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Please read my review of this bra for fit issues. I have another bra(Wacoal awareness 36DDD) fitting under the username super382008 on here. This fits better than the Wacoal but still not right. Getting Closer!
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helpfulFreya bras, and especially the Arabella are known for having unusually long/stretchy bands. So, I wouldn't call this indicative of a 34 band at all. Based on your measurements, I think that you'd be most comfortable in a 34 band usually, but probably 32 in most Freya models. You only need a band which is sufficiently firm to stay in place and feel supported, and some women prefer their band a bit firmer than others. As long as the band doesn't ride up, and you don't distort the cups from an overly firm band, anything between is fine.
The cup also looks like it's too tall for you and possibly just too big all over. Arabella works best on breasts which have more lower fullness. Do you know if your breasts are fuller on the top or the bottom? http://brasihate.blogspot.co.uk/2013/02/clarifying-breast-shape-full-on-top-vs.html
In your size range, there's heaps of options, even taking shape into account. Do you like padded/unpadded bras, are you looking for the basic black/beige colours or something a bit more fancy? This info plus a bit more on your breast shape (at least if you're fuller on top/bottom) could be helpful for making futher suggestions.
If you wanted to try the Arabella in a different size, I'd suggest that 32 FF would be the best one to try, but I'm not sure if it's the best cut for your shape. I'm not super sure, but you may have short breasts as well, meaning that the height of your breasts is noticeably less than the height of the bra cup you need to fit in your width and projection.
Updated on February 19, 2014 Flag this
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3.) No matter the style or size of bra whether it fits me or mot, my breast tissue always form a "crease" at the junction of my upper breast tissue and chest wall?
don't take this a threat to your suggestion. This is only meant as questions to help me find one that fits!
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The crease is probably from a bra which lacks enough depth, but at the same time, this bra is too wide and too tall for you. You don't fill the top of the bra at all, and you seem to have a gap between your breast root and where the wires end on the side. Because this bra is so wide and tall, I think it's compromising your support and may be one of the contributions to the slightly minimised look. I think that the smaller size will be more stable on you, but you may find that it's too shallow to wear. I can't really call that, it could go either way I think.
Unfortunately, most bras are designed with the assumption that women's breasts of the same volume are reasonably uniform in dimensions, and they definitely aren't! I'm in a different size range to you, but I have short, narrow breasts with quite a bit of projection, and with you saying that all bras you try mean you have that crease in the top corner, I'd be inclined to think you probably have a similar shape. If you want to see this in action, I have a bra adventure where I've tried the same cut of a bra in 3 different cup sizes. http://www.bratabase.com/profile/34h/adventures/3019/ The smallest size is spot on for wire width and cup height, but even the biggest size is too shallow for me. Your difference doesn't seem to be that pronounced, but you will do better with bras which are short and somewhat narrow.
Things which you could try include the Masquerade Persia (good for deep/Omega shaped breasts) and possibly a Comexim bra with reduced cup height. Reviews of the Persia seem to suggest it runs pretty firm, so I'd suggest going for your higher preferred band size (in your case the 34). I've had some wins with half cups, but my breasts are very firm, so I'm not sure if that will work for everyone with short breasts or not. Pinging drownedsalad - I know you have short boobs in a similar size range. Have you found anything which you found to be super good?
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Short boobs suck. You will have to decide which fit parts are more important to you.Hi super382000!
I'm in a similar size range (mostly 34FF-GG) as you with short torso, short boob, rounded ribcage (smaller frame width to depth ratio which causes too-wideset straps), squishy boobs, and squishy outer layer issues.1. I would suggest going down to 32s for most bras and 34s for some (depending on the brand), but get a few extenders to ease yourself into it. Though band tightness is more of a personal preference sometimes going for the longer band starts to affect how the wires are positioned on the bra. I think the wires and straps on this bra are too wideset for you and it might be because you need it in a 32. Keep an eye out for what you prefer and remember not all bra styles/brands are the same... ever. Always try a range if you can.
