I first had this bra in a 30H, and I loved how snug the wires were on my IMF and didn't poke into my armpits, but when I gained a little weight (and a whole cup size because go figure), I discovered that the 30HH has underwires that are MUCH wider and taller than the 30H. I'm stuck in this awkward place where I need the wires on the 30H, but the cup depth of the 30HH. I unfortunately can't accurately measure them now because I've had them so long.
Best fit for me so far in Panache (I've tried almost 50 bras, including Panache & Cleo's in the last 2 months - I'm dead serious about finding a good bra!) but greatly lacking in comfort and only moderately rounded for my shape.
I vary b/t 28 & 30, the band was loose enough to wear on the 3rd hook right out of the box.
Had some firsts - 1) band beneath the wires constantly folded under and chafed my skin - 2) rigid, fully adjustable straps were painful, chafing & dug in from the start, despite reasonable support from the band!
Very strange. By far the most ...uncomfortable Panache bra I've tried. Oddly, the pink version, which I tried in a 30H, didn't have any of these issues, so maybe it's just this one bra? Or the black colorway? I may try the 28JJ in PINK....
The cup shape is decent for FoT's like me, but only gave a rounded shape when I fully scooped & swooped and pulled the elastic lace up and over the tops of my breasts. After walking around a bit, the lace retreated back down the cups, giving that oh-so-desirable elf slipper/quaddy look. Boo. If I do go a band size down and a cup size up, I'm pretty concerned that the wires will widen, and this bra was already on the edge of too wide for me.
So appreciate any advice re: this bra, and sizing down the band & up the cup - I'm pretty desperate.
Also, I've noticed that no matter how well I fill or overfill the cups on most bras, I still have a gap where the strap meets the cup - Is this due to my very narrow shoulders or is this a "root" thing? (Haven't quite figured out the whole root thing yet.. I also feel like my boobs & bra should sit a couple of inches higher than they do...like the underwire should be sitting higher even when it's tight enough... )
Maybe I should open a fitting request.... lol Read more 242 more words
or at the very least post some pics. but yes, a fit request is always good
also, esp considering your name - have you tried Comexim? or Ewa Michalak?
Hi! The 2 pics above are of me in this bra... and no, I haven't tried Comexim or EM or the other Polish brands yet. I just created my account yesterday, after trying pretty much all the UK & US bras around my size and sizing out of the ones that worked for my shape. :( I'm Thinking Anna Pardal first....
i dont think they'd been 'approved' when I posted lol. I mostly size out of comexim (except basic) and I dont think they'd really work for me, but i'm waiting for my 3rd EM
I wonder if a half cup would help w the digging in? The cups look high on you. I love that blue color tho
Good luck with your EM! :) And you're absolutely right about the half cups - they are the only shape that works for me, and I can't find any in my size +/- 30HH-J/28J-JJ except the CK & Flirtelle kind that splay me east-to-west and have waaaay too much wire for my frame. that's why I'm going Polish! lol
Yeah this is too small for you. When you say you don't like wide wires is this because they actually cause pain, or because you've read that narrow boobs require narrow wires? If all the other stars align, it is usually very possible to get a good fit despite too-wide wires as long as they don't hit you in a bad spot and cause pain.
wendybien My issue w/ wide wires is that they usually come w/wider cups which always chafe the side of my boob and underarm. That, and just needing a more upfront, lifted shape for comfort & style, which I don't get when the wires don't push me upwards and to the middle. If I found a bra that got it done w/wide wires, I'd buy 100 and call it a day! :) Any recs?
Floris is my fave, but it doesnt come in a 28 band. (Most of the 32J pics are me lol)
dbmamaz Tks for the tip all the same! I'm looking at altering the band on bras that almost fit, so Floris might end up being an option. Glad you found a go-to!
So, chafing like that is not strictly down to the width of the cup. That happens when the cup is too tall at the side AND extends out below the arm. Even women with wide roots who need the extra cup width can have this problem.
The way to control for this when you are searching here on Bratabase is to set appropriate numbers for "Wing Height" and "Wire Length." If these are set low then you will get bras that have low sides and shouldn't bother your underarms.
The other thing you need in a bra would seem to be room for center fullness, so once you've searched with the above criteria then you can cross-reference with the reviews to see which ones are generously built near the gore.
wendybien Ok! I'm glad to know about wire length - it does make sense as a consideration. I had been trying to avoid chafey bras just by looking @ wing height. Re: center fullness, when you say "generously built near the gore" does that refer to how deep or full the cups are?
Yes you need them to have lots of depth near the gore to accommodate inner fullness.
