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Bravissimo » Mademoiselle Bra (LN110) » 34H 34:11
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Returned to exchange for 36HH.
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I tried this and a couple other Bravissimo halfcups on a recommendation, but as you can see, got some serious quadding. I really like the styling of the bra, and the way it feels, though, and I'm wondering if the 34HH would work for me, or if the shape is just not going to agree.
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I think the shape is great for you! Don't give up on ti, please
But one cup up won't solve this. You should try 36 HH and then take in the band if necessary.
You should also be on the lookout and try to get your hands on some older, discontinued bravissimo halfcups - those are reported to run much larger than newer versions, so 34HH should be good for you in Demi diva, parisian plume and older versions of rococo charm.Updated on January 4, 2013 Flag this
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I have the 34HH and 36H Parisian Plumes at home. Shall I send them to you instead of to Bravissimo? :)
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you can tell them apart by colourway - the green rococo charm was the first one released - that one is larger. Also, the aqua plume was the first - also larger. demi diva was released first in black/graphite colorway which is said to run largest of all bravissimo halfcups. Not sure about the red one.
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@Branarchist Ooh, tempting. which colorway do you have? And what didn't work for you about them? I'm torn because returnability is nice and they still have the 36H but not the 34HH. maybe I'll put up pictures of the aqua plume tonight to see what you guys think I should do? I was a bit less a fan of the styling than the other two so I hadn't been sure I'd try to exchange it, but the prospect of a fitting bra is nice. Bah, I wish we all just lived in the same place so I could borrow everyone else's bras to try on. :p
@Vee, thanks for the info! if you don't mind, can you tell me what you see that tells you it's a good shape for me? I had been initially worried about the cup depth, as I often find bras sliding down down down on me, which I've interpreted as being too shallow, and if you look at my pictures in the alexa it's a very different profile. but this is also mostly still lots of shots in the dark for me. :p
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Okay, so here are my thoughts. I think you should stalk branarchist and XLhourglassy for pointers oon bra ordering.
From what I see you have quite a lot of migrated breast tissue - you had your boobs cut off at the sides - below the armpit and a bit on top, which I actually saw on the alexa.
Your breast tissue seems to start very high on ches, right below the collarbone, although you seem bottom heavy - this leads me to believe that the tissue was actually cut of as you once probably were high on chest and round or fuller on top.
Now, to get those pieces together I would say go with bravissimo halfcups. they have wide wires that will help you migrate back the tissue that travelled to your armpit. The other benefit of this is that these halfcups will keep boobs close to your body - I think this will help put together the tissue that was cutt of on top.
Andorra in my opinion is the perfect migration bra - I see you have tried it in some sizes, I wonder why it didn't work for you?
I think some older panache styles might be worth a shot too depending on your issues with andorra
Oh and please don't feel discouraged :) Most of the online fitting is just trial and error, and it is the best way to learn isn't it :) -
<3 Thanks!! This is great information. I've definitely identified with a number of things those two have said, but it's hard to know how to put it to use. I'd definitely agree that I have lots of migration (unsurprising as I was in Victoria's secret pushups in 38D until october), but I've had a hard time figuring out what's breast and what's fat. I obviously have a good deal of fat all over me, so it's hard to say, but I've kinda defaulted to branarchist's "treat it all as breasts" mentality when scooping. of course, I haven't had a bra yet that really keeps what I've scooped there, especially the higher tissue.
As far as the Andorra, I have the 34H at home, so I'll try to get pictures up sometime soon. it seemed fantastic in the fitting room, but in practice notsomuch. I'm having to tug the underwires back up on the front all day, and I personally found the wires quite short on the sides for my needs, with tissue readily slipping back over and then getting stabbed by the shorter wires. I think I also tried a clearance one on in a 34j for the heck of it, and didn't take good enough note of the fit issues to remember why it didn't work, but I do remember the wires were still too low in that.
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You should try bending the wires on the andorra, it will probably make them stay put.
http://brasihate.blogspot.com/2012/01/what-to-do-with-those-pesky-wide.html?m=1
As for coverage, maybe a bigger size wouldn't be a bad idea, however, you might need those superhigh wires of older panache models that everyone complained about.
I actually think harmony and confetti could have right wires for you, but It would be too wide in the center gore and probably not stable enough for you.
So this leaves tango, older versions of ariza and maybe sienna
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Ok. I agree with Vee.
Everything is now kind of messy for myself since I suddenly decided to size down about 2-3 cup sizes on a day which also made me need a bigger band. With wires further to the front the need for a tight band is much less.
The half cups I have at home are the aqua in 34HH and the black in 36H :) There is a quick back band alteration that one could do that look like this: http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/522449_10151222651845540_657239525_n.jpg It looks very ugly but it does add strength to the back band so it doesn't curve that much. Kind of like fake boning.
I also think you could try to buy some HP Effuniak bras as well before they are all gone.
And now I'm going to tell the sad thing about wires. They stretch. They stretch a lot and some brands stretch even more. Andorra wires stretch like mad.
