spacious and rounded than my breasts could fill. To put it into perspective, I have done a photo “bra- in -bra” compare with my Comexim Chevron 60Q bra. In this comparison, you can see that the Nazeli Mona is altogether more rounded, by several inches. It is a 28:17 (60Q) vs 28:16 (60P) comparison, so the cup volume should actually larger in the Comexim by comparison. See the photos at the bottom for the compare here:
Consolidated disclaimer for all my Nazeli reviews: While each Band cup combo can experience different scaling, unfortunately in my range their scaling is obscenely wonky. My bust is 42” (106.75cm) and I ordered 55R and 60P (26:17 & 28:16) which would be my normal index range size. Nazeli size chart puts the cms for 55R=104-106 and 60P=107-109. In Ewa I wear 60KK-L which is labeled as 109-111.5cm and in Comexim I wear 60Q=104-106. Read more 614 more words
I think you should send all your photos to Nazeli. Maybe they could use them to improve their patterns?
It's possible. Magda could share them and communicate, but it does solve the issue with the lower cup range scaling being opposite and too small. They will need a lot more than a few photos to fix the scaling issues....
Edit * it should read "does not solve the issue...."
This bra makes me sad. It's so pretty and so... wrong.
I agree. This one was my biggest disappointment as it is so beautiful. If I was tempted to try another, it would be this one for sure.
This is so beautiful, and such a unique embroidery..so sad that it's so far from fitting :(
My husband (who was a real jerk when these Nazeli's came in) just suggested we sit down together and brainstorm on how to alter them to fit....... Now I remember why I love him. 💙
Does this brand have a webpage? I can´t find on google. I only found a fb page. The name is a bit ... weird :)
You can also PM MagdaBras4you and ask for the Nazeli PDF Catalog which has additional models listed. She was able to order them for me (and several others here on BtB) and she is awesome!
My Nazeli order arrived! I was really excited to try this bra because of the interesting design, but unfortunately the fit is a complete fail on me https://d28qt14g3opchh.cloudfront.net/smileys/icon_sad.gif" alt=":(" />
A bit about my shape - short roots, even fullness, I need space for inner fullness in the cups, but not a too narrow gore. I need a lot of immediate projection and average to narrow cups.
But a bit about the quality and materials. First off, the two bras came in a fancy Nazeli branded box, the size of a shoe box and wrapped in branded paper, which was a nice touch. The quality ...of the materials looks quite good, similar to mid-range brands such as Freya. The lace feels a bit cheap and smells slightly plasticky, but it's not scratchy. The knit fabric on the band and on the cups feels nice and soft. The construction is neat without any loose threads. One small thing I don't really like about the materials is that there's a slight difference in colour between the black lace and the black knit fabric. The wires are soft, and the wire is shorter than the wire channel, there are 2.5cm of empty space in the wire channel. The wires also squeak a little when handling the bra. The design element that I liked about this bra are the lace sleeves. These are basically pieces of lace that connect to the bottom of the gore in front and to the piece where the hooks and eyes attach to the band in the back. The little sleeves look really pretty on, and they fit very well. They are the right length on me - I have the straps extended almost to the maximum. The lace has a little bit of vertical stretch, but there's no way to adjust the length of the sleeves.
The fit of the cups is quite terrible on me unfortunately. The cups are wide, and although I don't need super narrow wires they are too wide for me. The wing is also very tall and there is too much material between the wing and the strap. This together with the straps being too wide set, results in the bra cutting into my arms. The wing being too high is a usual complaint for me, but the straps being too wide is very rare, as I have wide shoulders and usually straps are okay on me even when they're often too wide on others (like in Gorsenia bras). However, one nice thing about the wing is that the bottom of the band goes all the way to the bottom of the wire, which is quite nice because this makes the wing measurement very accurate for the height of the wire. The cups are made from three pieces - two bottom pieces which are padded, and the top piece which is non stretch lace. It's a bit difficult to show this in the pictures, but the cups are very closed off. This would not work for any top fullness, but might work for bottom fullness. The cup is even further closed off with a piece of not too soft elastic. The padding is relatively stiff (stiffer than Comexim for example). The cup depth measurement I took by just placing the measuring tape inside the cup, and the measurement stretched over the knee is 34cm. The gore is quite wide and the cups don't have enough room for inner fullness. The wires are soft and the gore floats. The bottom of the cup is shallow and doesn't have enough immediate projection for me, so after putting on the bra the cup immediately slides down and the bottom of the cup collapses. The shape this bra gives me is pointy and downwards facing, so sadly this doesn't work. One good thing is that the little lace sleeves hide some of the fit and shape issues.
The shape mismatch made me think at first that the cups were too large, but the size is actually quite right. I got to this size by starting from the size chart and then sister sizing down in the band. This I would do in all Polish brands, as they seem to consider that a 35-36in underbust should translate to a band size 90-95, which in practice is much too large for me. Regarding the size, for comparison, my usual go-to UK size is 36GG, in Comexim I wear 75M/80L, and in Gorsenia 75J/80I. The band is quite stretchy, so I'd recommend to size down in the band. Read more 650 more words
Bummer. Sounds like this brand is wide and shallow, based on brasaremean’s review also. Disappointing.
I feel awful for ever bringing it up :( I thought maybe mine was an exception but this is really discouraging.
At least you two didn't order 5 of them. O.o Hopefully mine will fare a bit better, though I am not hopeful at this point.... My data will help solidify the brand assessment and cover an additional two bands at least.....
