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Envy Balconnet Bra (7285)

Since AW2013 - Non-padded balconette bra with side panel and stretch lace in the upper part of the cup. More...

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28				28F 28:7 19 bras	28FF 28:8 18 bras	28G 28:9 19 bras	28GG 28:10 7 bras	28H 28:11 3 bras	28HH 28:12 6 bras	28J 28:13 2 bras
30	30D 30:4 16 bras	30DD 30:5 19 bras	30E 30:6 34 bras	30F 30:7 39 bras	30FF 30:8 44 bras	30G 30:9 28 bras	30GG 30:10 42 bras	30H 30:11 18 bras	30HH 30:12 14 bras	30J 30:13 11 bras	30JJ 30:14 5 bras	30K 30:15 6 bras
32	32D 32:4 12 bras	32DD 32:5 20 bras	32E 32:6 33 bras	32F 32:7 47 bras	32FF 32:8 37 bras	32G 32:9 29 bras	32GG 32:10 45 bras	32H 32:11 28 bras	32HH 32:12 22 bras	32J 32:13 14 bras	32JJ 32:14 6 bras	32K 32:15 9 bras
34	34D 34:4 4 bras	34DD 34:5 4 bras	34E 34:6 22 bras	34F 34:7 14 bras	34FF 34:8 24 bras	34G 34:9 29 bras	34GG 34:10 37 bras	34H 34:11 25 bras	34HH 34:12 19 bras	34J 34:13 12 bras	34JJ 34:14 6 bras	34K 34:15 9 bras
36	36D 36:4 1 bra	36DD 36:5 7 bras	36E 36:6 8 bras	36F 36:7 21 bras	36FF 36:8 7 bras	36G 36:9 18 bras	36GG 36:10 22 bras	36H 36:11 11 bras	36HH 36:12 16 bras	36J 36:13 13 bras	36JJ 36:14 6 bras	36K 36:15 7 bras
38	38D 38:4 0 bras	38DD 38:5 4 bras	38E 38:6 5 bras	38F 38:7 6 bras	38FF 38:8 8 bras	38G 38:9 7 bras	38GG 38:10 14 bras	38H 38:11 13 bras	38HH 38:12 9 bras	38J 38:13 5 bras	38JJ 38:14 3 bras	38K 38:15 3 bras
40	40D 40:4 0 bras	40DD 40:5 0 bras	40E 40:6 0 bras	40F 40:7 0 bras	40FF 40:8 0 bras	40G 40:9 1 bra	40GG 40:10 3 bras	40H 40:11 2 bras	40HH 40:12 1 bra	40J 40:13 2 bras	40JJ 40:14 2 bras	40K 40:15 1 bra

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30FF

Fits

Oddly, the gore doesn't bother me as much with a smaller band (I tried 32F last week), I mean, I can feel it's there, but I think I could wear this bra all day.

The cups seems bigger than 32F, but they should be the same size - maybe they just appear bigger with the smaller band.

Now that I have 30FF, I would like to try 30G, but I didn't order that size, haha.

Cups seem good, I'm not "quad-boobing," but I wish I could compare to a 30G.

30 seems like the correct band size for me in the Panache Envy series, firm but I can still breathe.

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32F

Didn't fit

My shape: FOB, projected, short roots, center full.

I believe the gore is too tall for me (not sure if I like those tall gores, or if they work for me - I'm used to wearing V.S. bras that are quite low gore) as it seems like it's pressing on my sternum after just a short time. I think the cups fit perfectly, even though the ABTF calculator put me at 30F today, this is technically one cup larger/one band bigger. Anyhoo, I ordered this bra from Amazon so she's going back! Was awesome to try this bra on though. The cups are like a perfect match for ... my breasts, I mean, the cups fit so well.

This is the first time I remember in my entire life putting on a bra and then smiling : ) The cups fit that well.

Before I was stuffing myself into 32DD/34DD V.S. bras - these new size attempts are much better! Although I honestly am surprised that the 32 band didn't fit me, it feels good, but it's too loose already. The other two bras I currently own in my "new sizing," are both too tight in the band. (Or are they too small in the cups?) They're both longlines, so they're difficult to do the "upside down and backward" thing with the band. But they both don't work for different reasons than that (cup shape). I need a more narrow and projected shape: was told by a bra-fitting lady from SFYS (I don't live Toronto, and I've never used their store, but I was emailing them about a bra...) that the Panache Envy is most similar to Ewa Michalak BM style? Sooo, yeah...kind of in between the 30 and 32 band r.n.

I'm going to return this, but I still have 4 more bras coming in the mail from Amazon, lol. Trying to figure out my true size - in this model it looks like it would be 30FF, which is supposed to arrive on Friday, so we shall see : ) Also, I'm going to compare to Panache Jasmine. This was a great experience trying on this bra for my Bra Odyssey quest, a near success!!

