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  Yes, gore height and strap width vary by bra. Oh, wait a second, do you mean the distance between straps as opposed to individual strap width? I'm not sure what the question is -- are you asking if you can customize these things or just if they vary? They all vary, but I'm not sure about customization.

  I think these cups are too small for you, and too shallow in the bottom. I think there's space in the bottom of the cup not because one side is smaller, but because the bottom is too shallow and you are too projected. The result is that you seem to be pushed down a little. I also think you are falling out of the cups because you have too much fullness in the center for this shape of bra. Also, your roots seem a lot taller than these cups.

  I don't see your measurements listed, so it's hard to judge the band. Can you fit more than 2-3 fingers inside the band when you stretch it out? It looks like the gore isn't flat, which may just be because the cups are too small. I also think you may need a gore that's slightly wider at the top?

  I would put off customized options until you get a better sense of your fit, which is kind of what I'm trying to do as well.

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  • Ah sadness :(. Well I guess I really should order the next size up from well fitting and see what happens.

    Also, I should post another picture or two after the strap adjustment I described. Oh and I did mean the distance between the straps. The actual strap size is fine but they want to be all up in my armpits. Sorry about that. Pulling them in closer does improve the fit a lot and gets rid of the quadboob. I don't actually fall out of the cup after that :). I looked at the picture that shows that problem and I think that pulling the strap and cup towards the center gets my breasts inside the cup where they should be (I hope anyway). I see what you are saying about tall roots though... Maybe a higher cup height would help? When I first tried it on I was afraid that I wasn't filling out the bottom, but now I really think I am (and that is where lefty is smaller.). I spent a lot of time on that actually. What makes you think I'm not filling out the bottom of the cup on the right side?

    I hate to say it but I was a little disappointed that the band wasn't tighter. My underbust measurement is 26". I can live with that though and buy a rixie clip.

    I'll post pictures with better strap placement after it dries. I have to say though, that aside from the strap and gore thing, this bra is comfortable. Insanely better than what I've been wearing. Not only that, but it's quite flattering. I don't feel like I'm being pushed down. Maybe it's not a perfect fit, but I really hope it's good enough. I'm starting to feel like the perfect fit for me doesn't exist :(. I'm also starting to realize that's a reality for a lot of other women...

    Bah. This is frustrating. :(. I do really appreciate the input though, even if it's not what I want to hear lol. I will definitely tale your advice and put off customizations until I get a better handle on what's going on. If the bra doesn't work, I'll be forced to admit it before wasting more money.

    If what you're saying ends up being right though, would you have any suggestions for what to try next? I really can't do unlined bras... Wish I could, but I can't.

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    I was thinking two cup sizes up, but I could be wrong about that?

    It looks like there is wrinkling in the bottom of the right side, but even if there isn't, that breast is spilling almost half out of the cup -- it appears that way at least. I know strap adjustment can sometimes hide fit problems, but that's not going to be very supportive in the long run.

    If Connexim makes a smaller band and you want to exchange this one, I'd go a band smaller and 2-3 cup sizes up. Have you put your measurements on here yet? I've found it helpful to type in my stretched band length and the amount of depth and width I need -- and then see what comes up. Since there's a fair amount of difference between the sides, it would be best to fit the larger side. Can you get a bra pads from the company to make up for the difference?

    That said, I'm not sure this bra is the best shape for you. No matter how much you size up, I think your roots are still going to be too tall for this model. I took a look at some of the other bras you've tried, and I'm curious why you're trying so many plunge bras? I actually think with properly fitting cups, you might find it easier to wear a bra with a taller gore because your breasts are so tall, you're separated and you have some center fullness. Also, it looks like you've been falling out of some of the cups you've been trying, so you probably need something less open on top. I might exchange this for a more full coverage bra from Connexim -- also a band smaller and 2-3 cup sizes bigger if their sizing is pretty consistent?

    I don't really know your size range well (I don't know MINE that well) so I don't know what to recommend. I understand the frustration. I recently got a Kris Line that was so soft and nice that I was determined to make it fit, but it just didn't. Again, I don't know your measurements, but I'd go for cups with at least an inch more depth than these have.

