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A gore won't fully tack on me...

And I'm fine with that.

I'm very short waisted. From the bottom of my ribs to the top of my pelvis, there's less than 1/2".

A level line at the base of my sternum is above the root of my breasts. So, I wear the band so the wires fit my breasts. Which puts the band usually around 1 ... 1/2 - 2" below my sternum. So, there's nothing for the bra to tack to there. I don't carry my weight up top, there's no fluff to fill that gap.

If I fight a 28 or 30 band closed, I can't breathe and the bra still is not tacking in the center.

So, I ignore that. Band is comfortable, it's not pulling up - that's the band size. The wires aren't digging into my breasts, I don't have quad boob or true side boob - that's the cup size. If everything stays in place - I'm saying it fits and is a good bra for me.

If I can't shake my boobs out of a technically too small 34FF while jumping around, headbanging, playing cello and otherwise being an idiot - and my boobs and back aren't sore after - what more do I need to do to fit a bra. In my world, nothing. Tacky gore or not.

ETA - plunge usually tack. My boobs snicker at that cup design and leap out. Silly girls.

The wires do tack nicely. Which is why the bra is still working nicely. The band is tight enough to do lifting. The cups are enough to fence the ladies in. The straps just reinforce the shape instead of working. But, the center is off in nowhere land. Oh well.
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- I can have a tacking gore but I don't need it either :)
- The more bras I try the more I find that won't tack. I could try all day and size after size, and it just won't happen. I end up with gores that are wide and wires that don't fit. I'd rather have comfortable wires and a lifting gore then an uncomfortable bra. Comfort is my #1.
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Ill fitting catwalks

Who hosts these catwalks that Stanikomania uploads?

Stanikomania!

O biustonoszach i bra-fittingu: kolekcje, wywiady, wydarzenia, wiedza.

http://www.youtube.com/user/stanikomania/videos

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- Thanks for the link! I got a better look at a Fauve design I haven't seen many pictures of. Interesting how many bands were riding up and how much quadboobing was going on. I was heartened by Cleo's use of a plus size model, interspersed with regular sized lingerie types. I wish they would post more of the upcoming collections.
- Bra companies only provide few sizes for catwalk, if I remember well it's 30e, 32f and 34dd so it won't fit properly many models.
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Sort of sorted out my size

Sort of being relative.

1 - I'm in a 32-34 band. Both are fine, the 34s aren't riding up at all.

2 - Full cups are stupid on me. I'm not even going to bother anymore. I'm very full on the bottom. Very full. A full cup - by the time it fits the bottom, ... I have enough room for my other boob in the top of the cup.

3 - Cup size - well, that's all over yet. To some degree, it depends on how much awesome cleavage I want. Ok, that's the biggest part. Then, during Shark Week, I'm up at least one cup size. Freya 34GG are tight normally. During Shark Week, ha. Their H's fit exactly the same as the GG, actually some are smaller. So I've got a JJ to try. It's the $5 bra train bra. If it doesn't fit, it's back on the train. But I've got to get SOMETHING to fit Shark Week fun, and that's the week I do NOT want to be in public.

But, with my really loved Curvy Kate Thrill Me/Tease Me bras. A 34FF does fit, it's secure, I don't have quad boob going on. But there's a LOT of boob going on. A 32HH is what fits "exactly" right. Holding the wires side by side of the 34FF and the 32HH, at least in mine, the width of the wires is the exact same, and the depth of the cups are the exact same. The extra room is that the HH cup is higher. The FF cup hits just slightly above where my boobs slope back to my body when they're jacked to Jesus, which these bras do VERY well. So, that's why I suspect I'm not getting the cutting in to cause quad boob, and I'm not spilling out because it's just above the point of doom on me. The HH covers up higher by a good 2" actually. And I had to pull the left ribbon a bit tighter in my Thrill Me, or it had a minor gapping issue.

