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  Wires might stand away simply because the band is too big and as it looks now it can be hard to determine anything really. What I would like you to do, if you can is this:

  * Use one hand to pull the band really really tight in the back and keep it low.
  * Use the other one to scoope all breast tissue into the cups while using the first hand still to keep the band tight.
  * See how it looks, does anything cut in or gape? How does it feel? Does the gore lie flat or flatter now?

  * If the gore still doesn't lie flat, take one finger and push it against your breast bone. Does that make the bra cut in?

  The problem is that a too big band both enables breast tissue to slipe out, which makes the gore unable to lie flat. It also rides up in the back, tipping the whole bra forward, which causes more gaping than what will be there with a tight band at the correct height.

  It also looks like you're in the four-piece cup version, right? If so, that will definitly affect the shape and fit as well. Around this point the straps starts to become really really wide, which also might contribute with some gaping.

  If it was way to big I would not expect this much cleavage, because it looks like cleavage, not overspill. Also, if your boobs couldn't take plunge bras I would also expect more overspill/cut in at the center gore, even with massive gaping, which makes me think that a lot of the fit issues here are connected with the band. If you try to dtermine how it fits even with just a bit tighter band that will probably cause new issues to appear and it will be easier to judge the fit and predict a potential new size...

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  • yes, the only thing is that a tighter band might distort the wires, and if they are anything like on this karmelki that isn't so hard to do :(

    Just saw we wrote some of the same things down :)

  • Yes it's the 4-piece version (I had no idea there were different version though)
    I have tried it on again and did pull the band tight. The gore won't lie flat on it's own. Now when I push the gore against my breast bone, I get quite good fit on my bigger boob (no quadraboob, no gaping) and some gaping on my smaller boob.
    But the problem with the shoulder straps gets worse. They are just too far apart. I think to get the shape this bra should give, I need to move them closer to the center. Also I might have to alter the position on the back too? What do you think?
    

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  Gore aside, I do think it's too big - I am sure of this because of the profile - this is not how a pl should look. It's clearly alowing too much room in the cup so you aren't getting the uplift you deserve.
  (it might be though the bra got stretched with wear?)
  To make this work, I think you should do the Nesoa thing and move the straps in.
  Now, as for the gore, bend it in. I did it on the Karmelki and it's sitting flush now. This gores are low and they tend to sit good even if a bra is too small. The only reason why it might not be so in a bra that large is the curve of the wires/your ribs.
  That, combined with center and upper fullnes and you get the floting gore issue.
  Anyway, if you bend the gore in - or even press it in with your fingers, and you don't get quadboob, the bra isn't too small.

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  • I just tried it on over my Jasmine and bent the wires to "jasmine-shape" and it looks not too bad. The cups are around the size of a 30JJ Jasmine. Also I'm surprised how bendable these wires are! I had to use none of the force that I had to use on Jasmines wires. I think I can make it work :)
    

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  Ok, I'm now getting wild with possible explanations here so bear with me.

  I am still trying to figure out what on earth is happening in this bra. You are totally east and west in Ewa Michalak, how would anyone ever go east and west in Ewa Michalak? It kind of goes against the nature of her bras

  The usual suspects: Band too big?

  If it were tighter would you go less east and west? Nope, more. Would the wires get wider? Yes. So no I don't think your problems would be that much helped with a smaller band.

  Strap position?

  They obviously are in the wrong place, but if they were more to the center they would make you become more of a purple shape with boobs quite close to your body, like the shape you get in Alana.

  So I actually think this could be a soft breast issue. Your boobs are not soft in the typical way but still soft enough to go in whatever direction they want to, so here they kind of goes east and west while in the deco they went to the center. I'm thinking it might be something like they goes to the deepest part of the bra wherever the deepest part is and fill it out. I've seen you get a lot of weird shape in bras you've tried and it's the same for me so soft breast does make sense as an explanation.

  But still; this compared to the Deco?

  Instead the best explanation probably is that your boobs are center heavy and therefore they push the bra to the sides. The deco was even more open than this bra and you fell out of it in the middle because there was nothing holding you from it. Here it is and the forces goes against each other which pushes out the center gore and makes the whole bra slope and go east and west.

  I think you are right; plunges doesn't go well with your shape. And I'm starting to think it is because your boobs needs the most support in the middle. If that's the case the higher gore Ewa might be better for you. But it just might be your boobs are the opposite of a plunge bra.

  Think about it like this: Where does your bras gape first if they gape? At the sides. I think I've seen you lifting up the sides of a bra before to show it's to big. The reason I could even come up with this explanation is because I'm the complete opposite from you. I never gape at the sides if the bra is anywhere close to fitting, but always in the upper middle. And I'm way fuller at the sides than the middle

  Update: After seeing Vee in the Karmelki I'm again confused.

