Bra fitting help » What size and/or alterations do I need for a proper cup fit?
Comexim » Victoria Half Cup (407) » 60H 28:8
Cups too small, especially on left/larger side. Cup width seems relatively good though. I tried a cup size up in 3HC Sonia and Annika (60HH). Both seem to fit smaller side fairly well, but some quad on larger side. Gores did not lay flat (due to center fullness? gore to wide? or cups too shallow overall? not sure). Tried 60J in 3HC Basic with overlapping gore (tacked except for at the very top) and got the best fit overall, however cups width and strap width were not ideal. I'd like to order a Victoria but unsure what to specify. Overlapping and narrow gore would help, I think. Try 60J but narrow the straps and wire? If so, do I have to specify how much to narrow the wire?
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helpfulI wonder if you can do either one of the following things:
ask for a 60J with wires from 60HH or
ask for a 60HH with deeper cups.
I can't say how either one of these would work out as those aren't alterations I need/ask for. I know it was mentioned here or abtf about deeper cups, but idk how much deeper they are, or if anyone has gotten that alteration. (I am also assuming the J cup will work for you).When people ask for the straps to be moved in, I think it's mostly 2 cm, a few people have asked for 3 cm. 2cm is a little bit smaller than 1 inch, so that may make the cup fit somewhat smaller.
The cup definitely looks like it is too shallow for you. On both of the cups there is some space between your breasts and the wire, so I'd ask for this bra mde as a 3HC, so there will be more depth at the wire.
Updated on November 27, 2016 Flag this
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helpfulThis just looks much too small. I'd look for at least 1 cup volume larger, if not 2. I don't think you need to mess around with special alterations to the gore--you look like you have a perfectly fine amount of room for a gore, the failure to tack is simply due to your center fullness, which requires a cup that's deeper and in some cases probably more open. Don't try to strike a happy medium between fitting your smaller and larger side--it's not going to happen in a low-cut bra if you have enough of a size difference. You need to really properly fit the larger breast if you're going to be comfortable all day. When shopping for more full-coverage styles or sports bras, then you probably will be able to find a happy-medium fit more easily because the cup edge won't cut across your most challenging fit area, the upper inner quadrant, which is quite full on you.
Updated on November 27, 2016 Flag this
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Thank you, wendybien. Yes, I agree that since my smaller side has some quad that it would require a cup size up, and probably 2 sizes up for my larger side. My concern really is that the wire in this size is already slightly too wide. I had read so much about Comexim having narrow and projected cups that this first try has me discouraged. I've tried a few more since this one but have yet to get a good fit.
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Well, wires that are wider than your root only constitute a problem if they hurt or create a shape that you don't like. You are very lean so your ribs probably can't stand too much hardware in weird places, but if it's only an inch or so back from the end of the breast root it often feels just fine. Have you experienced pain from other bras where the wire was wider than your breast?
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Yes. I have a lot of discomfort on my right/smaller side where the wires end and also in the very front of my armpit where too tall cups and/or too wide straps cause lots of rubbing. (I have to tighten the straps more on the smaller side to eliminate cup gaping.) The best fit I found for larger side was an EM 60FF CHP, but it required both cookies and tighter strap on other side to eliminate gap which made the top of the cup and the strap reside in my armpit uncomfortably. That's what makes me think a Comexim with deeper cups and straps moved in might be a better choice.
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In that case yes I think you are right, you want to look for models with more depth instead of trying to make it work with shallower styles despite a shape and depth mismatch. More centered straps are also a good idea.
Also for the armpit issue, I would also advise a cookie or small pad on the smaller side--under the breast not in the apex of the cup. Tightening the straps is going to bring the end of the wire up into your armpit uncomfortably, especially since you are so petite in frame. A small pad under the breast will not make a visible difference in volume but will push the wire a hair lower and allow both underwires to stay equally low on your body. Some people with one breast higher than the other also use this to avoid the wire discomfort in the armpit! -
Just to note that the Victoria half cup (a 2HC by default) is wide and shallow for Comexim. Getting it as a 3HC will help with depth near the gore and all over.
