Bra fitting help » Burgundy boobies - a plungy question

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Ewa Michalak » Pl Burgund (204) » 70H 32:11

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  This bra is wearable, but, I would definitly suggest trying to get your hands on a different size if you can.

  The cups are definitly too small. You get cutting in, and if that ever happens the cups are definitly too small. You also seem to have some slight slippage at your armhole, also suggesting that the cup is too small.

  The measurements also tells me this, you need a cup at about the same deoth a your breast perimeter. The touching higher up is also because of the cups being too small, you don't get lift enough or room enough at that level and your boobs gets smashed together while the push the bras down and east/west.

  I would suggest a 32HH or even a 32J. I do think that a 32J might be too big, but I'm not sure. Have you scooped properly here? I think that if you would pull all your breast tissue from at the arm to the middle of the cups you would have worse cutting in than here.

  Some PL Burgunds are tight in the band, some are loose. I got a 65H and a 65HH and one was tight and good on me (I'm a 26/28 normally) and one was superloose. The cups are however on the more generous side, so I would suggest a 32J in most other PL bras, or one of it's sister sizes. I would suggest a 30JJ in most other PL styles, apart from other that is tight in the band...

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  • Thanx! Meanwhile the band loosend so much I had to put it on the tightes hook, which made the quadboob worse. When I took the bra of, saw the marks were on my breast tissue at the bottom of the cups, so i think a 30 jj would be in order.
    I have to ask you, Im not really happy with this boob touching situation, I think Id be happier in a higher gore.
    What size should I take in chp? (Thats the one with less projection, right?)

  • Definitly a 30JJ then...

    I think that the boob touching situation will be a whole lot better in a larger cup size. You might still get some slight boob touching, but not much at all, and definitly not like this in a cup size two sizes up from this. Don't judge a bra based on fit in the wrong size. :P

    Anyway, the one with less projection is the HP, while the CH is the deepest one. CHP is like a merge of these two.

    Personally, in the sizes I've had both of the CH and HP they are identical, apart from the HP going higher up at the side. This might not be true in the smaller cup sizes, but as I'm a 28K in PL at the moment and 28JJ in the CH/HP and have tried quite a couple of them it should be quite true in your size as well. Because of the higher up edges it is more supportive atleast that's how I feel, but it's also less flexible in depth (you can loosen the straps on the CH and get more depth, while it isn't that easy on the HP).

    Anyway, CHP is supposed to be a combination of CH and HP, and does according to some run a bit bigger. I would suggest a 30JJ in it as well, as even if they run a bit bigger, so is this PL supposed to do (I found it slightly bigger as well) so a 30JJ could be good.

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    Àgreed, the cups are definitely one or even two sizes too small. I get this overly sexy look in some swim wear styles from Bravissimo, when the upper cups are too small;)

  • My boyfriend is however thrilled with this bra. I on the other hand have no use of this kind of cleavage as I do consider it to be somewhat vulgar in a low cut top. I am not a folk singer, I think only they can get away with this :)
    I think the chp goes only up to a J. I saw curvy wordy in a 32 j and it does seem bigger than pls she mostly has in 30kk. So I was hoping I coud get away with 30j?
    I know this is a stalkers question, but Nesoa, do you have any pictures here on bratabase in your EMs? Cause from what you say I figure Im about there in cup volume?

  • Boyfriends are in general not very used to how well fitting bra-cleavage look. :P

    Anyway, I don't have much up at the moment for my more recent ones (I started of in a 30HH PL Burgund but I've grown a bit since then).

    http://www.bratabase.com/browse/ewa-michalak/pl-cielus/60JJ/
    http://www.bratabase.com/browse/ewa-michalak/pl-karmelki/60JJ/
    http://www.bratabase.com/browse/ewa-michalak/pl-black/60JJ/
    http://www.bratabase.com/browse/ewa-michalak/pl-fuksja/80GG/
    http://www.bratabase.com/browse/ewa-michalak/pl-purple/80GG/

    The 80GGs have been altered down. I sadly don't have many pictures of how HPs and CHs fits at the moment. You can also see how some are okay in the cups and how some are slightly smaller.

