| Measurement | Cm |
|---|---|
| Search by measurements | |
| Fits ribcage | 86.2 |
| B. perimeter | 36.7 |
| Stretched Band | 87.2 |
| Band Length | 72.7 |
| Cup width | 16.2 |
| Cup depth | 31.3 |
| Wire length | 33.8 |
| Cup height | 22.1 |
| Cup separation | 2.0 |
| Gore height | 9.4 |
| Wing height | 11.3 |
| Strap width | 1.9 |
| Hooks | 3 |
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Didn't fit
This bra fits okay. It cuts higher than I'd like under my armpits. I also prefer 3 hooks and this only has 2. It gives my breasts an odd angular shape from top down. The cups are deep enough and don't not cut into my upper breast tissue.
I am close set, center and top full, projected, wide roots.
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Updated on Oct 16, 2023 Flag this
This bra is very similar to Elomi Tia which is as close to a good fit as I can get with narrow roots, FOB. The only issue I have is that it's pinching in my upper armpit area.
34:10
34GG
Panache
Envy Balconnet Bra (7285)
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Updated on May 10, 2021 Flag this
I am!
I’m currently wearing a 34GG in Elomi plunge bras, it’s not perfect but it’s all I can find. I have spillage in the left (larger) and right but not as much. 34H was too large in the wires. I’ll try the extender suggestion. I think a problem is that I don’t fill up the cup at the bottom so the volume is already an issue no matter the bra because of the shape of my breasts and narrow rib cage//frame.
Didn't fit
don't like the material
Updated on Apr 02, 2023 Flag this
Didn't fit
This bra fit me very similarly to the other panache bras. Center gore too high, underwire too wide and too high on the side causing armpit uncomfort. It feels like even more underwire than the Andorra I also noticed more room on the side on this one, which makes me think I may just need to go for a smaller cup size in Panache bras. I did feel very supported, I especially liked the support from the panel on the side. In that aspect it's my favorite of the Panache's I've tried. I'll likely try this in one cup size down next.
Beautiful color, some snags on the lace.
Orchid colorway
Updated on Jun 01, 2022 Flag this
Didn't fit
I really love how this Panache Envy fits at the top of cup, no quadding, no gaping. However it's a bit pointy for me. I also need a lot more projection at the wire. The gore tacks great. It does come too high up my sides but I do have a short torso.
Black colorway
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Updated on Dec 13, 2020 Flag this
So like I mentioned on reddit (hi!) I had an extremely similar look while wearing this bra in 36J. I was skeptical and then shocked when I tried on the 36HH and found it fit me way better. It still slid down my IMF, but it was probably in my top 3 (until I found bras that actually fit today). In the 36HH, I filled out the bra much better and had a much fuller, rounder shape. I don't think a 36H or whatever would actually work for me, but it's weird (and useful to know, I guess) how different sizing and fit can be when you're not a mainstream shape/position!
(I also don't think this would fully work for you in a smaller cup size, but who knows?)
Adler613 - I was revisiting this one because I'm now a different size (30G by measurements) and looking for bras to try/buy. I was trying to remember what I didn't love and your comment is SO helpful. I might give it a try in a 30FF. I've learned that my tissue is so soft that it really needs some compression in order to shape and fit how I prefer. In fact, that might have worked originally, as you suggested!!!
Did you ever give this a try? I'd love to hear how bras are working for you these days! I finally found my unicorn bra—I just needed to size down one more cup, and BAM! I was so happy I cried.
Didn't fit
This bra gives a great shape and feels supportive. I am very short waisted with narrow, sloping shoulders, which means the sides of the bra dig in by my armpits and the straps are always on the cusp of falling down. The cups are quite wide for me (digging in if I lean over to pick something up). So close.........
Updated on Dec 29, 2017 Flag this
I wear this bra at least twice a week, but I have a love-hate relationship with it.
When I got fitted at a local store (I told the whole saga in my review of 34GG - Panache » Clara Full Cup Bra (7255) ), they told me I was a 32HH in Panache bras. After some trial and error, I found the aforementioned Clara fit me well in a 34GG. I wanted to try the Envy I'd heard so many good things about, so I found a brand new 34GG Envy on eBay for cheap. I've actually had it for about 2 months, but I couldn't ... really bring myself to write the review until now.
First, this particular bra was, at some point before I got it, professionally converted into a nursing bra. This is actually totally fine with me, as I'm still nursing my 2 kids (and this is why I wear it twice a week despite the issues described below), but I was a bit miffed that it wasn't in the description. However - the straps are too short now! I'm not sure what went wrong during the conversion process, I've converted many bras by hand and never lost that much strap length... but even with my super short torso I can't make the straps long enough. They're close, but I could use maybe 1" more.
