Bra fitting help » Too big? Keep or return?

• #1
• #2
• #3
• #4
• #5
• #6
• #7
• #8

Cleo » Neve Plunge T-shirt Bra (7196) » 28D 28:4

You must be logged in to leave suggestions

• New user?

  Get an account

• Have an account?

  Sign in

Suggestions (8)

• 3
  helpful

  Just wanted to say that if the marks from the wires are too low (not right in the fold even if you try to put it there) typically indicates that you need more immediate projection in the cups.

  Updated on May 12, 2015 Flag this

  
  

  add a comment

  Use @ to mention users, brands, models and more

  You need to sign in to comment

  
  
• 2
  helpful

  You're quite narrow and projected compared to most people in your size range, so a super shallow design like the Neve is just not going to work too well for you. Notice how the cups are almost as wide as they are deep... that's virtually flat! You need to look at less-shallow Cleos, I think. The Juna could possibly work but I suspect you'd need to go up to 28DD.

  Updated on May 12, 2015 Flag this

  
  

  • oh dear :( I was told in my last fit request (the Curvy Kate one, found here http://www.bratabase.com/troubleshoot/dlvgg/) that I needed to try the Neve out because I'm very shallow with tall roots... I'm completely new to this, so I really don't know either way. I'm so confused, eek :[

  • maybe a ewa michalak would work also? if you can afford it, theyre narrow and projected :) and they have pads for assymmetry which is pretty rad

  • 1

    I didn't see anyone there saying you were "very shallow" and if they did, methinks they were either high on bra fumes, or inexperienced with your size range. Compared to someone with a 32HH bust yes you have a shallow shape, but compared to most women in the 28D/DD range you are quite projected. It's all relative. Just because one bra cut into your tall roots, that does not define you as shallow :-)

  • 1

    I agree with wendybien. The marks from the cups sitting lower than they should is a sign that the cups are too shallow.

  • 1

    Also, "high on bra fumes" made me giggle.

  • It's a known side effect of spiraling bra addiction!

  • I guess I just understood that I was being told that my shape is shallow. I suppose I don't actually know what shallow means. Why is it relative to size? So does this mean a more accurate description of my shape would be projected with tall roots, rather than just shallow? Also, in trying to determine whether my roots are wide or narrow, I followed the guidelines of squishing my boob to the side to see where the tissue ends. I found a clear line, but how do I know if I'm relatively narrow or wide? The line is on the side of my ribs and not sitting on the front; however, it's much closer to the front of my chest than to my back.

  • Also, kythrie I would be willing to try EM if I knew that it would be worth the money to get a custom order that cannot be returned. I would rather buy one or two expensive bras that I know will fit well and last a long time than buying a bunch of okay-fitting, inexpensive ones to try. I just wish I knew I could depend on EM or even Well Fitting, which seems promising but doesn't offer many different shapes.

  • I feel you ^ My experience with ewa (i need to custom order to so i feel the pain.) is that theyre mostly narrow wires. High quality and very comfortable. (i grew out ofmine but i loved them. the assymmetry pads mean you can have one cupsize up or down and theyre still an okay fit which is good if you fluctuate.) and as you say not being able to return is such a pain cos if you custom order the wrong size then damn its like you just flushed cash away. Just i guess if you ever stumble across a sister size in ewa for sale on here just snag it and see how cups fit! then you can order one in the right back size.

    if you need some reviews to look at there are some blogs i'll post here. this lady reviews heaps of ewa michalak bras. I know shes obviously not in the same size range as you but I recommend looking at reviews before you buy (just for wire reference and cup shape ect)

    http://www.curvywordy.com/

    and this lady is very knowledgeable about all lingerie brands and shapes and has a wide following of different sized and shaped people and she's really lovely if you contact her

    http://fullerfigurefullerbust.com/

    freya also GENERALLY have narrow wires, but their back sizes are usually huge running in the 28 band. it sucks. :)
    

  • 1

    So in a nutshell, the higher up you go in cup size, the more likely it is that your boobs will be "projected" i.e. much deeper than they are wide or tall. And conversely the lower the cup size (E and under) the more likely it is that one's boobs will not project out very much from the body. But there are outliers. There are women on here who wear a 32FF-G and who have much wider, shallower boobs than about 95% of the other women who wear that size; and there are women like you who are 28D-DD and have much narrower and more projected boobs than the majority of women who wear their size. Nevertheless, when we say "28DD with average projection" that person's boobs still stick out a lot less than those of a person who is labeled "34F with average projection" if that makes any sense. So women who are a lot larger than you may look at you and mentally categorize your bust as shallow, because they don't realize that bra manufacturers have a different norm in mind for your size range and design accordingly.

    idk if that made any sense. I'm sleepy!

  • so i should be looking for something that has narrower wires and more projection, relative to my size range? how do i know whether my roots are narrow, wide, or average for my size? i originally thought i had wide roots for my size. is it possible to have wide roots and narrow boobs? is that just another way of saying wide roots with projected boobs?

    i've read that bras from Well Fitting have narrower wires than this bra, for example, but still not as narrow as EM bras. since WF makes 26-bands without having to do custom orders and has the 100-day return policy, i was thinking of trying one of those first. the only thing i'm worried about is the openness of the top of the cups, since they don't have many styles to choose from. has anyone tried WF?