How high are you from underbust line to armpit? Where does your tissue end up when leaning over? Do you look full on bottom or on top when you lay on your back and hold the tissue on the sides as to prevent it from falling to your back and then just allow the boob to shape itself on your chest. That could tell you whether you'll end up fuller on top after gaining the tissue back.
With all this tissue running around our chests and backs we have a lot of work ahead of us to collect it :D
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Vee: Don't you think she might work in the CHP as well? :) They do have high wires? And better; wires with a wide bottom.
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Wah, thank you so much, it's amazing to actually be getting personalized advice from someone who knows what they're talking about. I have tried bending the wires on the andorra, but I don't think I'm very good at it. :p I had been thinking that maybe there just wasn't enough depth for me near the wire?
I do remember reading about the lauded lowering of panache wires with chagrin. I couldn't stand how wide the tangos I've tried made my boobs, in the way of my arms. but I'm also not sure if I tried anything in remotely the right size, as fitters were giving me pretty bad sizes the couple times I was getting help (36fs, thanks loads Linda's, and when I returned them being like lolno she wouldn't bring me things other than like 38fs >_<. I'm thinking they don't teach them about migrated tissue? which was sad because my fitter looked to have a quite similar size/body.)
I returned a hilariously small 36g sienna to figleaves, but I don't think they've gotten it yet, so could still change the exchange if you had a better suggestion? I think I asked for a 34hh. and I have a 36gg violet mix ariza right now that definitely works at least better than the andorra. I can actually quad in both of those when I'm entiely scooped in with all that top tissue, but I'm worries I'd just end up with a really gapey bra sizing up. would you always advise sizing up if you're capable if achieving spillage, even if it doesn't stay put with wear?Sorry for writing you like, a novella. :p
So in terms of my bravissimo exchange order, would you say go for both the mademoiselle and peachy rococo in 36hh? the rococo seemed to fit maybe a little more generously than the mademoiselle, but I wasn't sure. also, I know ook asking for a million things and really appreciate the help, but if you take a look at my rhea, would the 36h be a possibility of working? I just saw they have it (for a split second probs), but if this bra is not going to work and be more of a bedroom bra anyway I might as well keep the 34h for more cleavage. -
Well, like we say here - don't judge a bra if you tried it in the wrong size :)
Branarchist has a great experience exchanging from bravissimo, so I think you could get more then few bras to try out. So yes, a 36HH in halfcups, you could even try a 38HH if they will let you have loads of bras no charge :)
The rhea I'm afraid you will have to let go- that was at least a two cups too small issue I saw.
If you plan revisiting sienna, you should probably try it in JJ, as it is known to run really small, and I say due to less stretch, you should get it one cup up from andorra.
So far I liked andorra in J best on you. If you still have that one, put some elbow in wire bending, don't be afraid, you can always bend it back.
It might as well be that it's too shallow for you at the bottom. That means panache jasmine should work wonders for you.
At this point, I don't think it's bad to have a bra that's a bit too big for you. I think it will fill up in two months tops due to migration.
I do generally feel you should fit yourself by what settles in the cup after scooping, but like I said - if migration is expected, a bigger bra goes a long way. -
Vee Elphabra: They actually did take money for all the bras, they just sent the bras first and the money was later drawn. I was very confused. But still; in an exchange order one can have as many bras one wants as long as one pays for them.
I think these bras, even if they are not particualarly well made actually are magic for boobs like yours and mine Elphabra. Because the wires don't really act like wires here since they are so extremely stretchy, they just hold everything in. I think it's almost close to the same effect we see in sport bras. I am still very fascinated with how close to magical these bras are for undefined shapes.
Anyhow; I must be honest about this breast shape is being a bitch. We are going to have either quadboob or side boob or gaping cups in every bra we try. Our bodies are soft all over. Nothing not soft anywhere; we're like grown up cuddly babies in skin and fat :D I actually just adore that shape on myself but I cannot say it isn't hard to fit because it will bulge whatever clothes will be put on; is it a bra or jeans, a skirt or a belt, it doesn't matter; bulging will happen :D The good thing about it is that we can shape our bodies to our likings because it's easy to move around fat :D
So we will have to choose. Under clothing a too big bra might work better if it's stable enough. If we want cleavage then we can go for a smaller size I think. There's like no consistency in my bradrobe at all.
Because to get tissue from your back you'll need wider wires and tighter bands. But tighter bands stretch the wires and makes them become lower. So that's why I've been wearing bras that were by most considered too big. Because I wanted all the tissue in the cups. And now I'm actually thinking about keeping my huge 36HH Roccoco Charm. As a sleeping bra. It's huge and gape like crazy in the middle, but on the sides where I want coverage it's really really high. But I'm not quite sure about it yet.
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helpfulDefinitely go up in cup sizes! I'd guess two based on what I'm seeing.
Updated on January 4, 2013 Flag this
Thanks for the input! How can I tell if it's an older version of the rococco charm? I put up pictures of the one I got in this order yesterday, and also have at home but haven't photographed the 34h Parisian plume.