    This is an HP: http://www.bratabase.com/browse/ewa-michalak/hp-turkus/80GG/

  • Thanks for leting me stalk :)
    Now this pictures baffled me some more- you seem at least three cup sizes smaller then me , if not more?? - or is this just that we are a different shape? I don think I would get this kind of coverage in two cups up! Is this how it's supposed to look? Cause I dont see even a K cup pulling me in so much o.O
    There is only a 30jj pl toffik and pl black available on the site though. Your insight on those?

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    We do have the same breast perimeter. However I'm reasonable shallow for my size and, more so, I have a very tall base, which means that I don't get the more extreme projection some people get, as my volume is more gradually distributed. I don't get a "shelf".

    However the more coverage is also dependent on size. In the larger cup sizes the Ewa Michlaak bras gives a whole lot more coverage than in the smaller sizes. Look at this: http://www.curvywordy.com/2012/09/ewa-michalak-pl-carmen.html And you see how well a PL bra should cover. It's the larger-cup version, but, you still see how much it should cover.

    If you think you are that much bigger than me still, are you sure of your breast-perimeter? That you measure all the way under the arm until where your breast tissue ends?

    Also, the difference from one cup size up in the larger cup EM bras are quite big... Atleast it feels like it.

    In the larger cup sizes, even the plunge has a quite big amount of coverage. The plunge is basicly mostly about it being lower in the cente rfront, but in the cup parts, yes, the coverage is quite big in general when it fits.

    PL Black is quite stretchy in the band and a bit stretchy in the cup with wear as well. I think that a 30-band would be way too big on you, I need a 26 in it and I'm between a 28 and a 30 in PL Burgund.

    In your case I would suggest looking at the sale bras and make a custom order. I'm waiting for PL Czerwona Panterka, PL Lilac and PL Burgund in 60K at the moment, all for 75 zl. Don't know if they still make them, but, it might be worth sending an e-mail asking?

    I think Toffik might run a bit big in the band too. The CH Toffik definitly runs big, and maybe the PL does as well. Not sure about the PL, I think it runs a bit smaller in the band so a 30 might be okay, but it's hard to say.

    Also, remember that the CH/CHP/HPs CurvyWordy wears are too small for her, she squeezes into them because she loves the shape, though she needs atleast one cup size up from it, maybe more depending on the style.

  • Just saw the bird-perspective picture. You have the straps too long. If you would shorten the straps and then scoop your boobs to the center, so that they sit in the cups rather than at the cup edge at the arm I think you would get even more quadraboob.

  • You got me thinking, I have to remeasure myself.
    We do have a really different shape though - I do get the "shelf" look often, looking from the side, i do have quite narrow root.
    I thought that they wouldn't make a bra in another size if it was on sale! That's great news!! But if it doesn't fit I cant send it back?
    What would you say was a good bra to start with?

  • Compared to many bras in my size I do have a narrow root as well, but I think that's mostly compared to the bras that are being made. Based on women in our sizes I'm probably normal to on the wide side. My breasts end up quite in the middle of my armpits, and well, they can't go any further even though some bras do... I do however have a "wide root", the other way, my boobs does end just at my collar bones these days, and goes really even up to there, but then they are also not very movable, but instead annoyingly firm.

    They do make custom orders of bras in the sale! The PL Karmelki and CH Karmelki are also sitll available I think, but I'm starting to think that if you actually measure more than this you might end up being outsized of them.

    What to start with totally depends on what you want. If you would go up to a 30K I think, but I'm not sure, that you might end up with the 4-piece cup construction which also means a higher center gore plus more coverage. The 30KK definitly has this.

    If you would compare yourself to CurvyWordy at her blog, would you estimate yourself bigger/smaller or equal. She's about two cup sizes over me (counting in sister sizes) and a 30-band in EM and might be good to have as a reference.