    I'm certainly not an expert on this, but I definitely think you need to go down in the band if you can -- and up at least 2 cup sizes if you do that.

  • I definitely agree that it looks like plunge style just might not be the ideal style for you. I wish I could say which style would work better, but Polish bras are basically the opposite of what I need, so I'm not terribly familiar with what styles they offer.

  • Hm. Well either later tonight or tomorrow morning I will post pictures so you can see what I'm saying. I'm really interested to see what you'll think. As far as filling out the bottom of the cup goes, it's something that I'll know for sure after wearing it more. I will get better pics of that as well, maybe we can figure it out sooner. The pictures that are up now are with a bad strap fit, and that affects how the rest of it fits even if you're totally right.

    So, about the band size... You said you aren't familiar with my size range, so let me tell you what a nightmare it is lol. I need a 26 band size, which literally DOESN'T EXIST in any US or UK brand as far as I know. Comexim is the only brand I know of that makes it (they go by cm so it's 55 rather than 26 but it's the same size). The sizes listed on their site starts at a 60 band (that's 28 UK/US). Getting a 55 is considered a customization... One they are known for doing, but still. For some reason wellfitting, where I bought this one, does carry 26 like a normal size. I'll ask if I can get a 50 but I've never heard of them doing it. At least someone has invented the rixie clip!

    The cleo neve and freya strapless I bought because a professional fitter told me they fit. They don't, at all. Talk about not filling out the bottoms of the cups, lol. A couple I have tried mostly because they were free shipping and returns on amazon and I wanted to try whatever to help me figure out what works and doesn't. When your ribcage is this small it's slim pickings... And my shape just makes it infinitely worse. An experienced bratabaser recommended comexim and specifically this model. With my size and narrow shape, Polish brands are pretty much it for me... Add the fact that I can't wear unlined bras and I'm really running out of options. I don't even know if I can get this band size from another Polish brand.

  • Hmm, so they wouldn't do a 50 even as a customization since their band is too stretchy for you?

    If you can find something that fits in the cups, you could get a tailor to alter a 28 band to a 26. I don't like to buy things knowing I'll have to alter them myself, and I don't want to have to buy a sewing machine... But that wouldn't be a very expensive alteration to pay for, and you may have to do that at that band size.

    Which model is this? I'm looking at the Comexim site now. Is it the Elena? Just offhand, most of what I'm seeing at this website looks like it wouldn't be tall enough for your boobs. Will any of the other Polish companies customize to a 50 or 55 band? If Melissa Dessous will do it, I saw a lot more shape ranges at their site yesterday than I'm seeing from Comexim, including for taller shapes. Also, their bras are made of cotton (!!!) and flax, and are mostly $30 US or less. Looking at the Ewa Michalak site, it's harder for me to imagine what the smaller sizes would look like. But they strike me as too wide and probably not tall enough.

    I think I may be sized out of Melissa Dessous in the cups, but someone here told me yesterday that they were great to deal with in English by email -- and that they run about 2 cup sizes smaller than UK sizes.

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  I'll add that this particular model - the Comexim Basic, I've been told runs half a size smaller in the cup than comexim's other padded bras.

  I have a tall root as well, and this sadly didn't work for me at all. The way the top of the cup curves inward would cause my breasts to bulge out the top regardless of what size I ordered. I also need a taller gore because my boobs are very heavy in center. If you try a size or two up and find your boobs falling out in the middle, or find the gore stabby, it means that a plunge is not going to be ideal for you no matter who makes it. I personally felt the basic's gore was wide, in spite of everyone disagreeing with me. I expect that's because my boobs really want to be in the middle of my chest, and a plunge is going to let them be wherever they want, since there's no gore to keep them apart.

  So far, the only polish brand that works for me at all with a tall root is Kris Line, and only the half-padded styles. I do have to remove the elastic seam from under the top portion of the cup, but once I do that, they're very cozy. Much more of a full-fit style than anything Comexim or Ewa Michalak make, with a much taller gore, but that's precisely why they work. There are a few Polish brands I haven't tried yet, so can't comment much on them until I do.

  That said, if the band is too big for you, the straps will also be too wide. It's almost implied if one is true the other will be as well, since the placement of the straps is often relative to the size of the band. That doesn't mean you don't need straps set closer together - a lot of ladies do - but if you feel this band is a size to big for you, then it makes perfect sense that the straps are also too far apart.

