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  Are you all swooped and scooped? I have a feeling some of that 'armpit fat' might go into your cups, and that might be why the band looks a little strained.

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  amy__rebecca

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  • Yup, right before the photo. I think part of the problem is that the breast tissue goes pretty high up towards the armpit (behind and above the bra wing), so I scoop it and it settles right back where it was.

    Not sure what to do about that.

  • I have that too! It sits above my bra band on my back, it's coming back slowly though ;/ all I can say is be persistent with it and that's the best way to find out if it can migrate back. You might want to look for a bra with higher side wings, braologie comes to mind but do lots of research first with that one.

  • I'm glad that I'm not the only one! Okay, I'll keep trying to get it to migrate. I agree that higher wings might help too... any suggestions of brands to try? (I feel like many bras with tall wings also have tall gores, and those are often too wide in the middle for me.)

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  Picture 5/7. Clearly wire on breast tissue, that ain't no armpit fat
  Also, the numbers. 27 cm perimeter and 22 cup depth? Cups clearly too small.
  If you aren't extremly soft tissued or pendulous (and you don't look like you are), minimum cup depth for you would likely be around 25 cm.
  Anyone looking for wider wires and more coverage from the sides should be looking into halfcups - bravissimo, masquerade and freya padded halfcups usually work quite well.

  If andorra fullcup was bad, I suggest you try jasmine.

  But also, chances are wires would sit better in any bra with enough cup depth

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  • You're seeing correctly, I'm not soft-tissued... I'd say that they're reasonably firm and self-supporting. Thanks for the input on numbers and styles! I've been selecting sizes by my full bust to underbust ratio, (mostly because I'm still new to this and don't feel like I really understand the perimeter / depth numbers yet), so it's super-helpful to see them compared like that. I'll pay attention to depths and try some halfcups next.

  • Don't get me wrong, overbust underbust is great to ballpark a size (have you tried this btw? http://www.sizemapp.com/en/) but cupdepth and wirewidth can help pinpoint the size in a specific model.
    You should note that halfcups usually turn smaller in a cup depth department then balconettes due to shallow construction, so those might work for you aroun 24 cm even.
    There is a way to determine minimum cup depth needed.
    You lay flat on your back and mive your body slightly to the side so thy your larger breast ends completely on the torso. In that position you measure your breast perimeter, like you did with the leaning measurment. That should equal the bare minimum of cupdepth you'd need in a bra regardles of the construction.

  • Oh, I hadn't seen that minimum cup depth measure before! I will definitely do that.

    I've done Sizem and the measures look good for overall volume, but come up very small in the band size relative to what's actually comfortable. (It gives me 30GG, I tend to prefer 34 bands at least, so that suggests I should be looking at 34F/FF... yes?) I have a conical / v-shaped back, so I usually get numbers that look small when I use calculators.

  • Sounds about right :)

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  It looks like your band is straining. How does it fit with an extender?

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  Jillsas

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  • I don't have one, but I can try to get an extender and find out. It's interesting that you ask that, though... fitters (online calculators and in person) have usually tried to put me in a 32 band, and this band is a stretchy 34. Do you think it's worth it to try a larger band?

  • Okay, this is interesting. I was thinking about your comment last night, and it made me want to know the relative size of different parts of my back because I know I have a dramatic difference between shoulders / high bust (37.5") and underbust (33").

    This morning I had my husband measure my back, and it turns out that I'm 16.5" at the underbust (makes sense), but 18.125" at the top of the wing of my bra. It's starting to look like I'm actually a different size at the bottom and top of my band. Not quite sure what to *do* about that yet, but thank you for making me think.

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  Did you try the Idina plunge or balconette? You might be happy with a 34F in the Idina plunge (it's a really snug band in the black, for me at least, and the cup comes up a little small). I am similarly built in the torso (close-set, 39" overbust, 34" underbust) and the Idina balconette is a disaster on me.

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  • I just got the plunge in 34E from bare necessities today — it's interesting. The wires feel wide enough and I like the side support, but the fit isn't quite right with the E. Maybe you're right and I should exchange for an F cup?

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  First, the Simone Perele uses European sizing so an E cup = DD cup UK (according to HerRoom). That's relevant if you measured yourself using UK and are applying those measurements to SP.

  You have wide bases (tops). You may also have side boob...but bases appear to be side boob because the wires are jamming into the wide base - essentially the wires are too narrow at that point and/or too tall OR the cut of the cup is too small on the breast base. The odds that you'll be able to get that tissue IN a cup without having a wire jam your armpit isn't impossible, but it will be difficult. The best bet is a bra that works WITH your shape, not against it. Over time, some of that tissue may move around...but you need a bra today, so find one that fits you as you are.

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  I have wide bases (and sort of wide roots) and here are specific notes:

  Personally, the Idina plunge works for me but it runs small in band and cup...so go up a size in both.

  You may try a Panache Porcelain Viva TShirt Bra. I tried one in a too-small cup and it fit very well - gore is 3" and lower.

  The Cleo Jude Plunge (discontinued so try the Neve) works for me, too. The band is a bit squishy, though. I originally went down in cup size and that was a mistake. Overall, it's not a great fit, but technically it works. When I reorder in the Neve I'll try a larger cup and see what happens, maybe band size down. I think the cups need a good amount of pull from the band to widen at the base.

  Try the Natori line and N by Natori plunges. The mesh bands run loose...so go down in band and up in cup.

  Eveden brands:

  Eveden brands make their bands (and this is generalizing) so the top of the band is looser than the bottom - so the bands should work better on your V shaped torso. I notice this because I have flared ribs (bottom wider than top) so I struggle with Eveden bands compared to Panache/Cleo.

  Try Elomi plunges. They may work for you since they are great for side boob. I personally don't think they're great for wide bases if you are close set...but they may work for you. Elomi is more extreme than Fantasie or Freya, IMO, regarding bands - the bands can be very V shaped, which may be great for you. Have you tried the Elomi Hermione?

  I can't wear Freya - the wires always jam into my base (too narrow)...but you may fit in one.

  Fantasie Jana may work. Have you tried the Fantasie Rebecca? The gore may be low enough in your size.

  Love Claudette - You may have luck with them. The gores are probably low enough in most styles. The sides definitely are for me. I love their bands.

  The Wacoal 853117 may work for you. It's a plunge with low sides and personally, I think their cups are wide root. I don't think they're good for me but try them.

  Have you tried Chantelle? Most of their plunges have low sides and IMO, wide roots. I don't think they're good for me but try them.

  Parfait Sophia tshirt bra may work.

  Curvy Kate makes some wide wires and comfy bands...don't fit me because they're too shallow.

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  Try ordering a few sizes of each style when you order:

  Panache Idina 36E/34F
  Panache Andorra (plunge???) 34F/36E

  It is difficult in the beginning to learn which way to sister size. Only solution is time and trying lots of bras to see which way you go for each brand or type. Frustrating, I know. Take lots of notes and photos and keep them all.

  I personally have this rule: no gores over 3", no side seams/band over 4". If either measurement is taller I do not order. Period. You may need a lower band seam...but probably, you need to fiddle with brands and sizes.

  Another note...you may end up with a depth issue. You look a bit high-set along with the wide base. When you start finding bras that don't bang your bases you may start getting raised gores as the tissue concentrates along the midline. Try sizing up in the cups and see what happens.

  Hope some of this helps!

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  WideCurves

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  • Wow! Thank you so much for all of these suggestions. I need to spend some time looking through them, but it looks like there's lots of good stuff to explore.

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