Maybe for different shapes and in different size ranges the fit is different, you never know until you try ;) For example, some brands that are very loved on Btb like EM don't fit me at all, but a lot of other people love them, so I think there's still hope :)
Quite true. I did order 3 soft cups in two sizes, as well as the padded half cup and a semi soft for variety. The purpose was to experiment anyway, regardless of fit. I just didn't anticipate at that time my breasts would change and I'd suddenly be without any fitting bras, haha, so now fit is more of a priority.
JulieCS I am glad that you have been delivering the parcel. I'm just sorry that bras don't suit you.:-( I admit that this brand of bras is also "new" to me. I thank you very much for a very detailed description. Other girls will have your opinion in mind. This is how my experience shows, each brand of bras differs from each other. Thank you again.
This is the second bra from Nazeli that I'm trying on, and this one would be much closer to fitting if the size was right.
The part that I was quite surprised about is that this bra is so significantly too small (at least two cup sizes too small if not more), while the semi-soft in size 80J (so just one cup size larger) is the right size but almost too large. The cup depth in the semi-soft is 32.5cm while this one is 28cm - 4.5cm is a large difference for one cup size difference. All the measurements are much smaller for this model - the wire, ...wing, width, stretched band, even the gore width, and even placed side to side they're very different. I'm wondering if it's a sizing inconsistency or if the sizes are so different for the different cuts. On the topic of sizing, my usual sizes are 36GG UK, 75M/80L Comexim, 75J/80I Gorsenia. In this model, I would probably need an 80K. However, a larger size would probably increase also the other elements that in this size are ok for me: the cup width, the wing height, the gore height, the cup height, and how wide set the straps are. I'd just need more cup depth and the rest kept the same and this would fit! I got to this size by starting from the size chart and then sister sizing down in the band. This I would do in all Polish brands, as they seem to consider that a 35-36in underbust needs a band size 90-95, which in practice is much too large for me. The cup size was, according to the size chart, between 80I and 80J. However, it's very difficult for a size chart to work with just two measurements.
A bit about my shape - short roots, even fullness, and I need a cup that has enough room for some inner fullness although not a particularly narrow gore. I need a lot of immediate projection and prefer a round shape.
The materials are quite good quality, and the construction is neat with just a few loose threads. The cup construction is a three part half cup, and it gives a round and minimised shape. The bottom of the cup has enough immediate projection. The wires are quite soft and a bit squeaky, and the wire is shorter than the wire channel by 1cm. The cup has a side sling and the band has side boning. The band is made from one layer of thick stretchy knit fabric which seems good quality. Read more 321 more words
Thank you for sharing JulieCS. I'm still waiting on mine but not hopeful after brasaremean and your reviews. At least I am better prepared for disappointment. :-/
Maybe you have better luck with yours, MamaPagan, hope they arrive soon and fit well!
Thank you JulieCS. Mine hasn't hit US soil yet, so it won't be until next year at this point. There's always a chance they will fit. :-)
JulieCS I thank you very much for a very detailed description. When I saw this bra I liked it a lot. Your opinion is joyful to me. I recently ordered Roberta Tulipan, but now I'm wondering if I should not take a larger size cup ....
MagdaBras4you please let us know what your experience is as well. :-)
I received this bra from Mamapagan and this is my review of it.
The wires wrap all the way around to my back. The band is not a true 26. I'd say it's closer to a 30. I have it hooked on the tightest hooks and I felt the bra riding up. The wing, again, is painful. It's so high! The cups have too much material again. I'd say I'm 2-3 cups too small for it as well.
Sorry it was a poor fit for you as well. :-( Thank you for adding to the database though. Hopefully the information will be helpful for future members. 💙
It's alright MamaPagan I'm sure it'll help someone eventually :D
This bra may have "fit" me when I was at my largest, probably around a 30M or thereabouts. I was busting out of my 75KK FB but didn't really want to do anything about it. I had a nearly 50cm bust perimeter per Bratabase then, and I could have filled a 47cm cup depth. The scaling is all kinds of wonky though, which is such as shame as it's a really lovely bra to look at.
Wow! That's cool. I used to be able to fit a 75L/75LL when I was at the height of my breastfeeding days haha, so I know what you're saying. The scaling is weird which is such a shame because it is QUITE beautiful!
It's pretty!! It's very red!! The wires are quite soft and pliable, which is not a bad thing it just feels like more of and end of day bra vs an all day bra. The cups are a little deep for me to fill, so I showed it to a fellow seamstress and she is trying it herself for size before I take in the cups to fit my shape https://d28qt14g3opchh.cloudfront.net/smileys/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" />.
Update: My 34d friend turns out to be a 65I woop woop feels like such a win when people realize they aren't wearing the right size and then a lightbulb/great bra show up and tada!!
She says it feels amazing and the perfect balconette bra!!
I got this bra from Mamapagan and this is my review of it.
The wires are so wide, they wrap around to my back. The cups are ridiculous. There is so much excessive material. I'd go so far as saying that I, too, am about 2-3 cups too small for this monster. The wing is painful. I could barely lower my arm while trying to take pictures/assess the fit.
The good thing is that the material is phenomenal. Absolutely stellar quality. I loved how soft it was against my skin, but the fit itself was disastrous.
Aw man, that is such a bummer
Sorry it didn't work work out ☹️. (The colour is gorgeous though).
60 that stretches to 80! Yikes! That's a lot of stretch in that band.