First off the envy gives me a very round shape perhaps the roundest one with a non-padded. This isn't a good bra for you if want a more pointy or torpedo look. The fabric itself it stretchy at top only, the bottom cup is normal. Not itchy or tight. The cup perfectly molds to my bottom breasts but there is a bit of loose fabric at the top and near the top of the gore. The edge of the bra is loose. The cup fits without being too tight or loose. If you prefer a firmer fit in the cup, this bra doesn't provide ...an extra firm cup. The two things that somewhat didn't work for me, its more of a natural fit versus an uplift. Its does lift but not as much as some Panaches or Cleos. Also the support is OK, the cups are stretchy so there is some bounce, you're not jiggling all over the place but there is a little bit of a bounce. The band is also tight and has little stretch, 3 hooks. When I'm bloated or have a gained a pound or 2 the extender needs to come out. There is little give but it is supportive. The problems were minimal compared to the shape I got with this bra. I'm even shaped, wide root, round and my regular size worked. Read more 127 more words
Unfortunately… this bra is not supportive enough for me. The band seems loose. Can put it on the middle hooks straight out of the package. Had to tighten the straps all the way and it still wasn't enough. Cups do not feel supportive. I know this is based off the Andorra, which ended up not working for me. I was told this was an improved version. Seems about the same to me. It was so unsupportive that I felt embarrassed wearing ut. Alone. In my own home. Maybe I'm spoiled by jasmine? The bra is gorgeous and I would love to keep it but I need something better. :/ I have extra space where the strap meets the cup. A lot of it.
I bought the 32J Panache Andorra Full Cup (5675) in Spice to enter its measurements into Bratabase. I'll be returning it to Nordstrom Rack if no one responds to my listing. As cranky as I get looking for bras in the 30F range for myself, I can only imagine the volcanic frustration of someone in this size range.
This color is rich and complex. It changes a lot depending on what time of day you're viewing it.
This is a good every day bra but doesn't dramatically lift or support. Gives a natural, pointed look. It actually makes my boobs looker smaller under clothing. The top has little stretch, although it seems to be more for FOT ladies. So if you have a firm tissue and are very FOT it may cut into the top and create quad-boob. It's comfortable, band is a tight fit but does stretch. It separated me little too much and think it's why U looked smaller? My top complaint about the Emily, it has a lot of excess cloth/lace at the bottom around the front of the bra, the back ...of the band is normal with no extra cloth/lace. So much extra cloth/ lace, that when I wear it, the stiff lace rolls under the edges and can meet the wire. It makes it somewhat uncomfortable and pushes the wire away a bit. The first time I wore it, constantly was having to unroll the excess cloth at the bottom so the wire would stay in place. This is the only bra that I have where the cloth rolls under the band. Its comfortable but honestly not good enough to repurchase. Also had some wrinkling on the sides, near the top of the wing, the wrinkles disappeared after the straps were tightened. This is a good comfortable bra to wear around the house but isn't a bra if you want extra lift, support or a round shape. Read more 140 more words
I ordered this bra because the measurements were supposedly more like a 36GG. I'd say they're more of a 36H. due to the cup depth. This bra suffers greatly from the cradle triangle effect, where the cups are wider than the band. This leads to wires very far back. The top of the cup can stretch to almost 10" despite the wires being 8" wide unstretched.
The wires are firm though, so despite quadboobing the center gore tacks very nicely. This is especially important because I have no space between my boobs, and yet this bra manages to separate anyway, and I don't get pain from it. Because of that I'm calling the quality "excellent" because too many bras suffer from wires that are too flimsy to hold any weight.
I usually suffer from being poked under the armpit because of my short torso, but these wires didn't seem to be a problem.
Also, without a bra I have low nipples, but this seemed to bring them right up and gave plenty of lift.
I ordered this bra because I wanted a soft cup bra to wear in the evenings after work and sometimes on the weekends (a lounge bra, if you will.) I read reviews that it is best to size up in the cup with this bra, but unfortunately, this was not an option for me since it is not available above a J cup. I decided I wanted to try it anyway.
The band is quite stretchy and I'm finding I need a 30 band instead of a 32 band more times than not, but at least this one has 6 rows of hooks. Maybe this will ...allow me to get a decent amount of wear out of it even though I'm already wearing it on the 3rd or 4th row. The straps aren't as wide as I'd like, but they're not horribly uncomfortable. Wider straps would bring the comfort level up a notch, though.
The so-called "cups" aren't as deep as I feel they should be (they are more wide than deep), so the center gore does not lie flat, and probably wouldn't even in a better size. However, I had realistic expectations concerning this type of bra and was already prepared for this. I had quite a bit of quad boob after I swooped and scooped, but honestly, I'll probably wear this one without being concerned about swooping and scooping (since there are no wires, everything will just settle back to where it came from anyway.) If I don't do that, it actually fits fine in the cups.
Good news is concerning the shape and comfort. It is quite comfortable and actually does offer a fairly decent amount of support (much better than the cheap sports bras I had been wearing after work.) The shape is pretty good, too. Even though my boobs are touching, it doesn't look like I have uni-boob -- I actually still have 2 boobs, even under a shirt. The profile is a slightly uplifted, rounded shape that wouldn't make me self-conscious if I went out in public, even. It is MUCH better than the shape I got from the Freya Kelly that I tried a few months ago (droopy and pointy.)
