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Curvy Kate » Luxe Strapless Bra (CK2601) » 30HH 30:12
Issue resolved
I've sent it back, knowing it was too large in the cup with probably other issues. I'll keep thinking on if I want to try a smaller cup or a different bra altogether.
Original problem
Hi! I've never actually done a fitting request before, but here goes.
Basically, I really want a strapless bra, but I'm not sure this fits right and I can't decide if I should keep it.
Also, the folding at the armpits a bit, is that normal?
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helpfulhi,
in your photos, the bra is being worn too low. the bottom of the cups aren't being filled by your boobs. there's just empty space and wrinkling. you can see this in photos 1, 3, and 15. (the bra is worn higher (but still a little too low) in photo 4 with the straps.) pull up the bra so that your inframammary fold lines up with the wire - in other words, so that your boobs fill the entire bottom of the cup. and then see if there's still the other wrinkling issue at the top of the cups.
so yeah take some more photos if you can, and update us
Updated on December 6, 2014 Flag this
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Yes, the typical cause is a band too tight. It naturally forces itself down where the perimeter and pressure is less.
You should try a 32 band and much smaller cups.(My current breast perimeter is +6 or +7 cm larger than yours with similar or slightly smaller underbust, and 30GG fits me perfectly - I don't really see how you could possibly fill a 30HH if your measurements are up-to-date).
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I disagree. Strapless bras slide down because the band is too loose, not too tight. Besides, a bra that stretches to 32" is plenty big on a comfortably snug at 28.5" rib cage. This downward shift is caused by a lack of immediate projection in the cup. That's why she can't get the wire up to her intermammary fold.
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Sliding down is not always caused by loose band. In fact, the problem here is not with sliding but with sitting way under the infra-mammary fold even with the straps attached; and she reported that this is a common problem for her not only with this bra but generally with many. Lack of immediate projection is a typical problem of too-tight band, where the wires are being pulled and the bottom of the cup is flattened and fit is distorted. When the cups are so much larger than needed, even the tightest band can feel loose.
Stretched band measurements include the wires, so you can always get away with a much tighter band than you need provided that cups are large enough - but that screws up fit and support. -
While that could and would happen if I wrapped a 30 band around my ribs, it would not happen around someone whose tight measurement is a mere 4 cm larger than the unstretched band size. Unless curvy kate decided to make this band from non-stretch material (they didn't), that's an illogical suggestion for you to keep insisting on the validity of.
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I'm not intending to argue with you, as you're clearly missing my point. I've seen enough people having similar fit issues and how they could be solved.
If Quixii wishes to try solving the problem along with this advice she can report back whether it was helpful or not. -
No, I get it. Your point is when underwires are yanked open, cups get flatter.
Then you were a little rude about her perimeter measurement not being as big as yours.
You never bothered to take into account the shape of the bra.C.K. Luxe 30HH (cm)
Stretched band 81.3
Underwire width 16.8
Cup depth 27.9E.M. Cappuccino 65GG (cm)
Stretched band 72.6
Underwire width 14.5
Cup depth 27.7
(I pulled this info from your bras)So if you pay attention to the bra measurements, you'll note the cup's "depth" is not being pulled wide and flat by taut elastic around the torso of the wearer, but rather by the width of the underwire itself.
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No, that wasn't my point -
And wowow, Goodness, "rude about her perimeter"? What? If referring to measurements in a factual and completely neutral manner while giving a fit advice is rude (why? because in your world having lesser boob perimeter is inferior? I certainly do not live in that world, and I'm sorry for you that you do) then I don't really know what to say other than sorry.
Please note that for some reason you made this discussion very personal, which it wasn't, until you had me at "*illogical* suggestion for you to keep *insisting* on the validity of" - this is not disagreeing, this is namecalling, which is why I told you I'm not interested in arguing with you.
I can't see what you're trying to prove by comparing it to the PL Cappucino (which doesn't fit me anymore but whatever, how is picking some single bra of mine even relevant), so kudos to you for twisting a genuinely kind piece of advise - which you're entitled to disagree with - into a parade of personal accusations for reasons that are beyond my comprehension.
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Oh that's too bad, because if that wasn't your point, you're right, I must have missed it entirely and I probably need it explained again.
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And I'm sorry you felt name-called when I said the suggestion was illogical.
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Okay, now I'm a bit confused with all the, uh, discussion going on.
I'm pretty sure my bands aren't too tight. When I try looser bands they feel really loose to me. And I don't think a looser band makes sense with my measurements.
As I've mentioned elsewhere, I got this large a cup because I WAS this size, but I've recently changed sizes and I'm not quite sure how to address it yet. I understand that these cups are too large, though I'm also a bit confused because they don't feel as too large as some other too-large cupped bras have felt.
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Quixii , like both ladies here said earlier in the conversation, this problem is because the bra does not provide enough lower projection for you! :) For example, the bottom of the cup (projection from the bottom of the underwire) should be more straight out, like __ , but instead, it's doing this: \ . So essentially, the depth of your breasts at your underbust is much deeper than the depth at the underbust at the bra. So, your breasts are getting smushed into the bottom, and then migrate upwards into a deeper area of the cup (while simultaneously pushing the bra down on your body). Unfortunately, this problem is one you will run into with almost ANY molded cup, and almost all strapless bras I have seen are molded cups!