For my unpadded Curvy Kate/Flirtelle collection - straight up 32H. And I yank those straps TIGHT. As in the sliders sit on my collarbone in front tight. But, I've got a really smooth, round shape then. I found I actually like the straps that tight, since if I need to, it's a pretty easy to adjust placement if a strap is a bit too long that day or too short, I can fix it without turning myself inside out or taking the bra off.

4 - I have no shame in modification if a bra isn't working. The usual issue is the center wires are up too high. I have bolt cutters and I have a sewing machine. Also, if a band is too big, I've found I can usually take in from the side seams easily which then stretches the back instead of from the wires on me. And trim that's annoying is GONE. Snip snip. If it's annoying, I'm not going to wear it. If the bra is perfect otherwise, I want to wear it. I also have taken the straps in on 4 of my bras now, and they still support everything perfectly, but now the dumb straps aren't in my armpits.

And now I'm wondering why I was wearing a 40 something for all that time.
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- The center wires,you mean the gore?Cause I got a Panache Andorra bra,fullcup and the gore was wayyyy too tall and so painful.I was looking at some EM bras and noticed it seems like some of the ones I like have high gores as well with the photos of the bigger model,which worries me.But if the ones I get are like,maybe I could alter it.
- Hmm. Did it not get to you yet? It says it was delivered on Monday.
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Why did Braologie fail when Deco holds me up?

Can someone please help me solve this problem? Because I want either a bigger Lacie bra or more Deco bras. Right now I am inclined to buy more Deco.

Ping Vee MilkAndHoney Does Lacie not allow any bottom room? Is that why? I am so confused. Oh and none of them are everyday bras for me but special occasion bras so comfort is pretty optional.

Comparing a 32G Freya Deco Honey (1254) with a 32GG Brao...

http://www.bratabase.com/compare/dhmny/

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- Weird that you brought up Decos because over the last half hour or so, I've been looking into them for myself.
  
  I know you pinged Vee and MilkAndHoney but I'm barging in because I'm curious about the Deco thing. I've been looking for something that "lifts" a la Michalak CHs and I found a review that mentioned the Deco.
  
  For what it's worth, The Lacie that I have is VERY shallow. I can't imagine how anyone could possibly fit the push-up pads that come with the bra into the cups and get their boobs into the cups at the same time.
  
  Lacie doesn't "lift", as far as my expectations of the definition of "lift", but it holds in all my side tissue better than any other bra style I've found.
  
  The problem I'm finding already, and I've had the Lacie only a couple of weeks, is that as tissue migrates (none of my damn bras fit!) quad-boob seems to get worse by the day.
  
  Today I wore my larger-sized Braologie (which used to belong to MilkAndHoney, and my breasts actually hurt, the way they used to hurt all the time when I unknowingly wore bras that were too small.
  
  I thought I read somewhere that Decos are disaster for shallow, wide root breasts? Am I mixing it up with another bra? I've looked at Deco half-cups, but it seems their wings are very short. For me there's no point in having cups that attempt to give me nice lift if they let my tissue escape out the sides.
- I'm pretty sure they are very different. The deco has medium wires and medium/deep cups, whereas the braologie is shallower and wider right?
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Aug 27, 2013

Is the breast root where the breast attaches to the rib cage? Is it possible to have a narrow root and a wide top part of the breast? My breasts are fairly wide at the top but when I have tried to locate my root, it doesn't seem to be terribly wide yet @Elomi and @Fantasie bras fit me very well.

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- Absolutely, this is called omega shaped breasts. Some bras that fit this shape include Masquerade Persia (6581) , Comexim , and Best Form Sophia (772) .
- Jillsas - Isn't Omega when the root itself is narrower and then the breast gets wider beyond the root? (I'm thinking of Herroom's description, rude as it was.) I think that Code_Red is describing is something I've mentioned in some of my discussions with Branarchist, which is the root being narrow near the intermammary fold, and wider at the top.
  