2. The gap at the strap placement is basically because your boobs are shorter vertically than most bra manufacturers think they are supposed to be. It shows up as a crease on some people. (For some, that crease can be emphasized if the boobs are lifted on a flat plane up and "folded" toward the body by a bra instead of lifted and support from the full surface area of the bottom and front of the boobs. Squishier boobs can get some crease relief with styles that hold the boobs closer to the chest.)
3. Freya unpadded are likely not going to work for you without some kind of alteration or acceptance of waffly cup tops. (I keep a Freya around in 34GG because the bottom fits okay, but the tops are just waffly.)
However...
4. If you're newer to this bra-fitting thing? Your boobs will adjust a little and might even out (upward). This can make bras that did not fit before fit better in a few months.5. AS for the minimizing? It is going to happen. You will not be able to find a bra that supports your boobs exactly where they are naturally. There is going to be some lift and push toward your body. This is especially true if you have shorter boobs because anything that fits your actual depth will be too tall in the cup for you.
Solution? LOL I haven't found any yet!
Okay, so I do get by with stretch lace for now.
My favorites:
Chantelle Rive Gauche 3 Part Cup (3281)
for you, 32/34FF (that's 70/75H). I'd say 32FF with an extender for comfort.Panache Andorra Full Cup (5675)
for you, 32/34 FF/G/GG. My guess would be 32GG for you. Wires might have to be curved.The sizing for the andorra may seem weird, but I really think it would be good if you can try on all 6 sizes at the same time, preferably in the same colorway. I don't know if you have a local store that will carry that many of them, but I think it will really help for you to see the differences among them. You get to see how the fit changes when you go up a cup size or down a band.
Try Elomi if you can, but they are always too tall in the cup for me.
Other options might be shorter-cupped Comexim (haven't tried yet) or shorter-cupped Wacoal (Wacoal All Dressed Up Underwire Bra (851166) seemed to work for me, though too small cups) if you can figure out your sizes in them.
I'd also try out some halfcups, but it's kind of hit or miss. If you find one that fits your full depth, you might not fill it to the brim and the wires might be too wide. Going down cup sizes might help, but might not.
At the end of this all... you're going to have to decide what's most important to you and your bra fit. For me, if the bra fits everywhere else, I can deal with a bit of waffling at the tops. Sometimes smaller cups are the solution. Some cuts just plain don't work. For my comfort, it's more important that the bra holds everything in place enough I can jump up and down without too much bouncing. Your preferences might be different.
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Oh, and the crease? Sometimes it's just because a person's boobs have more definition at the edges than others. I don't really have it; I'm squishy all over.
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Here is a link to a site where I have uploaded pictures of my naked breasts. I really need help determining my breast shape and finding bras that will fit.
I have no idea to accurately describe my breast shape.
This were taken just about a month ago and I have lost probably 15 pounds since then by dieting and workout.
Here is a link to my naked breast pictures
Thanks for helping in advance.
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helpfulThis is a cup size too big and a band size too big. I'd look at 32FF and see how that works. It looks like the Arabella has the potential to work really well on you though!
Updated on February 23, 2014 Flag this
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I really appreciate the suggestion. One thing that I have a major concern about, after reading several blogs and such are these concerns:
1.) why does it seem to minimize my breasts? not enough cup depth? Wont dropping down to a 32ff only decrease the amount of cup depth?
2.) What is causing the gap at the cup/strap connection area?
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3.) No matter the style or size of bra whether it fits me or mot, my breast tissue always form a "crease" at the junction of my upper breast tissue and chest wall?
don't take this a threat to your suggestion. This is only meant as questions to help me find one that fits!
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Here is a link to a site where I have uploaded pictures of my naked breasts. I really need help determining my breast shape and finding bras that will fit.
I have no idea to accurately describe my breast shape.
This were taken just about a month ago and I have lost probably 15 pounds since then by dieting and workout.
Here is a link to my naked breast pictures
Thanks for helping in advance.
