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  i've had a thought, what about the Pour Moi? St tropez bra? it is reviewed here: http://busts4justice.com/2012/07/01/is-it-pour-moi-st-tropez-padded-bra-reviewed/

  and i own it, i agree with the review the wires and wide and it is super shallow - perhaps it would fit you? (maybe you have already tried it i don't know) but the band is very stretchy, so you shouldn't get the heartburn problems, and the cups are good for a broad-base shallow breast with a more oval ribcage.

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  • Hmm I've tried the St Tropez cup in the huge sizes I once tried (32J but not in a smaller size. In the larger size it acted kind of like Freya Pollyanna and gave me a pointy shape.

    The thing is I've tried bras all over the place in different sizes these past months and no matter what direction I turn into size wise or shape wise I get new fitting problems.

    To not have my bands riding up I started using 32 bands which everyone deemed too tight. And I even jiggle up and down in the 34F Shock Absorber while it technically looks far too small.

    So it's almost I'm more supported without bras nowadays

  • Oh btw do you mean the padded halfcup? That one I haven't tried :)

  • yeah, that's the one! i think it only goes to a G cup, but you seem to have a wide variety of sizes, so it might fit in one size or other!

  • Ah thanks :)

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  Not to be nosy, (but I just am!), what are you doing for your heartburn? I have/had horrible reflux & have had 2 G.I. bleeds & 3 endoscopes. The meds I'm on now keep me totally under control.

  I totally understand how a bra could irritate your heartburn pain. That's exactly where mine hurts too - when it hurts. But, it hurts bra or no bra. I used to try to describe it and I said it felt like a tightening metal vice wrapped around my body. Miserable. I'm so sorry.

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  • Frontcloser: It's ok, I know medication is your special interest :) I'm not as nerdy as you but it's close :D

    I'm on Omeprezol so far. Also I'm trying to see if I'm allergic to soy so I've cut that out and will continue doing so for a month since I know food intolerance has delayed reactions.

    My whole family have different heartburn conditions like dyspepsia and GERD and have all been on Omeprazol for it. I don't know exactly what esofagit is called in English but I suppose inflammation of the esofagus is what I have, caused by Gerd. (My mom has the same condition)

    So I've had some asthma symptoms, coughing and swallowing that has gone away with Omeprazol. The heartburn is still there but it's at least better.

    I had been going with heartburn without any medication (I normally like to cope without medication) for a month before it got too bad. The difficulty swallowing is slowly getting better when on Omeprazol but it also depends on what I eat. But no asthma for a week now at least :)

    I normally don't trust the docs to know a lot more than I do. I do think I'm mostly just stressed out and my body reacting in this way. But I probably should up my dosage of Omeprazol to get well faster.

    I was even reluctant to use this medication from start because before I could always manage my heartburn by eating less sugar and so on.

    Now it's more like a gentle flame inside my chest. Uncomfortable definitely but not painful. I actually can get that kind of warmth inside when being dumped and I'm now in some stressful circumstances so I think that's mostly what's causing all of this. I do think it's stress related and on my brother it has been.

    There's also another disease which I could have that is an allergy in the esofagus. That also gives my symptoms, but nothing points towards it since I don't have any IGE antibodies in my blood.

    I actually think I am one of those pain patients for whom pain is mostly pain and really not dangerous. I think I have undiagnosed fibromyalgia as well.

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    Nerdy & proud of it! ;). I love nerds. I have GERD, and before I found the right meds & dosage I had bad problems. I've tried all the proton pump inhibitors & for whatever reason Nexium works best & I take 40mg 2x a day. My first endoscopy like 15 years ago after my first GI bleed showed severe erosion in my esophagus, right at the junction where it meets the stomach. They were worried I had a more severe condition called Barrett's Esophagus which can lead to esophagus cancer (!!), but a biopsy ruled it out. My problems all stem from a genetic collagen defect. Everything is too loose & floppy in my body. The valve between my stomach & esophagus just isn't firm enough to hold a seal. For me, this isn't a problem that diet can fix totally - although I do try to stay away from overly acidic & spicy foods.

    I didn't realize English wasn't your 1st language. What language do you normally speak?

  • I also meant to say that after a year on the right meds, a follow up endoscopy showed total healing. :)

  • Frontcloser: I'm Swedish :) Hanging here on Bratabase for a couple of months has made me even think in English and not Swedish, but I'm very far from fluent :)

    Did you also get asthma and the likes from your esofagus erosion?

    I've always been one of those that couldn't eat a lot in one meal but rather I eat almost like a gastric bypass person naturally. It just works better for me. People are surprised about how small my portions are, but I've come to know my body and I'm used to just regulate everything by myself.