  This is my shape. I have a fairly narrow root at the bottom and a lot of projection. The top of my breast, however, is - for lack of a better description - smeared all over my chest. It goes up to my collarbones and into my armpits. If I do a leaning test, I look balanced: there's about an equal amount of tissue on the top as on the bottom, it's just spread over a wider area. I tend to fit best n FoB styles. (The height of my breast tissue is really only an issue in a sports bra, when I can't get all the upper breast tissue in - with a regular bra I don't mind it being outside the bra.) Wire width is tricky for me. I usually go with wider wires, which hit me at the right point in the armpit, but which are several centimeters off from my root on the bottom. I can easily see from the red marks that they are too wide at the bottom, but I know that narrower wires sit on breast tissue higher up because it hurts. I'm thinking of trying Comexim because they have narrow but short wires.
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Panache Jasmine sizing

I wear between a 34 G-GG or sometimes a 32 or 36, obviously depending on the tightness of the band (Ewa Michalak, I'm glaring at you). What size should I get in the Jasmine? Also, my boobs slide around and require a lot of adjusting no matter what bra I wear, any advice?

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- I've found that narrower wires in a smaller cup and a larger band have helped immensely with the sliding boob syndrome.
  
  I'm guessing 34G.
- What are some bras you wear in 32, and what are some you wear in 34?
  
  I find that I need a 36G in Panache (including the Jasmine), but I can wear a 34GG in a lot of other brands. So I'd guess that the 34 band is probably what you want. If you're not sure on the cup size I'd opt for the smaller because Jasmine has very stretchy lace on the top. In short, I agree with Jillsas in thinking 34G is most likely.
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Thinking of ordering my first EM bra, need help with sizing.

At the moment I wear 28F bras (based on UK sizing), but they are too big in the band and I'm pretty sure something in the area of 26FF would fit me better. I know Ewa Michalak does custom sizes, but based on reviews I've read they seem to be all over the map in terms of fit.

I guess what I'm trying to ask is, how safe would it generally be to go order based on my UK bra size? Are there any general guidelines to follow for different styles and such?

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- What style(s) are you considering ordering? That will help determine what size(s) you should try.
  
  Also, check their website -- they are on holiday through September 3, so no orders will be processed until after then.
- Once you figure out what styles you want,search on here for reviews of that style,it helps.It seems like a lot of EM bands run pretty firm,so a 28 might be ok for you.Especially the S Satine,I've heard that band is really tight.
  I also found a few bras listed here in your size range.
  http://www.bratabase.com/listings/dhwg4/
  http://www.bratabase.com/listings/dlaou/
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Cup distortion

I have a question that I hope can be answered. I've been looking for 32s as suggested and the few that I have found seem to cut into the top of the breast. Are the wires being stretched and causing the cup to distort, essentially taking the curve out of the top of the cup? How do you deal with finding a proper band without distorting the cups?

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- Hmm...it sounds like the cups are too small.
- Which cup sizes have you tried, I agree with SparkleDarkles it sounds like the cup is too small, have you tried a size up?
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Bra cuts - are they always "true"?

I've been thinking about this for a while. It is said that bras with horizontal seams will typically give you pointy boobs, that bras with vertical seams (like the Curvy Kate Entice (SG1601) for example) will offer stellar uplift, that 3-part cups are more supportive than 2-part cups. How much truth is it to this, really? Of course ... it has to do with structure, and certain structures provide different features, but I'm still curious to know if this is always the case. Have any of you been surprised by certain bras, having expected that it would act a certain way and then it didn't? Please exclude disastrous fits that threw off the whole judging point, correct or almost correct fits are allowed to be brought up here

Partly why I'm asking is because I'm looking into buying a bra pattern from www.makebra.com (they have nice patterns for larger breasts, such a shame that the band sizes are bigger than what I need though, I'll make adjustments to the pattern along the way if I decide to buy one) and even though I *think* I know everything about patterns, I'm not quite sure and I might get surprised.