Also, you can tell that this bra is totally "nude" on me. When I was looking at the thumbnail pictures on my phone, it looked like I was naked.
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Nude colorway

Updated on Mar 17, 2021 Flag this
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  I’m going to echo bubblegums feedback in that panache gores kill me! Seriously, I find them particularly high and firm and cannot deal with them at all. I’m also centre full and I bet that is why you’re having the same issue. Good luck with your next bra!
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  Aww, thanks margesimpson ! I appreciate it...have only discovered my actual bra size abt a month ago. I've recently had a very *modest* weight loss (like about 8 pds since Dec) and so I was googling online calculators to try to figure out my dress size and then bra size. Well, wouldn't you know it, I came across the "A Bra That Fits" online calculator (I remember I was using another calculator, I believe it was this one https://www.omnicalculator.com/everyday-life/bra-size which uses the outdated +4 method, and I said to myself "that's not right!" so I kept searching).
  
  Anyway, I ordered a couple of bras, and then after just a few weeks, I kind of start to feel burned-out looking for my ABTF, LOL. But then I started to have patience and I started to feel better about it. This is a wonderful resource, as well as the ABTF community of Reddit and there's one on FB group. I also like @theirishbralady on Instagram, she kind of just goes over the facts. It's so life-changing, right?
  
  Anyway, well, I feel so much better that I'm not stuffing myself into the wrong sizes anymore; they were totally not flattering either! : )
  
  I'm excited to try Comexims, but I actually ordered them last week from Breakout Bras. I can track the package from the US, but not here in Canada, so I will only get a few notifications, not tracking like Canada Post, I believe. Breakout Bras gave me a 20% off coupon when I started to put bras in my online shopping cart, then just left them overnight; they try to tempt you. But then I had to order 3 bras to get the Free Shipping. So, yeah, we'll see how that goes! : ) Take care!
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  Oh that’s exciting! I hope the comexim bras work out for you. The sizing is tricky but I think it’s totally worth it to figure it out. They are light as air! Ps I totally got exhausted from trying to find abtf too. I took a break from it and when I got back to it felt much better.
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  Yeah panache wires and gores are brutal on me too, so I totally sympathize with you. You could try a Panache Ava/Ana plunge which is lower than the balconette but, I personally felt like it was still digging in my sternum (though it was also too small in 30F). The EM BM is a lower gore and narrower all over. I think you’re going to like them much more.
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28G

Used to fit

This would have been perfect for me if the wires were less wide.

Chai colorway

Updated on Feb 01, 2021 Flag this
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- I had this bra in 28G too, would've been a perfect fit if the wires weren't 6 freaking inches wide! Lol.
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38GG

Didn't fit

This bra is probably the best fitting of the ones I have tried. But, it is still very problematic for me. I have a short root. The gore length is basically the length of my breast root. The band is too tight and causes the underwire to spread and dig in to my ribs. I sound like a broken record. I have wrinkling in the sides and top. The underwire also digs under my armpit. It's a really nice nude. Side support isn't what I prefer, it definitely goes out to the side. When I first tried it, I thought it gave me a pointy odd look, but trying it again today it does more look rounded, but I still think I need more bottom projection. I think if you have short roots, this might not be for you.

Updated on Jan 02, 2021 Flag this
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40JJ

Didn't fit

The top of the cup is way too loose, wrinkling. Less wrinkling than the Panache Jasmine Balconet 40JJ, which I ordered at the same time, but still too much.

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Updated on Oct 24, 2020 Flag this
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30G

Didn't fit

Cups and gore were both slightly too wide for me and there's not enough projection. Otherwise, this is an excellent bra. Very comfortable, and looks very pretty.

Powder Blue colorway

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30J

Didn't fit

This is the bra size in this style that bratabase said would be likely to fit based on my measurements. Ordered during quarantine while I couldn't be fit in person locally, and I saw this colour was only available in the size recommended. It seemed like kismet! I was shocked to be a J cup, and it turns out, I'm not one. The dark green is a really nice colour, but this bra is not a great fit. Surprisingly, it's actually wearable without alterations and even somewhat supports me. The wires come way too far under my arm, well past my breast tissue though, and are also about ... 3/4 inch below where they should sit under my breasts. This is okay in comfort for some hours, but if sitting a fair bit, the underwire being so low on my ribs becomes very uncomfortable. The band is ultratight; I wore it this way for the photos only, and otherwise use an extender. You can also see in the overhead shot that a sort of strange shape occurs at toward the side of my breast. It's not terribly noticeable when I'm dressed, but it's definitely not idea. I think I may be able to alter this bra to fit nicely, but it will be a lot of work and I'm not sure it's really worth the time to do it.