  You can see a crease forming at the bottom of the cup on both breasts in several of these pictures, which reinforces what others have said about the cup not being deep enough. Unfortunately, until you try it in the right size, you won't really be able to tell for certain if you're going to be able to make this cut work for you.

  The good news is wellfitting is awesome about exchanges, so if you try a size and it doesn't work, Anna is excellent about helping you pick one that does. You just have to exercise some patience, as the shipping and construction are quite time consuming. I don't know if they do any customizations through the wellfitting site, but I have read that strap width, gore height, and cup height are known customizations comexim does, but it depends on the cut of the bra and the fabric which customizations are going to be feasible for which bra. The only way to know is to ask.

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  • The thing with Kris Line is that their gores are very close-set, and I think Maggie26 has some separation and may need a slightly wider gore as well as a taller one. I'm not sure I'd recommend Kris Line for her either. Have you ever tried Melissa Dessous?

  • Kris line is narrow in the gore, yes, though I don't see in these pictures the extreme separation. If they fit well otherwise, this might turn out to be a fair fit regardless, due to the gore height and depth at the center of the cup where it looks like she might need it-not across the board though, only the half padded full cup style might work. Gorsenia is another option eith a wider gore, but I'm not sure they make bands small enough.

    I haven't tried melissa dessous. I looked up a model or two when you mentioned them earlier, and for me the wires would be more than excessively too wide if the numbers are at all accurate, so it's not in the plan at the moment.

  • Hm. Well I'll definitely order the next two sizes up in the cup... But is it even possible for me to go down in the band? In ANY brand? Are there other Polish brands that make 26/55 bands? My underbust measurement is a true 26" so another brand or a comexim that runs tight might be ok. I suppose asking for narrower straps and wearing a rixie clip or taking in the band is an option if nothing else is... When I was on the Ewa site I didn't see any 55 bands.

    Comexim is the only brand I know of that even goes down to a 26/55... Someone please please please correct me if I'm wrong lol.

  • I'm not sure how to calculate extreme separation -- apparently I have it, but I had no idea I was unusually wide-set until I got on this site. I have almost the width of 3 fingers in between my breasts at the top, but then they're splayed apart.

    In any case, to me it looks like the gore of this particular Comexim model is too thin. But honestly I may be hypersensitive to the width of gores because it's one of my main fitting issues, and you may be right that it wouldn't matter as much in a bra that fit otherwise. But on the other hand... With such a small ribcage, I would think every little thing would matter even more, so that the separation here may be more "extreme" in proportion to ribcage size than it would be for me with a 34 band size.

  • Maggie26 At the very least, I would email companies known to do customization and ask if they would be willing to do a 50 band size for you. Honestly, I'd get 50 if you can because you can always use an extender for a while -- and it's my impression so far that the Polish bands are stretchy. In Kris Line, I would need to go down to a 32 from my usual 34. Or at least... Find out if the brand runs stretchy in the band, and if so, ask if they can do a 50 for you. I don't see why they can't do whatever you need if they're custom making the bra to fit you. Basically, I'd send an email once you figure out a standard size for yourself that says, "This is what I need. Can your company do this?"

  • We pick our battles. I'm fairly close set, but it's more the center heavy shape that demands a narrow gore, since the boobs crowd toward the middle. There are things we can live with if everything else is close to perfect, but in this small band size, I think the goal is to find a bra that has the needed cups and straps, because if that's right, the band can br altered.

    Have you tried figleaves house brand, Maggie26? They only go down to 30, but several models run quite small. Some of the 30s only stretch to 27 inches (others are looser, but most 30s are really 28s). Trellis is known for running very small. It might fit well enough to be worth altering the band down.

  • Hm. Well I'll definitely order the next two sizes up in the cup... But is it even possible for me to go down in the band? In ANY brand? Are there other Polish brands that make 26/55 bands? My underbust measurement is a true 26" so another brand or a comexim that runs tight might be ok. I suppose asking for narrower straps and wearing a rixie clip or taking in the band is an option if nothing else is... When I was on the Ewa site I didn't see any 55 bands.