The names of these patterns are different from what I'll call them, but let's call them this when discussing them here, for the sake of simplicity;

Pattern 1 - http://www.makebra.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/bra-pattern-for-larger-size.jpg
My thoughts on this pattern (provided that it fits the wearer) is that it's a highly supportive bra. The 3-part cup construction suggests it is and the straps are more centered than a typical balconette, making sure the breasts are held taut against the chestwall (note that I'm not saying they're smashed or anything, just held taut). The fact that the straps are like a continuation of the cup and quite wide suggest to me that that would add a little extra support than a "normal" balconette for example. I'm not sure what I'd categorize this pattern as, maybe a fullcup?

Pattern 2 - http://www.makebra.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/10/downloadable-bra-pattern.jpg
This is probably a pattern that we are more familiar with here at Bratabase. A 3-part cup, balconette bra with wide-set straps (not wide-set as in too wide, but wide-set) and not the fullest coverage there is. Pretty supportive but not the most supportive pattern in the world, centered straps provide better support. You are all free to disagree with me, and if so, I'd like to know why I just wanna make a discussion and see if we're all seeing and experiencing the same thing or if it's different (again, provided that the bra fits the wearer).

Pattern 3 - http://www.makebra.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/06/DL02-bra-pattern.jpg
This is a pattern that I have never come across before, at least I don't think I have. I think this is one of the more supportive patterns out there, what strikes my mind that it's probably supportive is that the straps are in conjunction with the middle part of the cup, and the straps are centered. Vertical seams are also supposed to be super-supportive, at least that's what I've heard. I guess this pattern would be more FOT-friendly than pattern 1?

If you'd like to share your thoughts I'd be very happy because I really feel like venting about this and getting feedback from the rest of you.
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- I've scoped out that same website! I gave up on it when I saw their sizes, though. Designing a bra is like designing a bridge, and I doubt I have the engineering ability to do it!
  
  That being said, I'm getting to the point where I can recognize the shape I will get from, say, two vertical seams vs. three-part cups vs. moulded lined cups. For me, the 3 part cups are undoubtedly, absolutely the most supportive, and the cups with two vertical seams often provide the most "rounded" shape. Moulded cups never really fit me properly and they tend to flatten me out and/or make me look saggy; them shape my lower breasts, where my breasts are fullest, but do nothing for the upper tissue that basically starts at my collarbone.
- I love pattern 3. It makes me wonder why it is not more common. I think having three vertical seems is the best design for FOB shapes because it allows for the most immediate projection at the base. I agree that centered straps are the most supportive, but not for all shapes. I think wider breasts need wider set straps for the best support. In every unpadded balconet I've tried the strap is attached above my armpit, where, as it turns out, I have no breast tissue so I feel very unsupported. I think pattern 3 is the solution to unpadded bras for narrow breasts.
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Sagged inframammary fold?

Plus size or old, I have no idea about the reason, but my inframammary fold is sagged in itself so that when I push the bras up to where they are supposed to sit my boobs are extremely high set, 12 cm from armpits down to the bottom of my 32G - Freya » Deco Honey (1254) band ... if arms are down. I can also literary kiss them since they are just below my chin.

Those of you that can lift your inframammary fold up 2-3 centimeters (1"), how do you bra fit yourself? I feel like lifting the boobs up to where they belong is tons more supportive. But it's also tons more constricting. Since there is no way getting out of +0 fitting method and super tightened straps.

And also wings I've been thinking of as "too short" suddenly turns "too tall".

I am again completely convertible.
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- I'm not (nor have I been) plus sized, and I hope 27 doesn't count as old, but I have this. I think I just have loose skin on my torso (it's not just like that around my underbust). But it all has to be lifted into place or it's incredibly uncomfortable, since from its lowest point the gore on an EM plunge can angle in under my sternum, and I get zero support. In fact, that's the only reason the whole arrangement doesn't climb to the higher position on my chest (the reason I can't just wear my tall-winged Tango down there).
  