    Also, she found the CHP bras more generous in the cup, which means that you might be able to squeeze into a 30JJ in those. I think that some of the sale bras there are available too on special order.

    So, what sort of bra to you want/need? Colour, style etc? :)

    Anything that's special ordered will not be returnable, however at the moment there really isn't much to choose from in your size anyway, which means that you might end up with needing to special order still. :/ And I think you should be able to pin-point your size well enough to find something wearable atleast. I would also suggest to go for the smaller potential band size, depending a bit on how it runs, and then wear it with an extender, as EM bras do tend to stretch a bit during the first couple of wears, if you don't want to do alterations.

  • I've stalked you a bit. Apart from the straps cutting in the 30J Alexa looks kind of good. I need a 28J in it, and the same goes for the 28JJ Confetti, which I'm also a cup size smaller in. So, based on that I would aim at 30K PL bras to start with, as I'm more of a 28K now in PL.

    Don't know if it helps at all, but, we can atleast say that you most likely is bigger than me.

  • So I remeasured and updated photos with the bra on tightest and straps as short as they go. The alexa is a cup size too big with no doubt. From the pictures I would say Im a about a band size and a cup size smaller than curvy wordy. But she wears a 60kk so I dont really get how that is possible. Id put myself at 2 cup sizes bigger than you though. I m not sure, It is quite hard to tell.

  • She wears a 30KK, so a 65KK. The pictures here is from when I was a cup sizes smaller, so, then a 30K is probably a good start. Might sound scary, but I think it's the best I'll be able to suggest.

    The new pictures shows that this bra is atleast two cup sizes too small, and if the back is big... Well, I think that 30K definitly is more of your size.

    After shortening the straps and scooping again you don't get the extra room in the cup because of your breast pushing the cup away from your body to get more depth, and now it really shows how small it is in the cup.

    It's quite easy to loosen the straps and think it's good because of it looking better but it's a quite good way to mask a too small cup. You would also get a whole lot more uplift from a a larger cup size... :)

    And, also, if you're a 30K in PLs as standard then a 30JJ CHP might still work on you. :)

  • 30k really does sound scary to me. 30jj I could live with but k?? I started off as a G o.O
    Anyway, I dont really get the strap thing - I dont think youre supposed to wear it at the tightest right away, there should be some room left for the stretch factor?
    30k.... Feeling like a freak again.

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    You're not supposed to always be wearing it on it's tightest. However, you are not supposed to be lengthening it to get less quadraboob. The thing is that on bras like these, the strap is supposed to sit at the side of the breast, not on it. The reason I asked you to tightening the strap was that you had boob escaping and setting itself at up there, where it shouldn't be. By tightening the strap you made it impossible for your breast tissue to try to escape under your arm.

    You should basicly be able to stretch the straps an inch or two above your shoulders when wearing the bra. Not more than so. What setting you have however, should only be dependant on that. If you don't have any extra to adjust to when the bra stretches, well, then the straps are too long. It's like with a band, you should get a bra that fits, not wear the band too loose to get room for when it stretches.

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    Vlatka, of course plunges should be 'sexier' than other styles, but they certainly shoundn't dig in breast tissue like the one you wear on the pictures. But you could keep it as a 'bedroom bra';)
    Regarding Curvy Wordy, she has very large breasts, around one or two cupsizes larger than mine, I guess. But like you, I think it's weird that she can get away with a 30 band. Maybe she is very squishable around the back. But like Nessoa, I think you underestimate your perimeter. I measure around 40 centimeters. However maybe it would be smaller if I had a narrower root, like you have.

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    Just curious, but why is it strange that CurvyWordy can wear a 30-band? :)

  • I think she has about 6 cm larger underbust messure than me, and Im fine in a 30 band, and sometimes get away with 32. Also, she did loose weight but she started with 36 bands, I dont think she droped 3 band sizes though.
    So when I see her in a 30 Im wondering if I should be wearing a 28 band.
    I put myself also in a cupsize or too smaller then her.
    About the perimeter - my boobs finish right before my armpit, they dont extend under my arms which is why i love the wires on EM!