Next, there is an issue going on in the cups that I'm not 100% sure about. I think (and this is really just a guess) the cup might be too large. Now, the cup is filled perfectly, the stretch lace is flat across the top of my breast, it's all perfect... except the apex. It's like I get in-cup quadding, but only at a very specific spot at the seam junction/apex. Really it just makes giant wrinkles across my nipples. I'm sure the description sounds like the cup might just have more projection at the apex than my breast does, but it's not quite like that; it's very tough to describe. It almost looks like something is "off" with the tension in that spot, and for a few weeks I assumed it had something to do with the short strap/conversion issue. I do have a 34G Envy en route to me, so I should know within a few days if a smaller cup really helps this issue or not.
I'm in the process of changing the sling part of the nursing bra conversion; the original conversion used beige cotton in a crescent shape sewn into the actual mesh at the edge of the cup, which was affecting the depth/projection I get there. I am replacing that sling with just a piece of elastic sewn into the edge of the underwire channel, as this is the kind of sling I prefer for my nursing bras and it will hopefully fix some of the strange shape issues I'm getting.
I'll also say I'm a bit disappointed in the looks of this particular Panache bra. Now that I've found Bras That Fit, I find myself less willing to settle for bras I don't find beautiful, and I'm just not sold on this one. It's not a very pretty bra, to me, especially compared to my Panache Clara (linked above). The houndstooth pattern is too subtle and the floral is too matronly and the combo just looks like a hot mess to me. I'd overlook it if this gave me a great shape under clothes, but it doesn't, so at the moment the only reason I keep it around is to have an underwired nursing bra for the weekends.
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Beige colorway
Updated on Oct 27, 2016 Flag this
Didn't fit
I've never tried on a soft cup before, I love the feel and freedom of it. I love how sexy it looks. I tried on the 36FF and i just looked disgusting in it. I also got the same style but in a size 34GG and it fit me way better than the 36FF. What I don't like is the shape I wanted a more round shape. I feel the side view is slightly pointy and I'm not a big fan of it. I wish it would of given me more of a lift it's what I desire the most in a bra, lift and support. I didn't ... feel either of these. Everytime I was busy doing something I had an urge to keep pulling at the lace because I felt my breast were too heavy and kept riding the lace/cup down. It gave me a slight, practically minimal, quadboob. The band looked like it was fine but I felt as if it moved. I would prefer it tighter, except I'll get back fat. The gore would sit flat on my sternum, if I did not move. Once I started moving it would ever so slightly move half and inch onto my right breast which is a tiny bit bigger. It wasn't uncomfortable but I've never had a gore ever never ever ever sit flat on my sternum. I don't even have closed set breasts, so I don't understand why it would do this. I'm guessing maybe the cups are a tad too small. Another thing I noticed was that the bottom of the cup was not fully filled with breast nor the sides. I'm assuming I don't have enough breast on my side to fill that out. This was purchased as a trial and error, since I'm still looking for my bra measurements.
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Envy full cup Black colorway
Updated on Dec 03, 2015 Flag this
i suggest doing a "fit request" with these pics :)
then others can suggest bras that might fit more to you liking :)
Do a fit request. I think there's probably a key fit factor you're still missing, especially if you still haven't been able to find a bra that at least tacks at the center--that suggests you're quite far off from optimal size and shape. I also think the Envy looks suspiciously unsupportive in your photos when that is not at all one of the typical issues for this bra in the correct size.
I finally got a chance to try this bra on a trip to Nordstrom. The bra is very comfortable and feels good on. The houndstooth print is subtle. The stretch lace on top is nice, but not as generous in stretch as the Jasmine.
Eta: i ended up buying this bra; it gives me the best fit that I have gotten in a long time.
Updated on Oct 01, 2015 Flag this
Didn't fit
Didn't write a review
Added on Jan 27, 2015
I'm not sure if you're still here, but all of your bras are too big. You should try a 32 band and f-FF-G cup.
Especially in the ewa Michalak bras you've tried. You need a couple band sizes down for sure.
Get an extender if you don't like tight bras. I'm thinking a 70F-75FF in Em. Maybe even a 65FF-G. I'm not very good at telling from pictures how big someone is but I do know your bras are band sizes too big.
Once you figure out your band size, then worry about the cup size.
I find bratabase bra recommendations to be very accurate as long as measurements are taken correctly