    Comexim is the only brand I know of that even goes down to a 26/55... Someone please please please correct me if I'm wrong lol.

  • Maggie26 - I'm not sure if they still do, but I know Ewa Michalak also offered 26 bands as a custom order at one point, but unlike comexim, each customization you request is at additional cost. I was told about 20PLN for each customization.

    As far as the band sizing on kris line mentioned above, it's hellishly inconsistent, but more or less true to UK sizing. Looking on their website, I see nothing under a 65 band, so actually they won't be ideal for you, excepting maybe the ones that run uncommonly tight. Even then, you'd need a rixie or to alter down the band. Pity, because the shape would probably work alright.

    Some of Avocado's bras might work (not all) in terms of band length (Haven't tried the brand yet so can't comment on shape). The Kyoto's 60 band is listed as stretching to only 26-27 inches, as is the Albertine, for example, but the Annik in Love is listed as stretching to 28. So it looks like some of these styles might be closer to a good fit in the band without even needing a custom order, if the shape works for you.

  • Sorry for the late reply! Although it's just as well because now I'm seeing some comments I didn't before... Probably due to the fact that my phone is also my computer right now.

    Anyway,I don't think I have "extreme" separation... Without a bra they don't touch each other, but I can only fit (a small)finger between them. But I'm also new to all this, so I don't really trust my ideas yet haha. Maybe KristinR is right about the proportion thing. Either way, it's a good reminder that I need to keep in mind that even though I have similar issues to other women, mine's often a scaled-down version. I helped a friend figure out what her starting point size would be, and we've got the same cup size. But a 26F looks pretty different from a 34F. Definitely something to think about!

    Anyway! I like your somewhat different ideas... If I'm ordering a custom bra I aught to be able to get a 50 and wear an extender if the band runs stretchy. I mean, it's not like I'm even between sizes, I'm a true 55/26! But still, sayitifyoumeanit has a great point too that if something fits in the cups and straps then that is a success and the band is easily altered. I actually did have a couple figleaves bras that I loved. While the nordstrom fitter exaggerated my band size in order to sell me bras, she didn't do a bad job with my shape. My 30C figleaves bras were tighter than what I was wearing before so I thought they were great. Now that I'm a couple cup sizes bigger and know what my true band size is, I thought they were off the table. I don't remember the straps being an issue the way they are with my current bras, so I'm hopeful. I'll see if I can find something that works. Thanks for the suggestion :D.

    You ladies have given me a lot of suggestions and brand names, and I feel like I've got a great starting point again. I never imagined that something like getting a bra that fits could be so difficult and overwhelming... But it sure does make me thankful that other women who struggle with it are willing to help :)So, thank you!!

  • Ah shoot... I just took a look at the figleaves site. It looks like all they have are unlined and sports bras. I am looking for a good sports bra, but their bands start at 32 :( My old figleaves bras were simple t-shirt bras, but what I wouldn't give to have a simple well-fitting t-shirt bra now haha. What a shame if they don't make them anymore!

  • That's odd. I was just there a few days ago. They definitely make a tshirt bra (not sure if it's one of their firmer bands or not). Maybe they're out of stock in your size atm. I personally hate tshirt bras-they never fit me right, so I forget to think about that as being important to some ladies. They're off my radar. :)

  • I actually went back to look again because I had heard they carried a t shirt bra recently. For whatever reason it didn't show up in the "DD+" search even though I want to try it in a 30DD. The one that I had is discontinued but there's another model - I'm not sure if the shape is similar. I don't think there's a lot of info about it on bratabase.

    I was also looking up some other padded figleaves bras, but the reviews and measurements on bratabase suggest that they're all for wide and shallow breasts.

    Ah well. It looks like they have a free shipping thing right now, so I think I'll try the t-shirt bra. I used to think that t-shirt bras were the "easy" bras to get... Now I see them as a necessary evil. So difficult to find one that fits well, but my skin and wardrobe can't put up with unlined bras. So the search continues.

    (I think it was you who suggested I try unlined curvy kate to test out shape. I found one that seemed to be a great fit - minus the too-big 28 band - but I couldn't deal with it being unlined so I sent it back to amazon. But I would've been tempted to keep it had it been cheaper haha.)