  • Vlatka, I would be surprised that you could wear 32 bands! I measure 27", so not much less than you, and I've found one EM bra where I could wear a 30-band, apart from that I'm mostly a 26 or a small 28-band.

    She measures 29-30 I think, which is prefectly normal for wearing a 30-band. 30 is standard.

    At the moment you are wearing a bra that runs tight in the band and need a 30, which would make her a 32 in the same bra (two inches bigger), which definitly makes her a standard 30-band... And the fact that you need 30 in this also makes you a standard 28-band i would say. :)

    She has lost weight, but she has also had a travel in finding the right size and realised how a band actually should fit. :) That combined has definitly changed her bra size.

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    About the band size talk... I thought I figured that one out... but there are a lot of different opinions about it.. not talking about stores that sell 36DD to 30GG ladies but also among here: Some say the underbust measurement in inch is the band size. Which puts me in 30 bands. Some do even go down one band size and others say that it is reversed letterophobia if you try a band smaller than your back size and go up two or 3 cups... maybe it is different for everyone but I prefer a tight band because before I suffered lots from neck and back pain and I don't want that again.

  • alisa: You are not the only one puzzled by this. And I'm totally with you on preferring the tighter bands.

    I do think there are way more girls out there over a K cup than one might think.

    I think bras with sizes like in H&M even does not exist on girls. Meaning: How many 36 b-cup girls out there are really 30D-E? How many 34 C are like 28F? The list goes on and on and on.

    But seeing the pictures of Nesoa in HP Turkos makes me think I might fit Effuniak HP after all. Even if I would need to alter them down.

  • Eliza: If all women would know about their true bra size stores like H&M would't sell any bras at all. Even so called "good" lingerie stores around here like Triumph do not sell a lot of sizes only up to EU G-Cup which is only about a UK F-Cup.

  • Nessoa, I looked at her again and I think she's very slim now. So, you are right that a 30 band would fit her. I think it all depends on preference in a way. I am getting my first 28 band (the Harmony balconette) and apart from the way the cup will or the center gore, I am very curious how a 28 band will fit. I always put on the band first, to know how it fits without the cups. I think all my 30 band apart from the very tight running Bravissimo sports bra run rather loose. So, maybe a 28 band would be an improvement.

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  Personally I think this is a great fit on you. EM bras are known for creating a killer cleavage and this bra is no exception. I think this is what makes you think that the bra is too small. You simply are not used to this.

  I had an Ewa Michalak plunge once. I live in Germany, ordering from Poland is easy and so I tried the brand in several different sizes. When the cup was too small or too big, the centergore would wobble. Only in the right size would the centergore sit flat and stay flat.

  The only ways to improve the fit would IMO be to try out different cuts from EM. The CH or CHP cut might work just as well or even better on you.

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    Ewa will have PLS style available very soon. It's Plunge Super - the center gore will be higher, especially designed for ladies with bigger and softer breasts.
    Like t maja said, the look is typical for bigger breasts and Pl style:) If your breast are staying in the cups when you are moving, the fit is good.
    In my personal experience I looked like this when bra was too small in the cups - it was ok when I put it on and after a while, boobs were trying to escape in the middle.
    

  • I really feel it's too small - the quadboob gets worse when i move (Im too squished tigether to fall out in the middle) and the marks show the bra is sitting on breast tissue.
    So Im thinking 2 cups up at least.
    Do you guys have any insight on CHP sizing? I have my heart set on that style cause it seems best of both worlds.

  • Ok, after you added the pics with the shortened straps I am convinced that you can go up in cupsize. :) Ewa Michalak tends to run small in the larger cupsizes, many women need to go up in cupsize in EM bras compared to their british sizes.

    As for how CHP sizes differ - I have no clue. I only know that in the smaller sizes (65DD) the CH cuts have narrower wires.

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