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Comexim » Ingrid Plunge Bra (289) » 70F 32:6
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Lots of good starting points, I'm trying different styles with an extender.
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The band is obviously too tight, but I'm wondering about the cups. They definitely could be taller on the sides and a bit wider. My boobs are being mashed into my chest wall. I have HP silicone unders, and I swear they're more like disant cousins than sisters. The larger left is almost entirely implant, firm and wider, while the right is much softer with a smaller implant. Also the smaller on the right is higher so that's why I usually go with padded on the bottom. Removable cookies are a godsend.
I would love if someone could point me in the direction of a bra that would work well for me! I think I have more projection than average. No idea about roots. I'm so new and confused and frustrated lol.
I'm assuming they're inner full, gores never tack down. I've been wearing molded bras my whole life and they just seem too shallow, and then I get the uncomfortable smushed feeling with quadding.
So anyway, I ordered this and need a 75, but perhaps a different style/bigger cup? Sorry for the long plea! And thanks in advance.
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I would look through the Comexim models and for the styles you like, find the size that has a cup measuring 10" deep to match your breast perimeter. Natural tissue does compress a bit, but implants can't and shouldn't be squished and your side that's mostly implant will not be fully contained in an overly small cup. So for example if you wanted to persist with the Ingrid plunge, to get that 10 inches of depth you'd need to go all the way to a 75H or even HH (and as you can imagine this would also mean you'd have a much easier time fitting in width-wise).
It looks like your vertical boob perimeter is still a bit less than horizontal--this will make it a lot easier for you to find a fit. (Many ladies with HP implants wind up with a vertical measurement that's the same or greater than their boob width and this is NOT the ratio bra designers usually assume, so it can make it cruelly difficult to find a cup that contains and supports without being quite full coverage.) However, you do want to make sure that you're choosing bra designs that have a better chance of accommodating your very significant projection and your center fullness, which are still much greater than average for your size range. To this end, in Comexim, you probably shouldn't resort to reduced cups, low low plunges, etc. until and unless you've found that the more moderately cut styles truly are too tall, because these lower coverage options all end up offering less space on the inner half of the cup and a less open cup edge. However, I think with some trial and error you'll still be able to find a great fit in this brand and probably also Ewa Michalak.
General sizing tip: I don't know how long ago you were augmented but I've noticed it is common for ladies with implants to underestimate their cup volume for a while when they first come to bra-fitting, sometimes because there is a bit of a transition as they adjust mentally to their new bust dimensions and what this means bra-wise. So don't be shy about exploring larger cup sizes that make your brain go "what???!" because especially in brands like Comexim where the cup increments are small, your optimal cup size is probably wayyy bigger than you suspect right now.
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So this one has a size of 32:6, which means that the sister size is 34:5. If you order a 34:6, it will be one cup volume larger than a 34:5 and a 32:6.
Definitely go for a larger band and an overall larger cup volume. I looked around for 34:6 bras with narrow gores and I found that Corin, Freya, Fantasie, and EM all have some 34:6 bras with narrower gores. Definitely look around to see which styles in these brands will cater to your FOT, projected, and FOI shape.
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I don't know for sure because I'm also pretty new at all this, but I wanted to mention that the Comexim plunge isn't known to have great immediate projection (I had some fit issues with the projection on my Ingrid as well, I found that it got pulled down and wrinkled in the bottom of the cups after a bit) so you may want to try a more projected style. I asked for advice here about this myself not long ago in this adventure http://bra.pe/AD87/ and got a lot of good advice.