  • I'm in the opposite boat. As much as it would be amazing to have one plain beige moulded bra, it's just not going to happen for me. My boobs are much happier in unlined bras, and I don't worry about a hint of seam now and again. I don't like fitted tops though, so I'm sure that probably affects bra choice. I've heard the padded ones are shallow, yeah. I don't know why all the companies to that, padded bras are always wide and shallow, only unlined are narrow and projected. Because if you have narrow boobs, apparently, you have no interest in a little extra coverage now and again. The Polish brands get it. The US brands are clueless across the board. I'm not sure why the UK brands are space cadets about this particular thing.

    I may have suggested it. I don't recall! lol. But you found one that has a good shape, so should be able to look for bras more to your taste that may have a similar shape.

  • I know... That drives me nuts. I don't understand why both shapes aren't available in both styles. A little seam showing through is one thing. But I've never tried one that wasn't obscene haha. There's no way I can feel comfortable with everyone being able to see my nipples. Beyond that, I have really sensitive skin and the fabric of the ones I've tried have irritated me. I'm pretty sure that would really be an issue if I was wearing them all day. It's such a shame because it takes so many options off the table.

  • Aah, prominent nipples, then. I'm lucky not to have that issue. If you do happen to find one that fits well and is comfortable, nipple guards are an inexpensive option. I'm not sure how comfortable they are, but they're cheap enough to be worth trying.

  • I have thought of nipple gaurds... I aught to look into them more. Although like you said, I'm not sure about the comfort... and if it would be much help with irritating fabric if it's just covering my nipples. I've also wondered if I could basically add my own lining by sewing in some soft fabric into the whole cup, but my sewing skills aren't that good yet.

  • Yeah, I don't generally have fabric issues, though lacey bras can sometimes get itchy for me when they're a bit too snug, or if it gets too hot. You may just have much more sensitive breasts than I do. Not all fabrics are created equal, so the only way to be sure is to try things that look different from the ones you've tried before (with free returns, or course).

    Adding a lining does sound a very feasible solution - maybe a basic cotton, which should be non-irritating, if you ever dare to improve your sewing skills to try.

  • My skin in general is pretty sensitive so it doesn't surprise me at all that bra fabric that is fine for many women is irritating to me. I love the look of those lacy bras but they're just not practical for my skin or wardrobe :(.

    I think I'll see if I can find any tutorials for adding lining to bras :D

  • I bet you could make the lacy ones look cute with a different color non-irritating fabric sewn in. It would be like adding a contrast color.

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  Hey, I just wanted to let you know that I received an email from Melissa Dessous last night. I'd contacted them wondering if I could get customization even if I size out of their standard cup sizes. I also asked if they could make different cup sizes on each side to allow for size difference. They essentially told me they could do whatever customizations I would need at no additional charge, including different cup sizes on each side. I would encourage you to get in touch with them over email when you're ready to order a customized bra.

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  • That sounds fantastic!!! One concern though - sayitifyoumeanit mentioned that she thought the wires are too wide. Do either of you know if they're wider than the comexim basic? The narrow wires of this bra do seem to suit me. But maybe they'd be willing to change that too?!?

    I will definitely look into this brand... The possibility of customization make me hopeful. :D Thanks for telling me about it!! I hadn't even heard of them until now :)

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  This bra is too small for you, you have a lot of tissue in your armpits and the side of the bra is cutting into it - it's too short! That's why you have gaping (when you use your muscle, it pulls the bra away). That big amount of tissue under your arms should be inside the cup! This bra may not really work for you in any size.

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  • Actually, I can't seem to get rid of that armpit fat no matter what bra I'm wearing. My cleo neve has wings that are too high and cut in painfully, and even with that bra it happens. Perhaps it's migrated tissue from wearing ill fitting bras and it's too late to move it back? :(

  • No, it's normal place for the tissue, if it migrates down you will just have saggy breasts. In many bras the part between the underwire and the strap is just too short and rough and does not stretch. In some bras the bigger the size the longer gets this part. in other bras this part is short in any size.
    Anyway this bra is too small for you so try bigger size or other style. When a bra cuts into your tissue like this one in the photo, it's very bad for health.

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