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Official websiteIt has just a little too much apex projection for me which gives a slight pointy look. Surprisingly the wires feel wider what my other panache bras though so that’s a win, and the cup’s height isn’t too bad, but it tends to gap a bit on top sometimes from being too roomy at the apex. It also has good immediate projection.
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Loxus oh yeah. Wires digging into breast tissue on the sides is definitely something I have been dealing with in my bra journey. It’s one of my main struggles if the main one. I have been experiencing it with most bras, panache and other brands, but surprisingly envy is one of the few that actually seem to be wide enough (especially surprising since it’s panache). It’s not uncomfortable to wear and when I take it off the marks are just slightly out of my roots
I’ve tried this bra on in probably half a dozen sizes and colours over the years. The last time I tried it, it was a 28G which was too tight of a band for me. I initially pulled a 32E in a purple shade and tried it and, as I expected, it was a little bit loose in the band and didn’t offer the proper band/wire tension. So I was brought this one.
Nude is not really my colour but I can do some. This is one of the shades I seem to be ok with. It’s not anything really amazing or special. I definitely preferred the purple. ...
The fit was comparable with the Jasmine of the same size I tried just before this. But this was more visibly shallow at the wire. It’s possible that it would be better if I had a 30FF, but I had already been there trying things in for quite some time, and since it is a taller gore like Jasmine, plus the firmer wires, I opted to skip trying a larger size.
The stretchy upper lace is nice and I love the houndstooth print, but ultimately, it’s not quite the right one for me.
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To start: my breasts are pendulous, soft tissue, short but wide roots, a splayed but somewhat close together, with a downward facing apex.
I'm not entirely used to wearing a 36 band (formerly a 42), but I was shocked by how comfortable it is! The material is stretchy without misshaping, and the wires have good flex without being deformed by the stretch. They snap back nicely. The internal seams are nice and smooth and after about 10 mins I'm not even aware that I'm wearing a seamed bra. (I'm only aware at all because I'm really conscious of seams.) It's not 100% as smooth as a moulded cup looks ... through a shirt, but as long as the shirt isn't very thin or clingy, it should go pretty well. The stretchy lace at the top of the cup forgives all manner of sins, and since I'm fairly even (as far as I know), it's great.
One thing I love especially is that the lace is not scratchy at all, and the bow between the cups is sewn on in the right place that it never pokes at you. The lace edge at the bottom of the gore and along part of the bottom of the cups is soft too!
To top it all off, when I showed my fiancé he was... Um, impressed? It's a very sexy bra, while being comfortable, and with out me hanging out all over. I was so afraid to make the jump to properly sized bras because I had the idea that "big" bras were all ugly cone-boob monstrosities.
Panache really got it right with the Panache Envy Balconnet Bra (7285) .
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My husband really liked my Envy, in black! Unfortunately the wires push down on me and end up very painful after about 6 hours. I hope this keeps working well for you!
dbmamaz I hope so too! I wore it for couple hours yesterday, and it was still great, but time will tell. Especially if/when things migrate.
I think the Envy is a really comfortable bra. Also - it really holds up after a lot of wears. Mine that I have had for about 6 months still looks brand new.
I've owned this bra for a while and I'm refining my review!
This is the prettiest bra I've owned in a long time (which might be more a comment on me) but my husband LOVES the look of the black lace. And of course, that makes me feel pretty!
This bra gives a lovely round shape and I feel very lifted and supported. The stretch lace means that my bigger side isnt quadding and my smaller side isnt gapping, which is hard to find - I have a very big size difference.
However, it is really too shallow for me at the bottom. I need more immediate projection than this bra has. The result is that the bra is pushed down lower on my ribcage, causing the wires to really hurt me. I keep bending the wires, and each time I wear it I seem to be able to tolerate it a little longer. So I might not want to wear this to work, but its fine for shorter outings.
Black colorway
Updated on Oct 24, 2014 Flag this
Thanks - i swear i got that top at walmart ages ago? Idk, maybe it was kohls. But I kept the bra - its getting more comfortable each time I wear it - i dont put on my real bras often, tho - i really dont leave the house much, and there's no way I'm strapping hardware on my chest to sit around and play world of warcraft and cook dinner and homeschool the kid
If it feels like strapping hardware onto your chest, then I don't blame you for not wearing your real bras often. I'm glad you kept this bra, though. Feeling pretty because someone special to you LOVES the look on you, is priceless.
--Kristine
The other day when I was wearing my floris, I made my husband feel under the wire - he was surprised how hard and thick it is. To support a j cup up high on a 32 ribcage takes some serious force. and i've always been pretty sensitive. Its better now - in high school I couldnt stand a bra with a seam over the nipple. It was too irritating. But that doesnt bother me any more
but in high school I couldnt find any 32s, so I wore 34s which were not so tight.
Yea, that floris looks like a pretty serious bit of engineering. I think very few guys understand how much mass and force are involved, and the consequent materials requirements. And then to make it attractive at the same time!
I am by no means petite, but I couldn't imagine what it would be like if I were a 40J.
--Kristine
So, 6 months later here, I can wear this bra a full day? Once I finally bought 2 new floris, NOW this baby breaks in? LOL Idk, maybe its because it fits different when I'm on my cycle? I seem to have random good/bad days for some bras.
but I'm glad I kept it, and I COULD imagine buying it in beige some day if I really need a beige bra
I was so excited to try the Envy because it is based off of my beloved Jasmine. I got the nude color. Unfortunately there is a couple of little differences that make it a deal breaker. The center gore is a little wider than on the Jasmine, spreading out my boobs more. The side support panels are also little wider than on the Jasmine. These two elements together make my breasts look wider from the front and the bra digs into my armpits a little bit. As drownedsalad mentioned on the comments on this post, http://www.bratabase.com/profile/6uk/adventures/2597/ I think this is based more on ... the Emily frame with the Jasmine stretched lace on top. The center gore is identical to that of Emily (I've never tried the Emily, observation based off pictures). Also the gore feels slightly lower on the Envy and the cups angle down more as opposed to Jasmines which are more straight across. It also gives a lovely round shape. The sizing is consistent with Jasmine. I also wear a 34H in Jasmine. It's a lovely bra but if you are looking for an exact replica of Jasmine this ain't it. Sadly I had to send this one back.