    I kind of think heat is something my body has decided I shall now suffer from. I have sometimes vestibular problems and sometimes my muscles are numb from having relaxed so they heat and now it's my heartburn. I also get rashes when to hot in shower and sauna and sun and the like. I think my body isn't to hot on heat so to speak.

    It also seems most of the times I'm more sensitive to pain than others so I've learnt pain isn't dangerous.

    While I'm at it; the Omeprazol I'm now eating is too old. Last date for it was october last year, (two months) do you think it could effect anything? I got it from my mother instead of buying it myself. I have gotten a prescription of my own yesterday but just two months wouldn't make that huge difference, would it?

    And I think it's the same for me; a diet cannot fix this. Not completely. At least not if I also want to wear bras and tighter clothing and the like :D

  • I have asthma regardless of GERD. I was a preemie & I've had respiratory issues my whole life. 2 of my 3 children inherited asthma and one inherited my genetic defect (my son, my youngest). If the meds are only expired a couple months, they might not be quite as strong as fresh ones, but they should still work some. You can try taking them 2x a day to see if that helps. I also have temperature regulation & vestibular problems (related to migraines & cluster headaches). Look up autonomic nervous system problems like Dysautonomia.

  • Do you also have postural hypotension? Get lightheaded when you stand up too quickly?

  • Yup! also postural hypotension! Have it all my life. I fainted into a mirror when I was 13 years old in an episode because I was so curious to see where that would lead me. Never will do that again :D

    I have never had migraines though. Cluster headache I have a friend with. He's suffering terribly from it.

    Will look up Dysaotonomia. And will up dosage of Omeprazol. Every direction says take only once a day but more? I also think it would be smarter to portion it out over the day? :)

    I'm like the only hypotension person in the family. Everyone else has hypertension. And allergies, I have no allergy anymore. I used to. The only typical diagnose I have is Lichen Sclerosus so I've always figured I will one day die from vagina cancer. (but that's day is far ahead :D)

  • Yes, it says to take once a day, but my Dr prescribed mine 2x a day. 12 hrs apart.

    Last nosy questions ... Are you really flexible? "Double jointed"? Ever dislocate a joint? Have joint problems?

  • I looked up dysautonomia and I looked at the screen thinking WTF ZOMG BBQ?! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Postural_orthostatic_tachycardia_syndrome

    I fit the symptoms by the book. Also I have always said that "pain conditions" is like the nervous system is stressed out and almost sometimes breaking down. Just like mental burnouts the body gets burnt out. It does seem ANS fits that bill.

    My vulva specialist said that fibromyalgia and vestibulit was commonly associated.

    No joint problems, just irritated stuff in my knee which again is not dangerous but hurts.

    I have minor problems but a lot of problems. Yes I can almost faint from exercising. Not often but yes it can happen. Yes my muscles certainly can be so weak they cannot bear me. Yes I tried to standing still yesterday and felt dizzy, while walking went well. Yes I've had a lot of problems with constipation and vomiting and feeling nauseated and whatnot (typical IBS dyspepsia person), yes restless legs, yes problems with sleeping, yes anxiety and yes problem when being in different positions. My muscles can be super weak even if I'm otherwise strong.

    So yes. I think I fit the bill. And it also seems I'm treating myself right. I eat almost constantly, I've considered stopping eating gluten, I'm totally not into coffee and alcohol isn't something I like particularly well. I got some interesting side effects when drinking cider when I ate zoloft (sertralin I think it is) and cascade vomited two times for hours just from drinking 2dl 5% alcohol cider and no one could explain what on earth was going on. I also got memory losses from two glasses of wine.

    Oh and yes, I sweat like a pig. My body is never the right temperature, I'm always cold when sitting still and hot when moving :D

    But joint problems or extreme flexibility I really don't suffer from :)

  • But hmm after some more thoughts "The hallmark symptom of POTS is an increase in heart rate from the supine to upright position of more than 30 beats per minute or to a heart rate greater than 120 beats per minute within 12 minutes of head-up tilt." That thing I have to check. I never have a really low heart rate.

  • Hope you don't mind me butting in on the conversation... The heart rate issues involved with POTS are increased heart rate(tachycardia).. not low heart rate. (I also have POts and Neurally mediated Hypotension, leading to low blood pressure on being upright. I also have the reflux problems.. often worse withover activity(which for me is anything,lol).. But what I wanted to suggest regarding the reflux as something to look into as a possibility is whether you have been tested for helicobactor pylori. It is a bacteria in the stomach which leads to ulcers, reflux etc.. Not everyone who has it may have syptoms. worth looking into,especially is all your family have this issue.