I think it's very pretty with the white lace over the pink, although my fiance commented on how it looked like a bra from the 50's to him. I wasn't sure if that was a negative comment or not (men, geez.) I like it, and that's all that matters really.
So, all in all, it's a success. I REALLY wish it came in a 30JJ or 30K, but I'll make due with this one for now. I will eventually order the black one as well so I have more options. Read more 361 more words
After taking out the wires of Andorra 36J I can wholeheartedly recommend that as a softcup.
I've considered Sophie as well but now I know I don't need it :)
Oh and I also must say I adore the top you're wearing on the picture. It's really fresh in color. Couldn't stop looking at it cause it made me happy XD
Aw, thanks! It's just an Old Navy t-shirt, but I love it.
A lovely, well finished bra. The cup is 4 parts with stretch lace across the top. The band feels quite firm (which I like). The straps are padded, partially adjustable, and fairly wide. I mistakenly ordered a size 2-3 cups too big for me, so the wires were an inch too wide and poked high into my armpit. The cherry red was bright and vibrant. Overall very nice.
I previously reviewed this bra in plum/silver ( 32J - Panache » Clara Full Cup Bra (7255) ). It's comfortable and this colorway is even prettier than than the plum/silver one.
12/2018 Received this recently from another member. It technically fits, I guess, but it's a mis-match for my shape with those wide wires and not quite enough immediate projection. Also, it's the sternum-stabbiest bra I've ever had but that's partially due to the round boobs contained in more conical cups. It looks pretty good and the stretch lace at the top would make it useful for a variety of less-round boobs.
This bra is just kind of a temporary compromise for me, it's getting pretty clear that I will probably have to customize a bra from a company with the most narrow possible wires, like @EwaMichalak or @Comexim, for a overall perfect fit. However, that takes time and I needed something to wear right now. The wires on the panache @Andorra are definitely too wide and too tall for my short torso and small ribcage. I have zero sideboob, so most bra manufacturers are not catering to my body type.
The main annoyance I have with Andorra is that the fabric near the base of ...the straps in front comes up too high and chafes near my armpits. This is painful after a full day of wearing, so I prefer not to wear this bra more than 3-4 hours. Unfortunately, I didn't notice this issue until I had worn it awhile, and not when I was trying on. The actual wires and wing height are not jabbing at anything on the side. I have at least a good inch or two of empty space at the sides where the wires curve way too far on my sides. The very tall gore wire height is mostly okay as long as I'm standing and walking - but does start jabbing and chafing at the top if I'm bent over or sitting a lot. I definitely do not need this height of wire, since I have narrow roots, and shorter wires would be more comfortable.
On the plus side, the straps don't fall off my shoulders, although more inset straps might be preferable. The cup design is great for my shape, covers everything well and looks good under clothing, perky and uplifted. Nothing is being flattened down at all. Since there is almost a 3 cup difference between my two breasts, one cup is a little empty but acceptable, didn't need alterations. This kind of stretch lace cup is definitely the most flattering and best type of bra for me, I've been preferring this type for several years now. It's the only kind that's giving me the very high amount of depth I need for my very projected breasts. The fabric is a little rougher than I would like, but not as scratchy as I've ever tried. The lace is a little softer than on the Panache Envy. This is a very nice bra, it's just not sized right for my petite body. It might work better on someone tall with my bra size. Read more 330 more words
What to say about this bra.... Well it's a love hate relation, the fit is very good. But it is so itchy, hard to keep on all day. I want the same in a nice and soft fabric.
I own this bra in a 30 band.....I can do up the 30 band, although it is a little too tight, hence I ordered the 32 band. This one only stretches to 30, this is several inches smaller than my underbust, and I could not do it up to try it properly. I suspect the cup was be too big at the top, based on other bras, but I can't say for sure.
Sadly I was unable to properly try this bra as the stretched band only measures about 31 inches, so unsurprisingly I couldn't even get the band to meet, let alone do up. However, the design is pretty, although the fabric has a 'rougher' feel than I expected it would.
This! I just got a 32JJ in the same colorway, and I cant put it on without an extender, despite not having had that problem w my other 2 32JJ jasmines!
I have the Panache Clara in 32HH and can do it up comfortably (it's only had a few wears) but think the cup is too small, so I ordered it in this size in the same colour, and I can barely do it up. It was hard to do a full assessment on it for this reason, but I think it still might not have enough immediate projection for me, and clearly either this one is slightly faulty, or I need to go up a band size.
This is in a bright pink color . I love the color . Very comfortable bra but does stab me in the underarm and sternum . underwires down under my ribs but that is how my body is shaped it happens to many of my bras as my imf is only an inch or so above my last rib . It's annoying but not a deal breaker . I do fall out out of the top leading to major quading on my larger side if I am more active like house keeping or bending over etc. Leading to having to resetting my breast several times . Lace is soft and pretty . Vivid color . Fit is much better than my 32hh .
I hope you'll take some measurements!! 32J is my size so I'm always curious