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Updated on Oct 18, 2013 Flag this
do you think this bra works on shallow breast?
I'm not sure about shallow, it's been awhile since I tried this bra. I think it would definitely work for a wider frame. The stretch lace probably makes it compatible with many shapes. You can most likely size down if the cups are too big without fear of quadding.
Holy Wide Wires!
Comparing to my Ewa Michalak BM Chilli https://www.bratabase.com/bra/dngbo/, which should only be one cup smaller (30G in Panache vs 32F in Ewa) as the Chilli bra is a band size up...the underwire on the Panache is 1.8 inches longer, whoa!
I'm attaching pictures where you can see: there is space in between where my breast root ends, and where the wire continues past my breast root on the side. Well past where my breast root ends, lol. there's also a little space underneath my breast - more so than with the Ewas - I'm guessing this is because of the shape of the ... wires. I know the underwires can be bent slightly at the bottom, to ensure a better fit since in the mailing of the bra, it was probably smooshed flat. But I didn't bother b/c the wires on the side are SO WIDE, I'm going to send it back anyways.
Maybe the Envy is more the "average root" person and my roots are quite narrow.
The cups are comfy though, +1 for the Envy.
The band - yea!!! Finally a band that fits good (I have been wearing 32's mostly, and I now realize - I am just not a 32. With a 29" measurement, I have to at least wear a 30 band.
I'm not sure that the fabric is a little stiffer b/c of the dark dye (this one is navy) compared to the Nude envy I tried on in size 30FF, but it stretches TTS. The design is quite flattering, and the stretch lace helps with breast asymmetry (yea!).
Overall, a solid bra, it looks good. However, the wires were just too wide. I ordered this to determine if I am a 30G (I seem to be in between 30FF and 30G r.n.).
Ewa Michalak might be the brand for me. Her bras are $70 min. Not complaining about the price b/c they are quality, it's just that I usually have to order them from Europe to have a decent price, not in Canada.
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BraOdyssey too funny I literally just bought a bra from belle lingerie. I need to slow down the bra shopping lol
LOL, I’m in the gotta -slow - down- the - bra- buying boat too, and yes, despite this, I am still obsessively checking EBay for bras. Aaaack!
I also check Comexim.pl, and Ewa-Michalak.pl for sales, lol. Can't forget the Polish brands!
dagmarwulfe , but it is a little addicting to check Ebay, lol. You'll never know what you'll find! And once it's gone, it's gone.
BraOdyssey , so true! I think that’s part of the appeal for sure.
Best for vertically even shapes
pros: comfortable
good side support
average to goot projection, some average immidiate projection
high quality material and nice design
unflexible wires which I prefer, feels more supportive,
besides on the sides, the wire sits in my imf
gore lies flat and isnt uncomfortable (if you are narrow set, it wont work for you)
fully adjustable straps !!!
cons: wires are too wide for me
had some gaping at the top, can improve it by turning it into a racerback
gore was borderline too wide (my boobs were separated more than 'natural'
gives a pointy shape (depending on your preference, this could be a pro)
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This is one of my favorites. I wish it was just a bit more projected at the base of the bra, but it's one of my best fitting bras. The wire is quite firm which did take some getting used to.
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I'm bummed, this one is a big nope for me. I really liked the way this bra looked in pictures, and I've seen it recommended for a bunch of different shapes, so I took a chance. But it doesn't fit well, look good, or feel good.
The bra seems well-made, but the material is rough and scratchy. It felt very uncomfortable against my skin, both in the cups and the band. Fit wise, I was optimistic at first, since it looked okay from the front. The gore tacked, and the support seemed fine - but on closer inspection (especially after I took the pics), ... it doesn't fit at all. The wires are almost the right shape, but the gore digs into my sternum a bit. The cups are smooth on the top edge, at least on my larger side, and actually look nice - but... major wrinkles on the sides, I don't fill the bottom of the cup, and the wires don't stay put when I raise my arms. The rounded shape I get from it is nice. Going down a cup size and choosing a color that doesn't match my skin would probably be an improvement, but based on the feel of the material I'm not going to bother. It seems like a shape mismatch.
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Updated on Sep 28, 2020 Flag this
Beautiful bra in peacock blue, this is my first experience with Size 28G and OH MY GOD my boobs actually feel supported, I can't fit two fists in the band and the weight of my boobs dosen't seem to be all in the straps. However, the gore is too wide and I think the wires are too.
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Updated on Sep 24, 2020 Flag this
I have been eyeing this bra. I don't think it will work for me. I got the Jasmine in today and that really didn't work. I know I'm FoT but have soft tissue and somehow these bras make everything sink downwards lol The wires were pretty wide on the Jasmine as well.
I actually got it from someone who should've been wearing a 30-32 band. So that's why the wires were SUPER wide
marilynne Oh I see! It's difficult to find the 'perfect' bra. I mean nothing in life is perfect but you know what I mean? I do like my Cleo Marcie though. It's super nice!
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In the picture with your arm raised I feel like the wire is so clearly poking into your breast tissue. Are you in any pain, I’ve got goosebumps just looking at the pinching. I think you definitely need wider wires and panache is probably not going to be your brand. I’d try Freya and natori next. Let me know your thoughts