Bra fitting help » trying to figure out my shape & what kind of bras I actually need
N By Natori » Infinity Contour Plunge (1330108) » 36H 36:8
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I am too center heavy for a bra with this low of a plunge to work. Cups too small, band far too big.
Original problem
Worst bra fit I've ever had. The band is way too big. I think the cups are too close together and too small -- and I guess that's what I'm wondering. Once the pictures that I took come up, does it look like these are both issues for me with cup fit? When I bend over slightly, my boobs fall right out. Is the issue here more that I'm center heavy than bottom heavy? My boobs are also wide set and splayed.
So, I'm just trying to figure it out... I've been thinking I'm bottom heavy, and that's correct, isn't it? It's just that I get quad boob from every Natori model I've ever tried, but I can wear Wacoal and sometimes Le Mystere in the same size. (The Le Mysteres never fit quite right.)
These cups fit me about like a DDD in Wacoal. Am I right that there's that much cup variation, or is it just that the cups in Natori bras are way too close for me -- that they push my boobs in and over the top of the cup?
Just for reference, here are two other requests I put up:
http://www.bratabase.com/troubleshoot/dlhds/
http://www.bratabase.com/troubleshoot/dlh6z/
Also, my other Natori -- not a plunge bra -- fits about the same way as this one:
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The band is huge for you and the cups are very much too small. This is a very low plunge and it may have worked if the cups were anywhere near the right size.
But then again it may not ever work for you if you have center fullness. Also I do not think Natori will be fore you since H is the biggest cup. Have you tried Freya or Curvy Kate? I noticed you wanted some wider things. Updated on July 16, 2014 Flag this
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Wow. This is probably 3 - 4 sizes small on you, in addition to the fact that that band is just enormous on you. I recommend looking into Elomi in 36H (it uses UK sizing so it's not going to be the same size as what you're wearing now) minimum or 36K in Goddess. Both of those brands, particularly Elomi tend to work in your size range and with your shape.
Updated on July 16, 2014 Flag this
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Should I go down a band size? This Natori is a 36. This website is recommending that I try 34. It's also telling me to go up several cup sizes. Actually, Elomi Caitlyn 34H is one of the recommendations.
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It's a very stretchy 36. I imagine you'd need a tight 36 or a loose 34. Unfortunately, I don't have any experience as to how Elomi sizes their bras so I don't know if a 34 or a 36 is a better size for you. I would personally order both sizes to see how they fit.
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It's so confusing. In Claudette and Natori, 34 is also too big. I'm really not a 32 though. In Evollove, a 36 is best, but I can get by with a 38. I have some extenders, so I may try buying 34 from now on. I don't know.
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So I think this fits best of everything I've added here, or at least looks like it fits best. It's not super comfortable, and seems not incredibly sturdy. But I think Fayreform runs big in the cups -- this is only brand in which I've been able to fit into an FF cup:
http://www.bratabase.com/bra/dlh6c/#
It has fairly high center gore and very high underwire. What does this mean? Are my breasts tall?
I tried a Panache in 34FF that was at least 3-4 sizes too small in the cups. It seems like there's no rhyme or reason to any of the sizing. It's just wildly different from brand to brand and model to model.
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Claudette is really really loose. Perhaps 34 true to size bands are more up your alley.
It looks like you need projection and shallow bras are just not what works for you.
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Wow yes this bra is quite spectacularly inadequate! I'd say this is at least 3, if not 4 sizes too small for you. You also clearly have quite a bit of inner fullness even though your boobs are very separate as we discussed on your other post. Low, low plunges aren't your friend unless the cups are perfectly dimensioned and spaced to match your own boob separation.
The thing is, once you get into the higher size ranges, cup dimensions are all over the place. Have you been searching by measurements to see options? I would enter a stretched band length of 35," a cup separation of 1.3", a cup depth of 14" and whatever cup width seems to encompass all your breast tissue (measure a bra where the underwire width is about right, even if nothing else is good about it).
Updated on July 17, 2014 Flag this
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I have not done searches based on measurements -- I thought that's what the bratabase recommendations function did? I will try this. So I guess I would just put thesse things in the main search field? I can't find a search that allows me to enter those things separately.
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Ah, okay, I just found the search by measurements thing.
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All right, I got no results when I put all of those measurements in. So, I just put in the distance between breasts and the stretched band length. I got several results by Elomi in 34H and a Freya plunge bra that would be the wrong shape.
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Then I used a less tight ribcage measurement -- I put in 36 and stretched band length of 36. I got a list of Cleos in 34H recommended. So maybe Elomi and Cleo should be where I'm looking right now?
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I never put in the ribcage measurement, it seems to screw things up when I do. Inputting the band length, depth and a gore width I get
- Elomi Izzi, Eva and Persia in 34H;
- Elomi Suzie Plunge and Betty Plunge in 34HH;
- Panache Tango in 34J
- Elomi Valentina Plunge in 36H.It's not that you can't do plunges, it's just that you can't do plunges that are too open at the cup edge. So the above might be worth a shot. I definitely recommend trying some wireless ones as well.
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Thank you! Do Panache cups just run small in general? I'm pretty sure the 34FF I bought is about 5 sizes too small. It's smaller than this one.
Elomi does seem like it's going to be the safest brand for me.
So I guess I'm not especially shallow like I was thinking? It's just that I have more center fullness than fullness on the outer sides. My breast tissue extends back very far though. Maybe I'm slightly shallow in the outer part of my boobs?
So, projection is just... The length of the tissue that protrudes out from my body in a bra that mostly fits? I do have that, I think. My tissue isn't mostly attached to my torso.
I'm still not sure about root width vs. breast width, though. And I have no idea if my boobs are tall or not. I think at this point that the root is wide but the breast itself sort of medium? Not sure about their height, though I do need fully adjustable straps whenever possible.
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Panache runs shallowish or too closed-in at the cup edge for me in certain styles, but it depends on the model!
You can definitely have wide, projected boobs with a root that isn't very tall. All boob shapes are in nature :-)
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I haven't tried them yet. I think the straps look too far apart in Curvy Kate, but I'm open to trying anything. Also, do you have any idea how many sizes too small this would be in the cups? It reminds me of a DDD in Wacoal, and I have absolutely no idea how it compares to any UK brands. It's close to a Claudette I tried in 34FF, but some Fayreforms in 36FF nearly fit me.