I know some of this might not be relevant because of differences in bra design and our shapes (I think you probably have less shallow roots than I do, and maybe more apex projection rather than immediate projection - but I think both those things will work in your favor as far as getting a better fit in Comexim!). One of the general agreed upon points from the comments in my adventure linked above was that the Comexim plunge is not as projected as the 3HC. I tried a 65N - Comexim » Burgundy Half Cup (357) and 65M - Comexim » Sonia Half Cup (406) at the same time that I purchased my 65M - Comexim » Ingrid Plunge Bra (289) and I found the cups were a bit too wide and high on the sides in the half cups, which might be perfect for you! As far as sizing goes, I'd say you definitely need a cup size larger in the Ingrid, so 34:6 (75F) as Saskia_C said. The site where I ordered the three Comexims linked above recommends going up one cup from your plunge Comexim size, and my experience agrees with that. I definitely had a lot of quadding in the 65M 3HC, and that size fit well for the Ingrid plunge. I tried the cup size up thing for the Burgundy and still had some quadding, but I think that was probably due more to shape incompatibility than actually needing a bigger cup. At any rate, if you decide to try a 3HC you may want to consider 34:7 (75G).
Oh! Last thing, I know you said the 70 band is really too tight for you, and I can see that, since your comfortable measurement is 1.6" more than the stretched band measurement. Bands do stretch though, so if you haven't returned this bra yet, you might want to try it on again with an extender. If the 70 is comfy with an extender, you get a bit more wear out of it because you still have all the rows of hooks when it starts to stretch. But your comfort is most important, so don't feel pressured to go to the tightest band you can stand if it doesn't do you any good, it's definitely a personal preference thing.
Oh! This is my real, actual last thing: you mentioned inner fullness and close-set breasts, so I wanted to also mention that I didn't think the 3HC accomodated this very well, most of my quadding was toward the center. However, I have found that Ewa Michalak CHP, S, BM and HM cuts accomodate my inner fullness extremely well. I don't have experience with the others but I'd bet a plunge in lots of brands would work well for you because your tissue will be a lot firmer and not fall out into the center! If you haven't seen it, take a look at the blog 'An Enhanced Experience', the girls there have good advice and reviews for everyone, but also mention some fit issues and suggestions specifically for enhanced ladies.
Good luck! Hopefully someone with more expertise in your size range will come along and correct anything that I've got the wrong idea about!
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Hiya, To begin with, it is frustrating and confusing! Don't feel overwhelmed or discouraged. There are two things I can think of that might help you. One is a little lesson on breast shape and terminology. The other is some specific bra recommendations. If you are not interested in the former or know it already, then skip to the end and accept my apologies.
As to the difference between left and right, your issues are not uncommon, with or without surgical intervention. People have this idealized view of breast surgeons as capable of creating perfect symetry with perfect consistency and flawless futures. As many people have told me, and your experience indicates, this is not so. I am at the breast reduction end of the spectrum and there is equally no guarentee that the results will be perfectly even and matched. Anyway, the density difference may be more unique to implants than not, but size, shape, and everything else is pretty common. You already know that I am sure. The only reason I mention it is because determinining your root shape and size might be influenced by the implants. The only foolproof way of determining where your breast "footprint" or root is on your chestwall is by feel. Breast tissue hurts more when it is poked than skin and muscle. I'm not sure how well you can feel the edges of your implants or how well they match up with your original roots. Generally, where your skin creases on the bottom and outside give a pretty good indication of roots, but it is always best to double check the outside edges by feel. In the centre, you look like you have at least one finger width between root edges, but you are the best judge of that. You also look like your roots might go a little wider than these wires do. The best test for that is when the outside wire is resting on breast tissue, by the end of the day it hurts! Comexim is famous for narrow wires. Almost any other brand will have wider wires. The best strategy is to use bratabase and look for bras in the size you want and check if anyone has entered the cup width. This you have measured at 13.5 cm. Take a guesstimate at how much wider you think you need - it is hard to tell from here, but you look like you need at least a whole cm, if not a full 15 cm. Wearing a 30 band