  I thought I was the only one. Awesomesauce.
- psyc2321 Do your boobs also change shape when you do that?
  
  I'm thinking since when I look at pics of me from say 4 years ago my boobs were higher. But if I adjust myself in the 32G - Freya » Deco Honey (1254) then they are again as high. Or rather even higher.
  
  Also I have been so confused since my mom always used to say I was so very high on chest. And I wouldn't understand how I could suddenly be so low on chest. But then it's because I probably are just the way you describe; loose skin!
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Comexim Order Has Arrived!

So I was just whining in psyc2321's adventure that my Comexim order is taking forever to arrive but I just got the bras today and they all fit! Yay! I thought I'll just document my ordering process for those thinking of ordering too.

31 July: Placed my order via email.

1 August: Comexim replied me to acknowledge my ... order and told me that they will let me know how much to pay "in a few days". For someone used to just putting everything in a shopping cart and having them shipped out the next day, it just feels like forever!

6 August: They finally got back to me on how much to pay, and I made payment on the same day.

14 August: The order was sent out, more than a week after payment.

23 August: It took just a little more than a week to reach me, which is actually faster than expected (one of my Threadless orders took A MONTH to arrive).

All in all, the ordering process was pleasant, if just a bit slow. I can deal with that as long as I don't have to endure the nightmare of Ewa Michalak's customer service and dodgy 6% rip-off surcharge.

Bras I ordered: Comexim Jennifer, Comexim Basic (170), Comexim Mint Sorbet (227), all in 60H. I usually wear a 28F, and with the help of curlewgirl's reviews, I figured that I'm probably a cup size smaller than hers. Worked out perfectly! Measurements and reviews coming shortly!

Question: I've heard that Comexim does custom 55 bands. Does anyone have more information?
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- Wow that's great! :) I think I would fit a 60H too in Comexim. I tried the Green Velvet and Jasmine in 60HH and those were just a bit too roomy, the Green Velvet being clearly too big. After that I orderd both in 55HH, thinking that maybe the cup size would be right too. These bands were better for me, I found the 60 bands too loose. The cup sizes were way too small though :P Didn't order after that anymore, because they were on holiday or something? I did sent emails in that period but they never replied to those, even after they were supposed to be back.
- Oh wow, so 1 band size down isn't 1 cup up to get the same cup size? How many cup sizes too small do you think the 55HH is? Is the 55 band bra returnable?
  
  How do you think the 55 bands compared with Ewa Michalak's 60 bands? I found EM's 60 band just too tight for me, but I've heard they're pretty inconsistent from bra to bra.
  
  Do you think your email went into Comexim's spam folder? I heard that happens for them sometimes with English emails.
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Aug 23, 2013

So I would really appreciate some size advice from you lovely ladies about the new @Parfait by Affintas Parfait By Affinitas Charlotte (6901) bra in all the colors ( Red/Black; Peach/Black; Dusty Rose and Wild Pink) I typically wear a 28G in Freya (Taylor/Ashlee/Deco). I have very full on top breasts and I do have ... implants which means my tissue won't mould to a bra. The bra needs to mould to my breasts. I understand I will most likely experience quad boob to some degree as I need narrow and projected while I hear the @Charlotte is more shallow and wide but alas I am in love and I just have to have it But I would like to get as close to a perfect fit as possible. I figure I will need a 28 band size apparently the band is no longer firm so I hear. But do the cups fit more true to size? As I know the old one is a 30G was prefect in the band but I would have need a GG/H in the cups if the cut is still small. Please help a girl out so she can spend way too much money on some lingerie!Plus who has the best price and ships to canada for a reasonable amount.
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- http://www.breakoutbras.com/product/Parfait-Charlotte-Padded-Underwire-Bra/Underwire-Bras#review
  
  This is the cheapest i can find it. And they ship to Canada for free i think :)
  