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1) I didn't realize it was minimizing you. Is there enough depth for you? I think a smaller cup will give you more uplift, so your breasts might be closer to your chest, but I don't think they'll move around as much.
2) Too much volume causes a too wide cup, which in turn means unfilled space in the cup.
3) It sounds like you have short projected full on bottom breasts. I have to use excessive force to make that crease. Everyone's breasts are different.
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helpfulOne or two (I'm leaning towards two) cup sizes too big. When you go down to the right cupsize, the band will feel firmer.
Updated on February 20, 2014 Flag this
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Here is a link to a site where I have uploaded pictures of my naked breasts. I really need help determining my breast shape and finding bras that will fit.
I have no idea to accurately describe my breast shape.
This were taken just about a month ago and I have lost probably 15 pounds since then by dieting and workout.
Here is a link to my naked breast pictures
Thanks for helping in advance.
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helpfulMy breasts are shaped similarly and I look that way when I am in in Freya in 38JJ/K. I usually need a 40H/HH.
So the cups are the wrong size and also the wrong shape. I would recommend you try a completely different brand. The cups of Freya are just too tall for you, they require more upper fullness than you have. I think Felina might work well for you as a brand.
Updated on March 1, 2014 Flag this
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helpfulI'd like to humbly submit that the sizing here is just so far off that it's hard to start assessing breast shape and whatnot! I wouldn't jump to conclusions that your shape is going to be hard to fit just yet--I think once you are in a more supportive and comfortable size, you'll get a clearer idea of whether you really need to worry about finding a specific shape or not.
I must agree with everyone else that Freya bands are stretchier than freshly chewed gum--try a 32FF for sure if your next attempt is a Freya. If it's a different brand, read up on them to find out if they run firm (aka tight) or loose, and if this other brand's bands also run loose, again try a 32. If the 32FF still seems kinda baggy in the cup, try a 32F.
I would also like to bring up the fact that you find it "minimizing"--I'm not completely positive what you mean by this? Does it mean that you just notice it is holding in the breast more than what you were used to with the bras you wore in the past? If you were previously wearing bras that were very loose and did not offer much of any uplift, then a well-fitting bra that offers comfortable support will indeed hold in the breast a LOT more than what you were used to before. This is not a problem as long as you feel physically comfortable in the bra and DOES NOT mean it is too small.
Re: the measurements, measuring smaller in a bra than without is normal especially if you have larger, softer, more pendulous breast tissue which will naturally be more compacted when held in by a properly supportive bra. I currently measure 40.5in around the bust when naked, but 37in around when in a well-fitting bra! So as you can see, you can be held in even quite a bit more than you are in this particular bra, and still be A-OK as long as you don't feel any discomfort.
One thing I would add, having very soft breast tissue myself (it was fairly soft to begin with and after 2 pregnancies and nursing 2 babies for a long time), I now find that some of the breast shape/proportion problems I used to have when I was young and firm, have magically disappeared! Very soft breasts are extremely malleable and if I'm in an appropriate size, I don't usually have dealbreaker fit issues. Basically anything with good firm support and uplift that doesn't have incredibly tall cups or wide wires fits at least OK, and is very comfortable. One of the upsides of maturity
Re: the upper crease, I never used to have this when I was younger, but I do have this crease now in all bras regardless of fit. This is simply due to the fact that I now have softer breast tissue and looser skin that wrinkles more easily. It's not a problem either in and of itself. If you ever feel like your breast is tightly packed into the cup and you see actual breast tissue creasing in on itself very deeply, THAT is a problem and you will need a bigger cup size, or a different model of bra with a deeper cup.
Updated on March 3, 2014 Flag this
really appreciate the suggestion. One thing that I have a major concern about, after reading several blogs and such are these concerns:
1.) why does it seem to minimize my breasts? not enough cup depth? Wont dropping down to a 32ff only decrease the amount of cup depth?
2.) What is causing the gap at the cup/strap connection area?
cont'd below