Bras » Cleo » Kayla Balconnet Bra (9221) » 34J 34:13

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Fits ribcage	85.1
B. perimeter	0.0
Stretched Band	88.5
Band Length	73.3
Cup width	18.2
Cup depth	36.8
Wire length	37.0
Cup height	24.6
Cup separation	2.1
Gore height	10.6
Wing height	13.1
Strap width	1.9
Hooks	2

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Kayla has good projection and uplift, similar to but not as extreme as Jasmine. The band seemed very stretchy - I measure closer to a 36 than a 34 but was easily able to use the second row of hooks here.

I think the wires are slightly below my IMF, but acceptably so. Story of my life right there.

Biggest issues for me are the straps and in cup quadding. Straps were far too wide and kept flopping over. I have narrow shoulders but wear a lot of Panache so I knew what to expect, but I guess Kayla's straps are wider than typical for Panache/Cleo.

I'm slowly trying to understand what in cup quadding is and how to prevent it. So far I have noticed that I do not experience it on similar bras like Envy and Clara, which both have side slings. I DO get in cup quad from Pour Moi St. Tropez, which does not have a side sling but does have "side boning", whatever that is.

Any thoughts on in cup quadding, y'all? Thanks.

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- I get that with Flirtelle and CKs that are a cup size too small. I think it is mostly a shape mismatch thing. I think it has to do with needing more immediate projection than is available. Pour Moi is usually wider in cup width and thus more shallow. Is your tissue fairly soft? Mine is and thus is puddles and find the extra space where ever it possibly can. You might be better with Polish bras. Ewa Michalak is famous for wide set straps, but you could try Gorsenia or Gaia?
  
  Ps side boning means the vertical wire like piece in the side of the band that helps keep the side of the band flat rather than bunched up. The word "boning" comes from the whale bone pieces they used to use in corsets - firm, but flexible. It usually doesn't affect cups. But side slings or sidesupport panels do tend to cut into immediate projection and can thus reduce the amount of room at the bottom of the cup.
- maddy2596 Eek, sorry for the late reply.
  
  My tissue is very soft. I think I do better in cups that are all laminate or have more forgiving stretch lace on top. The two styles I have with side sling, Panache Clara and Envy, have stretch lace so correlation versus causation there. Though, Kayla is fairly similar to those bras without the side sling and DID give me in cup quadding so...
  
  Thanks for...uh, defining boning for me! I could definitely pick out a firmer seam on the side of my St. Tropez, but it didn't feel hard enough to be called boning in my book (oh god, stop talking now). Makes sense that it would be flexible though.
  
  I have a Wellfitting Cats and Ewa BM on the way. I tried two Gorsneia styles recently, and they were really terrible on me. There's front facing pictures of each of them in my profile. I got much worse in cup quadding from both of them.
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I get that with Flirtelle and CKs that are a cup size too small. I think it is mostly a shape mismatch thing. I think it has to do with needing more immediate projection than is available. Pour Moi is usually wider in cup width and thus more shallow. Is your tissue fairly soft? Mine is and thus is puddles and find the extra space where ever it possibly can. You might be better with Polish bras. Ewa Michalak is famous for wide set straps, but you could try Gorsenia or Gaia?

Ps side boning means the vertical wire like piece in the side of the band that helps keep the side of the band flat rather than bunched up. The word "boning" comes from the whale bone pieces they used to use in corsets - firm, but flexible. It usually doesn't affect cups. But side slings or sidesupport panels do tend to cut into immediate projection and can thus reduce the amount of room at the bottom of the cup.

maddy2596 Eek, sorry for the late reply.

My tissue is very soft. I think I do better in cups that are all laminate or have more forgiving stretch lace on top. The two styles I have with side sling, Panache Clara and Envy, have stretch lace so correlation versus causation there. Though, Kayla is fairly similar to those bras without the side sling and DID give me in cup quadding so...

Thanks for...uh, defining boning for me! I could definitely pick out a firmer seam on the side of my St. Tropez, but it didn't feel hard enough to be called boning in my book (oh god, stop talking now). Makes sense that it would be flexible though.

I have a Wellfitting Cats and Ewa BM on the way. I tried two Gorsneia styles recently, and they were really terrible on me. There's front facing pictures of each of them in my profile. I got much worse in cup quadding from both of them.