Bra fitting help » Gore doesn't lay flat, asymmetrical floating gore despite correct size?
Freya » Hello Dolly Balcony Bra (1382) » 34J 34:13
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Thanks everyone! I'll try some of the models suggested for full-on-top breasts.
Original problem
I am new to the quest for a perfect bra, so I'm not sure whether this is my perfect size or not, but I think it should be fairly close. The gore doesn't come even close to sitting flat. At first, I thought the cups were too small (when I press the gore to my sternum, I get a lot of quadboob), but someone suggested that the shape might just be wrong for my full-on-top breasts. I am also wondering about how projection/cup width and depth fits into the picture. I have been told that I need a lot of projection with narrow wires, but I'm not entirely sure of that yet. This Hello Dolly is supposed to be narrower/more projected, and it didn't work any better than my wider, less projected Cleo Marcie.
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helpfulFreya gets kind of messed up in higher sizes. This looks like a size and shape issue to be honest. I think you'd do well in a more top heavy friendly 34JJ or 34J (it's hard to tell because this bra is just not for you). Unfortunately in your size range, there isn't much that works fantastically (people have trouble with the wires being too stiff in the supportive bras and shoulder pain the bras with weaker wires). Panache in general seems to be a popular option.
Updated on June 7, 2014 Flag this
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I agree that a more top heavy friendly bra in 34 J/JJ would work - already wrote that on reddit.
Panache Jasmine and Panache Colette is my recommendation, also maybe Cleo Lily.
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helpfulThis is much too small for you! Sizing can get really wacky in your size range, so it's more about the depth and height of the cup at this point--try a search by measurements on this site. Look at the difference between your horizontal perimeter, and the cup depth: there is a 4" difference. Measuring cup depth isn't always easy when you're new to it, so it's possible your measurement was a little off, but this is still a big discrepancy. I'd advise you to try models that give you at least 14.5" of depth.
Updated on June 7, 2014 Flag this
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You should have seen me in a 36DDD! Thanks for the tip about depth. That is definitely the measurement that confused me the most; I went back and tried again, and I think it's probably closer to 13" ... still too small, though. Is there a way to search bra listings by measurement?
Also, how do you see my measurements? Can I view the measurements of other users? Thanks so much.
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Your measurements are displayed only when you do a fitting request--you can't see measurements just by clicking on a profile.
To search by measurements, go to the "More" tab at the top and you'll see this search option. I would suggest you start out with a very simple search--stretched band length of 34 and 14.5 or 15" cup depth.
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With larger breasts the breast perimeter vs cup depth is not an accurate measurement, especially if there is some excess skin or soft tissue at play. I have a significant difference between the cup depth of the cups that fit me and my breast perimeter, from my measurements I would need approx 4 cups larger than those I find a good fit.
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t_maia this is absolutely true, even for me with my modest FFuk cup size. I need a cup depth which is 10-15% less than my actual perimeter, even 20% less in some cases if the wires are perfectly dimensioned for me and no space is wasted. But that is why I advised her to run a search for a cup depth that is smaller than her breast perimeter--if you search for 14.5 Bratabase will show you bras with cups that measure between 14.1" deep and 15, or something like that (the Dolly is, I think, a little bit insufficient at 13"; the models you recommended are all measured at 14.5" deep or more according to their entries here, so I feel we are thinking along the same lines in terms of the volume she might need).
Also, when someone is ordering online and does not have your, or other Bratabasers' vast knowledge of many existing models in different brands... well, someone may give them a suggestion or two, and if that works then they have one bra that fits--but most people want to find more! They have to start somewhere, and looking at actual measurements in inches will at least help a newbie get a sense of which models run bigger than others, which seems a good thing, especially since bra manufacturers are unfortunately completely chaotic with their sizing in this range. Sizing is much more reliable in my own size range, but since I am a difficult fit due to other parameters, I could literally try on dozens of bras if I searched by size alone without looking at measurements.
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helpfulAs mentioned above - Freya gets wonky above an H cup, and a lot of ladies have problems getting it to tack, but this shape definitely doesn't work for you either. You seem to have too much upper fullness, and Freya's unlined bras are definitely designed more with lower fullness in mind, so will not be the best brand for you.
You do need projection, but the projection needs to be in the right place. Panache Jasmine may be a good choice, since the top of the cup is stretch lace, which will mold to your breast shape better.
Cleo's fully banded bras might be worth trying (I know I couldn't fill the top of Natasha or Lana, so bras with that shape may work for you). You seem to have quite a lot of upper fullness, so while it doesn't work for most ladies, you might actually do well in Meg.
I'm very projected, and when I was in the J-K range, I swore by Bravissimo's house brand, but I don't have as much upper fullness as you (not sure if I did back then - wasn't very conscious of breast shape at the time), so take that with a grain of salt.
Updated on June 8, 2014 Flag this
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Thanks so much! The Jasmine is definitely on my list, and I would love to try the Meg. I think several of Bravissimo's bras are quite lovely too, so I am excited to hear they may work, though I'll have to save for a while... they tend to be a little harder to find used/at discounted prices.
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Yeah, Bravissimo is costly - the reason I haven't tried one in my new size yet. I do have a different shape than you, so I'm really not sure how they'll work out for you, but they do have the necessary projection.
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Thanks, I will keep that in mind. I haven't given up hope yet, and it's still a big improvement over what I was wearing before.