This bra is pretty, it laid flat under clothes despite the rippling on the top of the cups. The cups fit pretty well except for reaching the entire way under my arm almost to my back, thus functioning as part of the band for my breasts. The sides of the cup rippled slightly since there is no breast tissue in them. My breasts do not fill the bottom of the cup and I have a hard time getting the underwires up to my breast tissue because they are fuller on top and do not drop the whole way down since they are firm. The ...gore is the right width, it's just entirely too high and is actually pulled to one side (my right) just slightly.
This bra just wasn't the right height in the cups for me... It comes up entirely too far to not show under clothing, except for tshirts.
The fact that the underwires go so far back on my ribcage was a dealbreaker for me on this bra. It made my arms numb after only an hour. Read more 81 more words
While this bra “fits” it is definitely not one I would have bought had I tried it on in person instead of purchasing online. The wires extend all the way to the back of my armpit. I typically fit the narrow wires of polish bras best so this really doesn’t suit my shape. The gore digs in and is way too tall. It comes up higher than my nipples! As someone with very close set breasts and needs to overlap wires typically, my tissue pushes one wire up and away while the other digs in. Needs much more immediate projection and keeps scooting out and down from my ...imf. The bra itself is beautiful and I love the style and lace. So far the straps have stayed on my very narrow shoulders well, so at least that’s a plus. I’m so bummed this doesn’t fit my shape, but I will be wearing it until some of the other bras I have ordered arrive. It did help me to find what size in panache works for me, as I have gained a bit of weight and am quading out of all my bras at the moment. Thankfully I bought this off braswap on Reddit and didn’t pay full price. Update 3 hours into wearing this bra: keeps cutting into my trail of spence, and gore is very uncomfortable. Wires are digging in below my imf as well. Probably not going to last the whole day in this. Read more 137 more words
Got this to sleep/lounge in. This biggest difference, for me, between this and underwire version is the side support isn't as good in the nonwire. Not quite as full coverage and the fabric isn't as firm. Good for moderate support and generally lightweight, in my opinion.
This Jasmine bra is a really unique, pretty colorway. It's a light blue and gray color with floral design on the cups. I love the Jasmine; I would definitely say it's one of my go-tos because the soft, stretchy lace at the top of the cups is so accomodating for full on top shapes. The construction is quality and supportive. Unfortunately, I can no longer wear this after my reduction.
I really like the shape this bra gives me. The band feels snug and the stretch lace is a great help fitting my bigger side more comfortably. My only compliant is I think either the straps are too wide or the cup fabric too high as it dogs uncomfortably into my arm.
This bra was given to me, many thanks to the previous owner. The band is really tight - the tightest I own. I hope it will loosen with wear. The cups are tall and I don't usually do well with tall cups because I can't fill them, but this one is okay. I get a little bit of wrinkling but not enough to do any modifications. The bottom of the cup is very deep. I can't ever get enough projection right at the wire. I can't say it's the prettiest bra, but it might be the body that's wearing it, but I find it very serviceable.
This is the tightest bra band I've tried ever - it's misery without an extender. I have the 32H as well, and that band, while also firm, stretches a bit more reasonably.
Did I mention this bra is misery without an extender?
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I originally ordered this in a 30H. I had some overflow in front and some indention along the seam line at the lace, and so I thought I needed a larger cup, and that it must run small.
I realize now that because the band is so tight that it stretches the underwires wider than it should, pulling the cups too tightly in the front and making them appear smaller than they are. Once I started wearing this with an extender, I realized the HH is larger on me than it should be - but interestingly, the stretch lace still makes it wearable (or perhaps, I ideally need an H.5?)
So, advice - if you're between band sizes even just a smidge, I'd order up.
Very comfortable bra. Do not feel any need to readjust. It fits slightly tighter on my bigger boobie but nothing too major and nothing to worry about since it's not noticeable. Since its not a big size difference, I much rather accommodate the smaller boob than the bigger one, thanks to the stretchy fabric. Since the other way around just give me an odd shape.
A bra so matronly, it feels straight out of a 1950s Sears catalog. I would totally wear this if I was dressing up as a grandmother for Halloween. The lace is itchy and outdated and the long bow on the gore does little else than irritate my skin. I can't.
I mean, it fits? But it's no surprise it was discontinued. This bra gives a whole new meaning to "grandma bra". The second I put it on, my breasts are shoved to either armpit and pointed into bullet shapes. The cut is way too high for anything other than a turtleneck and the design is so matronly, I wouldn't feel comfortable recommending it to anyone under the age of 60. Try it if you must, but be prepared to age yourself about 30 years with it on.
or at the very least post some pics. but yes, a fit request is always good