  • You can have roots that are a lot wider than the rest of your boobs, this shape is commonly known as 'conical' even though that's kind of a misleading term because obviously you aren't ACTUALLY cone shaped lol. I tend to be this shape myself when I'm not nursing a baby.

    What made you think you had wide roots for your size exactly?

  • because i think i have breast tissue across the whole width of my chest, plus more on the sides of my chest, at the level of the horizontal roots. does that make sense?

  • 2

    OK, but if you have an exceedingly petite build (26" torso give or take a bit) that may explain why your boobs take up most of the width of your torso plus a bit on the side... it doesn't necessarily make them particularly wide. When we say "Person X has wide roots" it isn't an absolute statement, it means that person has wider roots than most folks in her size range, with that cup volume and breast volume.

    To clarify... So let's say that Susie and Katie both have roots that are roughly 6" wide. Susie is a 30E, so considering that most women in her size range have roots that are about 1" smaller, she can be said to have quite wide roots. But let's say that Katie (same exact root width) is a 36JJ. Most people in her range require cups 7-7.5" wide, so Katie actually has exceptionally narrow roots and the poor girl is likely consigned to a lifetime of Comexim (known for their narrow wires). And on the other hand if we imagine a third person, say a wearer of 34G, whose roots are also 6". she would be precisely average.

  add a comment

  Use @ to mention users, brands, models and more

  You need to sign in to comment

  
  
• 1
  helpful

  I personally think it looks too big honey. The straps look really far apart (which is USUALLY an indicator of cups too big. not always but usually)

  Updated on May 12, 2015 Flag this

  
  

  • 2

    I have the same frame (shoulder) width and Cleo straps are too far apart on me in any size. I don't think this is too big for her, it's just that the cups are too flat and shallow.

  add a comment

  Use @ to mention users, brands, models and more

  You need to sign in to comment

  
  
• 1
  helpful

  I have that problem with the Cleo Neve too, its a bit flattening isn't it? it just fits so close to the body. I love the Freya Moulded plunge for shaping, you could try that one..
  I would keep this bra if it looks good under clothes and is comfy

  Updated on May 19, 2015 Flag this

  
  

  add a comment

  Use @ to mention users, brands, models and more

  You need to sign in to comment

  
  
• 0
  helpful

  I think it looks ok in the cup. It looks like the right cup is curling outwards a bit (is that your smaller boob?) which is causing gaping. I had this same issue with this bra and address this problem here: http://www.bratabase.com/adventures/entry/3934/

  Updated on May 12, 2015 Flag this

  
  

  • yes, the right is my smaller one! I just read your blog post -- that's a really brilliant and easy solution :) I will definitely have to do that, if I end up keeping the bra.

  add a comment

  Use @ to mention users, brands, models and more

  You need to sign in to comment

  
  
• 0
  helpful

  If the strap separation of your bra is the only pressing issue, these might be of help to you: http://www1.bloomingdales.com/shop/product/fashion-forms-strap-solutions-bra-converters-set-of-3?ID=1153744&pla_country=US&cm_mmc=Google-PLA-ADC-_-GS-Intimates-_-Fashion%20Forms-_-765942194674USA&CAWELAID=120156070000440184&CAGPSPN=pla&catargetid=120156070000264342&cadevice=c

  They convert regular straps into racerback straps, making them closer together in the process.

  This bra definitely seems to be a better fit than the Cleo Maddie. Have you tried the Freya Deco in 28D? It has a looser band than the Cleo Neve but that can be fixed with a rixie clip.

  Updated on May 12, 2015 Flag this

  

  Saskia_C

  2062 reputation

  89 bras

  
  

  • Saskia_C have you tried the converters? I'm wondering whether they manipulate the shape of the cups in some way. It seems like they might squeeze the cups closer and make them more open in the center.

    I haven't tried Freya because I've heard that those bands are on the looser side, and a 28" in any brand is already often too big for me. I've looked into rixie clips, but I thought that they might also pull the cups too far onto my sides...which might just mean I need narrower cups in the first place.

  • stellarose I have 3 bras that have built in converters. I find that they do not manipulate the shape of the cups and are a great choice for people who have narrow shoulders.

  add a comment

  Use @ to mention users, brands, models and more

  You need to sign in to comment

  
  
• 0
  helpful

  "...high on bra fumes..."

  So THAT's what I've been suffering from! wendybien, you are hilarious!

  Err, sorry I don't have any helpful suggestions for your fit check, stellarose...[looks sheepish]

  Updated on May 15, 2015 Flag this

  
  

  add a comment

  Use @ to mention users, brands, models and more

  You need to sign in to comment

  
  
• 0
  helpful

  Thanks for the suggestions. I decided to return this bra and keep looking for a better fit: something with closer set straps and more immediate projection in the cups.

  Updated on May 29, 2015 Flag this

  
  

  add a comment

  Use @ to mention users, brands, models and more

  You need to sign in to comment