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P.S. this bra is FLIPPING ADORABLE and I want one.
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Oh, yeah!
So, now that we're about 8 months later, I feel I have a pretty good understanding of several of the fit issues of this (and similar) bras. Definitely not enough lower projection. Now that I'm wearing my Comexims all the time, which are narrow in the cups and have a lot more lower projection, I'm kind of amazed these bras didn't feel as wrong before. Now when I take of my bra I see the wire imprint is just along my breast, instead of an inch or more away from it. And the support is better too.I'm still not sure what to do about strapless bras. I really really want one. There's so many styles of clothing I want to wear, but can't wear with a normal bra. And I'm uncomfortable without a bra. But it doesn't seem that it's meant to be, at the moment.
I wonder why so few companies have lower projection. Are there really so many women with breasts that require no lower projection?
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helpfulhaha couldnt see your measurements because I was looking at your review, not your request! So see here, I can see that your perimeter measurements range from 9.5 to 10.8, depending. For me (very soft, pendulous breasts) my laying is smallest and seems closest to what fits.
Anyways the bra depth is 11 inches - which is an inch and a half bigger than your smallest perimeter. So probably a good chance this cup is too big.
the cups are all different in different bras - I always look at cup depth before buying a new bra to make sure I get the right cup size for that specific bra. I am anything from an HH to a K,or maybe even an M in those polish bras.
Updated on December 6, 2014 Flag this
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helpfulYou need a more open and short cup. If you go a size down in this bra, it will only cut to your breast muscle even more. The underwire is also the wrong shape for you that's why there is empty space at the sides.
You better search for anther strapeless.Updated on December 6, 2014 Flag this
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Any suggestions for another strapless?
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unfortunately i couldn't find a proper strapeless myself :( they were all the same as yours, cutting into upper part of my breasts
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helpfulHmmm. I agree with the others this is too big for you. I don't know yet if I agree with fain that there is no point trying the smaller size. Since cups are graded there is a chance that the exact spot where a 30H or 30GG cup "cuts in" might be less bothersome (those cups will be narrower and less tall, so they might cut in somewhere where you are more malleable and don't feel it as much). So perhaps it is worth a try even knowing that this issue may prove persistent.
How much of a pain would it be to exchange this for a smaller size? Would you lose any money by it? Obviously those factors can influence your interest in this particular bra as opposed to another one altogether.
You do look rad in your tie dye tank though
I hope you can find a strapless that works!Updated on December 6, 2014 Flag this
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see, my only concern about going down a size is that there is so much empty space at the bottom - can that be caused by just a too-big cup, or does that always mean not enough projection? I guess if this bra is hitting her armpits, she cant hike it up tho, huh
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Yes, empty space at the bottom can be caused by several things-- too much volume in the cup overall (cup too big) as well as by lack of projection. I have several Empreinte bras in my closet that have probably the deepest cup construction you can find and that used to fit me perfectly when I was about 11-11.5" in boob perimeter. Now I've lost weight and my boobs are closer to 10" around, there is obvious wrinkling and empty space both above and below the boob.
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Thanks for the thoughts.
I knew this was probably too big (you might have seen my adventure about having shrunk overall and being a bit confused about it). The last time I tried on a strapless, the cups ran really small, so I ordered my old size for this "just in case," especially since there wasn't a lot of info about this particular bra up yet. I should probably try down a size or two.And thanks. I do love that shirt. :)
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I think this particular make and model is a waste of your time. On top of the immediate projection problem, which, in a strapless, = no support as soon as that foam develops a fold, you still have the problem of the underwires being too wide and the cup being too tall so it's all up in your pits.
If you had a formal event to attend, and the need was dire, this might be necessary. However, I think this tank would sit better over a legit bra, and a coordinating or black thin strap would look totally fine.
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Yeah, I had a regular bra I liked to wear under shirts like this, but I outgrew it. Now all bras available to me have the straps way wide/in my armpits, while the straps for shirts are, well, not, so they don't line up at all and look ridiculous.
I don't have immediate need, I just miss getting to wear fun dresses with different strap or strapless formations. -
Ah, of course.
You should make the leap to ewa michalak and comexim.
As far as strapless, the best one I know of right now, (and I've never tried the strapless deco myself) is wacoal's red carpet. You'll have to sister size into whatever is least awful, but the wires aren't crazy wide and the bands are pretty firm.
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I'd like to try, but I get nervous about the different language and potentially the shipping, especially since I apparently have no idea what my size is now.
I'm reluctant to try any Decos, because when I tried the regular Decos, they did all sorts of weird fitting things on me.
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Proportions can change a great deal when your boobs get bigger or smaller so anything that worked poorly before you shrank, could be worth trying again (and unfortunately the reverse is true--bras that used to be the best fit with your larger-boob proportions may not work anymore in any size).
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I wouldn't say red carpet is great. It's just the least horrible I've found so far. Take a dress or two, try it on at Nordstrom, then find it on eBay (or not) they'll probably have decos there for you to try to.
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I feel like my bras end up sitting too low a lot of the time, and I'm not really sure why. I hike 'em up, and then they settle back down. Is there a typical cause of that?