  • NaturallySo: Just butt in, I don't mind.

    I do understand it's about having higher heartrate when standing up, it's just that I never have a low heartrate to compare it to XD But I doubt it levels above 120 every time I stand up. So I have to check if I go up 30 beats or not.

    But when I read the symptoms list I didn't understand one could have episodes of pots and then be well another day. I've just read everything I could find the last hours.

    About the heliobacters I've read about them but it doesn't sound what it is now. Everyone in the family is living in different places, we're all grownup :)

    I've read about all explanations for my heartburn the last weeks and heliobacters doesn't quite fit.

    Pots is more like it's so interesting having almost all symptoms of such a long list and some things might be easier explained by it :) So I will read up on it some more.
    

  • Fair enough.. though I will say.. Helicobactor can cause many symptoms, one or none.. My family also live in different places and its quite possible to have this bacteria living in your gut for many years or decades and not know about it.

    I understand now what you are saying re the heartrate.. I thought you were thinking you didn't have a low heart rate so you therefore didn't have it. My mistake. Even if you don't have a base heartrate to compare to, you can test yourself by measuring your heart rate when standing from a sitting postition.. if it goes above 120bp, this could be an indication..

  • It went from 54 to 84 just going to the bathroom. So up 30 in two minutes. I wonder however if it will get back to 54 again soon. I doubt it. It got higher and higher and I really didn't do anything but getting out of bed. Very interesting :)

  • My heartrate always races even just sitting. Fibromyaliga and CFS/ME can often be associated with POTS/Orthostatic Intolerance/Neurally mediated Hypotension. (I think you said you had fibro??).. there are tests that can be done for these conditions(POTS etc) called tilt table test. not sure where you are, how easily they are to have done. But your Dr can do his own basic test and if possible refer you for the other tests maybe.. good luck with it.
    

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    I did a self test. Checking pulse laying down, standing up 1 min 3 min 5 min and 10. Was up to 124. Constantly above 100. Laying down immediately got me to around 70 again after just one minute.

    I stumbled upon the cat in the process XD

  • I think you should go to a doctor, Branarchist, as there are many other things that can cause orthostatic intolerance. I am in the process of being diagnosed with POTS, but first they have to rule out other conditions like phaeochromocytoma, late-stage lyme disease and supraventricular tachycardia or other heart arrhythmias. Orthostatic intolerance can be a really debilitating condition - I am mostly housebound and cannot go anywhere on my own because of it. During my tilt table test, on upright tilt I fainted after 30 seconds and my heart rate went up to 200bpm. Without medication I cannot function at all because I collapse after standing for a few seconds! Rather than self-diagnosing, please go to a doctor and get the proper tests done to check what is going on.

    @Frontcloser - I am guessing you have Ehlers-Danlos Syndrome? Do you know which sub-type you are affected by?

    @NaturallySo - What medications do you take to help with your POTS, if I might ask? Have you tried midodrine?

  • florecita - Yes, I have EDS, Classical type.

  • florecita: I'm sorry to hear how ill you are ;/ I'm nothing like that.

    I only get myself diagnosed when I need it. Mostly I just want to understand my body so that I can treat myself :)

    So pots for me is an explanation for myself, nothing more. I understand if it sounds crazy but that's how I work. I have no diagnose for fibromyalgia either so far.

    I'm already retired and my income is safe. If I don't medical treatment I don't need the diagnose. If I would become super ill maybe that would change, but so far it's just a way to understand myself and my body.

    I really hope you get better.

  • @floretica: sorry to hear you are so affected. OI can indeed be very debilitating. In regards to your question, I have not tried Mitrodine, though have heard a few who have. I have concurrent illnesses associated with my OI. Meds I have tried include low dose beat blockers such as propanolol and atenolol. I have also had fludorcortisone and another similar(can't remember the name).. then also to increase salt intake etc.. Many of these have not helped though. My Tilt table test was not such a strong reaction as to faint after 30 seconds, my friend had a similar reaction to you and her test was actually a little different to mine, so perhaps thats why. (mine was done many years ago now).. I did have immediate reaction of my blood pressure dropping and diastolic pressure bottoming out. And the faintness ect gradually followed..

    I would second going to the Doctor Branarchist if you are concerned. There can be many illnesses that can lead to these conditions.
    

  • This fit request popped up again (they seem to rotate). I think you are wearing that bra wayyyy too low. You look like you're sloping into the cup, and the wires are much too far down.

  • RG: It's too small in every direction, I'm going to cancel the fit request. The Braologie bra fits me and it's much larger in every direction so this bra is simply just way too small :)

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