Having tried this bra on in store a couple of days ago, the 32 band is the right fit for me, and while an H cup is very comfy and would be lovely for hanging around the house in, the 32GG is the best fit overall with the wires sitting where they should. I plan to buy this bra in other colours in the correct size because I do really like it. The matching panty has a really nice back detail (the front is "meh" to me, but the lace bum is worth it).
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Forest colorway

Updated on Aug 16, 2020 Flag this
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Wearable

Comfort
Meh

Bra appearance
Okay

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30H

Fits

I was so excited to get this bra in the mail today, as I already have an Envy and wanted to add another to my collection. The Envy is a great bra for me! I'm extremely full on top, and the Envy's stretch lace does an excellent job of keeping all of my tissue in the cups. However, there is space at the bottom of the cups, but with my extremely FOT shape and high roots, I've never had a bra where this hasn't happened to me. It isn't uncomfortable. The wires on the Envy are also too wide for my narrow-root breasts, but that's to be expected ... with UK bras. This also isn't uncomfortable.

I also love the high gore the Envy has. I have very soft breast tissue, so it tends to spill towards the center with bras with lower gores. Not a problem with the Envy! I can imagine that if your breasts were closer together than mine, though, this might be uncomfortable.

My one gripe with this bra, I would say, is the lacy material along the bottom of the cups, past the wires (which you can't even see on me because it rolls up under my rib fat, lol). I have very prominent rib fat, and so, this lace material rolls up on me, which is uncomfortable and kind of itchy. I like to wear liners under the wires of my bras, though, partially for issues like this.

The Envy gives a nice, round shape which I enjoy.

The Envy also runs true to size--I typically wear a 30H, and I wear a 30H with the Envy.

I would definitely recommend the Envy to people with similar breasts to mine! It's so, so comfortable, and it's one of my go-to bras on days where I have to be out for a long period of time.
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Sienna colorway

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  Based on the pics looks like you might need 30HH - have you tried it at all?
- From the pictures, it looks like you could use more projection at the wire. With that structural issue, the wire is sitting below your IMF. I know that when my wire is sitting lower than it ought I have pain with a bra. When I have the combination of wide cups, bras are especially uncomfortable. With a shorter torso myself, I find that when I place the bra in the right spot on my ribcage it has a more lifting appearance. I am thinking that this bra is a mismatch for your shape. I am sure that others could recommend brands and cuts that would give you more projection and narrower cups in your size for a better, less uncomfortable fit.
- Pretty color! I do see a bit of quadding at the top, but I have no experiend with FOT so not sure if that's part of it. If you're at all like me, one size will be slightly too small and the next slightly too big! I'd be worried about the side of the cups on the underarms a size up being too tall and annoying. If it sits in your IMF even with the empty space and feels good, sometimes there's just a 'close enough' point lol. I bet it looks great under clothes!
- confused Thank you! The pictures are a bit misleading (as is my very soft breast tissue, lol). It doesn't quad in real life, or at least it doesn't when I'm not specifically straining my arms back like in the pictures. It definitely is a 'close enough' point. I do have some Polish bras that fit better, but even they have some of the 'empty space at the bottom' problem that my breasts just...do within bras. It does look great under clothes and most importantly is comfortable!
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36J

Fits

Envy was the very first bra I purchased since finding my true size. It was also the first I returned - the next day after I discovered that when I got it to sit in my IMF, it poked my armpits like a son-of-a-gun. That first one was a 36HH, and I think now the cups were slightly small, as I have pictures of the gore not quite tacking. I think that made the wires pull too hard against my ribs, because it would start to dig after a bit, something I have since noticed Panaches doing when the band is too tight. In fact I later tried ... Envy again in 34JJ to try to alleviate the problem, but although the cups fit better, I still got some digging in.

But I love the design and color of the Envy, so I tried one more time with this one. It seems to fit fine (with the exception of the too-long wires that are frequently threatening my armpits that all Panaches have in common), but I am probably returning it anyway. I don't know, maybe not - I took it out of the bag for one last trial. But it isn't quite projected enough and the shape it gives is so very similar to the Elomi Morgan, which is so very much more comfortable, that it seems like I should just get another Morgan.

The 36J (and the 34JJ) gives a more elongated shape; the 36HH gave kind of a flattened shape. Something right in the middle would be ideal.
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Sky colorway

Updated on Jun 27, 2019 Flag this
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Okay

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30G

Didn't fit

This is my daily driver now. It's not perfect, still a little loose on the bottom and sides, but it's comfy and supportive.

nude colorway

Updated on Feb 26, 2019 Flag this
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