If it were me, I would take a request this complicated to BraObsessed and have Jaimie order the bra for me after she understood my exact needs, plus get her feedback on your alterations and how many cups to request they increase depth by...
But the mark up is not inconsiderable through her.
https://braobsessed.com/products/comexim-victoria-plunge-bra
45 CAD, plus whatever shipping is to your country. (But it would be 45 CAD even with the alterations, and you would be able to return it if it didn't work out.)
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helpfulDefinitelt 3hc! definitely two cups up. I'd say move the straps in. I use two cm for this, but I have a couple at three cm and it doesn't warp anymore than the 2 in padded styles. As to wire widths, your best bet is to send an email. Be as simple and direct as possible as their English is waaaaaaay better than my Polish, but it is not up to layered email politenesses and complex sentence structure. You'd be best asking if they can make a 60J with wires narrowed by two-three cm - or however much you need. Wire substitution questions might not translate. If you specify cup depth at 3hc 60J and ask if it is possible to have narrower wires with that depth, they may be able to sort it for you. It may take some time for them to repsond - especially if your English is more confusing. Short, simple questions sent one at a time tend to have a shorter turn around time, except at times where they are particularly swamped by questions.
On another note, I also have significant assymetry and I find that unless I use my full-cup cookie, the strap sits wider into my armpit, the shape droops (in unpadded) and the fit is generally wrong. By filling out the full cup shape, the bra sits better as a whole. It is a tension requiring fit. You may find that you just need to adopt a daily cookie in order to make your bras fit. Alternatively, if you are not planning on a pregnancy in the next five to ten years, you could ask for a reduction surgery consultation specifically for the assymetry. I know that all breast reduction surgeries are covered in Canada, but not necessarily in other places. Obviously, they can't promise a perfectly even result, but it is an option, and one people don't always think about. It is a personal decision and I am not trying to recommend it, I just wanted to mention it in case it is a brand new idea. Personally, I am engaged, so I need to wait to see what my fertility has in mind, but I fully intend to get a consultation as soon as my doctor will refer me! Nothing wrong with asking.
Updated on November 28, 2016 Flag this
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Thanks maddy2596. So, would I put a 60J in my cart, add requested alterations in the comment section (3HC, straps moved in, etc.), and send an email referring to my order with the same alteration requests?
Also, I agree with the need to use a cookie. Not convenient, but a lot cheaper than surgery. (and yeah, as a sidenote, i'm done having babies...having nursed twins for a year is partly why I'm in this predicament ;-)
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I would send the email first to ask what label they want to give the wires thing and only order after you have it.
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helpfulHi NPBSH I would go for a couple of cups up if you need straps moved in and gore reduced. Find the size that is close to your horizontal/laying perimeter and go up a cup to accommodate said alalterations. In Comexim I've gone from 70N to 65P recently and I get straps moved in 3cm, reduced gore to 6.5cm, and an overlapping and narrowed gore. Along with reduced cups bc I am high set. Reducing the gore and moving the straps in takes away depth because the fabric is scaled down to make the fit more compatible, just like raising the gore gives a little extra depth in the center. I find that doing both overlapping and narrowed gore accommodates my close set/center full bust where my reduced gore tacts even if the cup is too small (like the Comexim Snow in 65O I just tried😒). I hope this helps.
Updated on December 10, 2016 Flag this
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Thank you for your suggestions! I'll definitely try that approach.
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Thanks for your comment, Prettyncharmeuse. Can you elaborate on how moving the straps in makes the cup fit smaller? In what way? I was also wondering about the impact of this one with the lower gore. Does that make the cup volume slightly smaller? With more center fullness, does it seem that I would need the gore lowered on the larger cup size? Or keep standard? (No Comexim gores have tacked on me in anything I've tried so far. 3HC in 60H/HH/J and Plunge 60H/J. The closest gore tack I got was in the 60J with overlapping wires, so not sure if it was the overlap that helped, the bigger cup, or both.)