Bra fitting help » Side wires cut into me
Flirtelle » Hayley Plunge Bra (FL005101) » 40J 40:13
Issue resolved
Going to return it and look for brand and models with wider cups.
Original problem
The wires at the sides cut into my breasts where they begin under the arms. When I try pushing the cup wire back to include my whole breast, the band puckers and the wire won't stay put anyway.The cups at the top are a little loose so going up a cup size will make it too big. I already used a back extender because it was too tight. How do I get a comfortable fit without going too big in the cup? I just ordered a number of new bras to find one to fit, someone had said try plunge bras but they all have this same problem.
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I would try to find a cup that goes wider using this bratabase comparison tool, for bras in your size 40J
Although I noticed that Flirtelle is one of the brands that tends to have wider underwires already. Also, Elomi, and Goddess.
Updated on January 22, 2022 Flag this
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helpfulMe again, Just thought to link to another bra image in a similar cut CK Lifestyle Plunge in 40HH to show how that bra fits. It still has the same problem of wires digging into me at the side like this one though. https://www.bratabase.com/chest/dnlry/ I don't know if I have wide roots or if I have separate breasts but I seem to have broad roots.
Also, is it normal that these two new bras that are supposedly 40 inches around in the band both measured far less, when I measured them for this site - at between 31 and 34 inches?
I have an old non-wired 42H bra and the back always rides up. I have measured myself, re-measured myself and had help to measure me but the Bratabase tells me my latest measurements mean I should take a 40:11 or 42:11 but my 40H bras are too tight and not working so I am beginning to suspect the Curvy Kate and Flirtelle bras that I bought at Brastop before and these recent ones are all made too small, e.g. wrongly labelled around the back band and maybe even the cup.
To add to this mystery, I was on a diet most of last year and lost a few pounds when my 40H bras stop fitting comfortably! How does one gain in the chest when losing on the scale (admittedly not a lot)? At this point, I don't know what shape or type of bra I need or the size. Help!
Updated on January 21, 2022 Flag this
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helpfulOh boy. The classic 'cup too shallow where it counts' conundrum. I'd like to know why we are only ever allowed to have bras with a little room across the apex, Never anywhere lower for FOB fullness.
Have you tried the ABTF shape test of leaning forward to see where your breasts carry more fullness? It may be a close match in some ways, and happen to be a style that's totally off in a specific place causing the outer crushing.
I am a little envious you are within range of Elomi's Lydia which works well for petite/shorter root & lower immediate depth needs- however at your size would suggest determining the actual wire size need for your IMF, so you can troubleshoot whether a bra's fit issue will be the wire size, wire type, or cup depth needs not being met.
You have my total arnica-oil-addicted sympathies, it's not easy finding things that can work for this complication at the high and low end of sizing spectrum, and it's a lot of intense suffering trial and erroring these till we do find something close.Updated on January 22, 2022 Flag this
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Thanks for your suggestions and sympathy! I will look up Lydia.
I did go try the ABTF and am evenly balanced not FOB nor FOT, according to that little test. However I have outer spread. which explains why so often bras accentuate East West and I don't seem to have cleavage despite being quite projected. (When I was younger and smaller chested, I would have said then my chest may have looked a little shallow, but now there's too much projected flesh to be considered shallow.) Do I have short roots? I am not clear on that. I sure do have depth.
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Just thought to add that I'm 5'4" so a common problem is also that wings are too high and wires poke me under my arms AND gores that are too long dig into me.
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We've a specific fit issue that presents similarly on both of us- the painful outer overflow and never enough cup depth on outer side- I know for myself this is caused by patterns with very flattening angles that presume my breast only begins at the front-facing part of torso (both side of lower cup are about the same width, not the outer one being wider), and that any depth should also become narrower right away as the cup rises to apex (causes cups which make a mostly cone-shape). It does neither of what the cup pattern predicts and disaster follows.
Perhaps you cannot get enough overall fullness and the cups are pushing more of your central depth backward toward where your roots begin, shoving the root tissue up and out, then get the same stabby effect? I guess that designers love to do this wrongfully assuming that the breast fullness would go directly up and make some cute cleavage, but we all get the armpit crease and gore stabs instead.I can say for certainty that removing the bra, then rotating the cup around breast with one hand, using the other to hold up and support at strap, sometimes helps to show whether darting the gore and altering strap placement may help (mind I've got huge alien 7"+ long hands that can hold upside down dinnerplates, this may be more of a task for normal humans).
I think the most similar bra in my reviews to your Hayley was the Wolf & Whistle Arianna which came close, but ultimately was only wide enough at the wire while being too shallow everywhere except the apex (pointy, and yes, east-west shape. am round and very forward-facing). I'd have to size up,& just like with Hayley it would only resolve the wire size while still facing serious lack of shape match where it's needed. I'm going to compare this style you've shared to the CK Romance that has a better upper build for your needs, and might have enough depth but likely at cost of a shorter wire width.
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Thank you for that link - I never found that before!