as I do, just for comparison, I wear a 30:10/11 and have very narrow roots and I look for wires with a 13.5 to max 15 cm width. It is important to remeber that plunge styles, especially those with short wings measure wider than their full cup or balconette counterparts. Possibly a full cup with 13-14 cm cup width might suit you, but certainly not smaller. You don't meantion any centre gore pain so I am going to assume that you are fine with an average centre gore width. The fact that it doesn't tack is more related to having too small a cup volume than anything else. What you are describing sounds more like an issue with what is called "immediate projection." This means how steep the angle is on the bottom of your breast. Some people gently curve out with a gradual and smoot line out and up from their chestwall. Others, like me, make a ninety degree angle directly out at the base of my root and then make another ninety degree angle upwards to the nipple. Try finding a padded bra that looks like that! I gave up on padded a long time ago. I agree that removeable cookies definetly help with the smaller side, but they can't fix the shape mismatch, just fill the empty pieces. If you want to stick with padded, look for half cups with TWO vertical seams. The more seams, the more immediately projected the cup can be in a curve. The Ewa Michalak CHPs are good for this as are Comexims 3HCs. However, Ewa Michalak does have wider wires than Comexim, but only just. If you look up the measurements for CHPs here in your size and find the cup width numbers, you should be able to tell if EM might fit. As to other suggestions, you might like to venture into unpadded. Padded bras, being so structured, have the habit of smooshing breasts into their shape rather than molding to your shape. Plus, molded cups of every kind tend to be less immediately projected than all nonpadded because that is how they get their lift. In an unpadded, you can use the diagonal seam and attachthe strap to the outside of the bottom part of the cup and thus apply the lift directly to the bottom instead of just yanking from the top and hoping it will work. Unpadded bras are more complicated. But, they are also more flexible. Unpadded two seam half cups are the most similar to padded bras. But, they almost always fit a size bigger. Without the padding to decrease the cup volume, unpadded cups feel bigger in the same size, so you may need to cup down. Certainly you do for bothe Comexim and Ewa Michalak. The most important things to look for in unpadded bras is the combination of diagonal, NOT horizontal, seams and a vertical seem in the bottom of the cup. Make sure the strap attaches to the bottom of the cup for lift and shape instead of the top. Another advantage of unpadded is that they can have strechy top cups which hides assymetry.
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Sizing - as chirality says, bands stretch. I'd put you between a 30 and a 32 depending on which brands and models run tight. Most 30s stretch to about 80cm which is your comfortably tight, so in terms of longevity, you might get more wear out of a 30. I'm about the same size and biased towards a tighter band for more security and support. You can always start a bra on an extender and remove it as time goes on. But if you are more comfortable in the 34, go for it (just translate that to 32 for most other brands). I think Comexim and Ewa Michalak run a bit tight and I wear a 70 or a 65 with an extender. As to cup size, I'd go with a 32:7 or the equivalent 30:8 (34:6) in padded and probably 30:7 or 32:6 (34:5) in unpadded.
These are all pretty standard and familiar to many users so if they do not fit, their shape on you will provide a lot of useful information!
Padded:
Ewa Michalak CHP or CH in 70FF (they size in 2 cm not one inch so cup up one)
Curvy Kate Tease Me in a 30FF (CK padded and unpadded or closer in size but they have a weird thing where everyone usually needs to size up, so try 30FF in unpadded too - wires may be too wide for you)
Unpadded:
Cleo Marcie 30F with an extender, 32E without
Panache Jasmine or Envy 30F
Fantasie Lois side support 30F
Freya Gem 30F
These are less well known, but still pretty standard for your size:
Flirtelle Ellie 30FF (is related to Curvy Kate and usually needs a cup up)
Parfait Sophia Unlined 30F
And if you are feeling adventurous, my personal favourites:
Gaia Maggie in 65G with extender or a 70F without
I hope this is not TMI for you. Good luck with the search!
Updated on November 29, 2016 Flag this
Omg thank you so much! I am ordering a bunch of bras and it's nice to have suggestions lol. I'm going to get an extender, especially because I recently gained about 8 lbs due to a med I was intolerant too. So once I lose that, a 32 will be fine.
I've actually had pain I thought was from my implants for about a year but after just wearing a light sports bra for a week, it went away. So I've been wearing the wrong size bras for freaking 9 YEARS! Insane. I like to have some lining at least because I have the most sensitive nipples on the planet. Hopefully I'll have a couple keepers by the holidays!