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    Honestly I was a bit shocked when I first put the bra on. Even in the wrong size I haven’t expected such an east-west shape. I feared that I would be the only one who ends up not liking Ewas bras, when everybody else is loving them. Howerer it could be that the shape geets better once I altered the bra. That’s why I did this fit request. I really appreaciate your optinon on this :) I think you might be onto something with your theory about my breast being center- heavy. Also I would not describe my breasts as soft all over, but the tissue on top and towards the middle is quite soft though. It explains my issues with the Deco and this bra. Even when I when my breasts were smaller (and the Deco was not too small) I had to adjust the bra several times a day, because my boobs tend to fall out in the middle. Also the gore did not really lie flat.

    I have tried now several Panache bras , Ariza & Fern which both have a high center gore, and they give me so much more support.

    I have analysed my shape in the too big 30K Fern and it think you are right about my boobs just going whereever they want If they can. I get a really round shape in the fern (when others ranting about it being pointy) . Now I don’t fill out the side of ferns cups, there is gaping towards the shoulder straps on front but towards the center gore it is not that bad. I even fill out the space there.

    Now I think my breast are naturally full – on – top and also full- on – bottom and center - heavy which makes them just very round all over. So if I’m wearing a bra that is too big (aka Fern) they just adjust theirself in their most natural form in the cups. If I wear a bra slightly too small (Ariza 32J) they were pushed out of the cups on top towards the gore.

    I cannot really show that in the ictures but the shape from the angle I get in Fern is almost eclipse but from the front it is very round & and side-view in a t-shirt is also very round.

    Now back to PL Carmen: I’m keeping it and alter it like Nesoa suggested. Then I’ll check again. If the issues get worse, I’ll know I have to stay away from plunge bras.
    If it gets better, it was just a problem of the wrong size.

    Btw. which bras did you mean that looked weird on me?

  • Broderie and Rose looks extremely weird. Rose must be way too small and Broderie is just too big right? I actually prefer the Fleur over the Beau on the side pic because it doesn't flatten the top. However I can see if it you need upper support.

    Maybe you get better stability with higher wires in general and therefore don't need the tighter tops? Just a thought.

    I wonder if you fit better into the purple bihal shape more than the green shape in general? I wonder if full on top doesn't generally do better in purple than green shape. Then of course something in between can be right.

    When you describe top tissue in the middle as softer it really sounds logic. On me it's side tissue that's way softer and still fuller, I even spill out there.

    But with center heavyness it totally makes sense having use for a higher gore in general.

    I also think you look a little like Vee in the 30J Alexa so it might be that you would be better of in one size smaller after all. But it might be it would also exaggerate the pushing to the sides.

    Anyhow, it will be interesting see the altered pics :)
    

  • I have now altered the Carmen and I'm a bit frustrated. I think it still does not fit the way it should.
    Since it's not allowed to add pictures of alternations via bratabase I'll make an adventure out of it.

    And I think you are right about the higher gore. I couldn't wait to get out of the Carmen and put the Tango back on.
    The Beau is on the edge of quadraboobing because the top is not out of stretchy material. Now I found that the top section of all Bravissimo bras I tried so far did run tight,

    The Rose was too small in the band & cups, but the too tight band made the cups even a worse fit because the wires were disorted.
    The band was more like a tight 28 band.
    The Broderie is a 32JJ and it's too big both in the cups and the band.

  • Yes Bravissimo bras are not made for full on top boobs. They're like Freya in that respect. Panache seems to be your best brand?

    Will you make a special order of the S? :)

  • I think I'm a Panache girl. Not that these bras are perfect, they are far from it, but they seem to work the best for me so far. Bravissimo Alana is not bad though.

    So for now I don't think so. I'm not that impressed with Ewas bras so far. I know everybody loves them but so far I'm not that impressed :/
    I don't know if the S will be better for me. It does have a higher center gore than PL?

  • Much higher, and it's said to have narrower wires. But it's pointy :D

  • Higher center gore sounds good, put please nothing pointy for me! I had enough pointiness for the rest of my bra life when I tried that Dotty Spot :D

  • :D

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  Sometimes the bra rides up not because of the back band being too tight, but the breast in front being too heavy weighing the front down disturbing the balance in the rear. Wearing the band tighter to compensate for this will actually make problems worse cutting into your back making you look like you have more back fat than you actually have.

  Maybe try wearing something that actually has cup support so it doesn't weigh down too much. If you don't, as the years go by these problems will worsen.

  Of course, this is our personal opinion.

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  • What exactly do you mean by "cup support" ?
    I know Ewa Michalak bras are probably not the best for me but I always like to give everything a try before I write it off. I actually feel quite good and supported in a Panache Tango. I just need a higher center gore than Ewas PLs have for stability.
    

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