  As for the sizing, i think go for the normal band, but up in the cup size - so probably a 28GG for you.
  I have not yet tried the bra, but i did make an adventure asking the exact question yesterday! I have read lots of reviews and i think only going up one cupsize will be sufficient.
- It just hit me - the shape of my Charlotte Balconette is almost exactly like a LeMystere Tisha bra I used to have. If you are familiar with Tisha, this bra is really similar to it.
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Shopping for 32's

Based on lots of suggestions that I should probably be wearing a 32C I headed out today to look for some. I ended up at Nordstroms and found two bras that looked good. I found a Natori Josie Etoile Contour Plunge bra in 32C. The band was really tight but the cups, although just a touch ... big, seemed to fit really well. I never realized how much I was squishing my boobs with the 34A's I've been wearing. I'm going to head back with an extender and see if it helps any.

The second bra I found was a Felina Lush Lace T-shirt bra, it looked so pretty hanging on the rack that I just had to try it on. The band felt good and the cups were really close which was good for my close set boobs. The downside was the cup shape was not at all right for my shape. It kind of cut straight across the top and left me looking weird. The good news is that I know that a 32C is not out of the question for me and now I know what a proper fitting cup should feel like.

Thanks to everyone who helped me with my fit requests and set me on the right track. I'm really looking forward to finding that perfect fitting bra
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Josie Etoile Contour Plunge Bra Style 830133

http://www.natori.com/JosieByNatori/Underwear-J/Bras-J/JosieBra_EtoileContour...

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- Oh, good! I'm glad you're trying bras with a bigger cup volume! I think a lot of people are surprised at the size of the cup they need.
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Projected vs shallow - an example between 34F Millie and 32H Andorra

I have a theory in general that for narrow wires one has more vertical cup depth and for wide wires one has more horizontal cup depth.

For example; 34F - Freya » Millie (5920) horizontal cup depth 32 cm
Vertical cup depth over vertical seam 20 cm

32H - Panache » Andorra Full Cup (5675) (the white one ... not the pearl) same horizontal cup depth 32 cm (but since lace is stretchy the result is 34 cm)
Vertical cup depth 22 cm

We are talking about a cup difference on 3 sizes with the Andorra being above GG barrier. Millie cups almost completely fill the cups of Andorra. Wire width difference isn't more than a centimeter. And still Millie straps are one centimeter further back than the Andorra bra. Add to all this that Andorra is labelled a full cup while Millie is labelled a balconette.

So how is Andorra the bigger bra? Wires are longer and so the gore and wings are taller.

I wore the Pollyanna family in 34F for five years. How could I get away with being in such a small cup? The answer is simple; Millie allows tons of room in the gore. Tons of either projection or height in cups. I used the Millie cup depth on height instead of projection. On me that bra was spread on height. Qadboob didn't happen. (Compared to Arabella in the same size which did cut my boobs in half).

Andorra allows zero room near the gore. No room on bottom and no room on top. Millie allowed tons. Both on bottom and on top. And since the wires were so low I never felt wires on breast tissue on the sides. It wasn't until I sagged down there I needed to size up.

So what gives a bra projection? So far I know of 2 factors that obviously makes a bra project:
1. Strap postion further back
2. Vertical cup depth (near the gore)

There might be others, like possibly lower wings and gores. But I'm still not sure. I do know Andorra is more of an Avocodo A cut bra, while Millie is an H cut bra. So far all H cuts bras I've seen has always allowed tons of projection with straps further apart and A cut always been held closer to the chest with straps closer to the center. (http://www.avocado.com.pl/sklep/pl/modele.html for reference).

In reality of course Millie and Pollyanna was never shallow. They just adapted to my boob shape in the front while being terribly small in the armpit.

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- I love that the phrase "vertical depth" has taken off. That was my non-evil plan all along.
- how are you measuring vertical cup depth near the gore? Horizontal is wire end to wire end right? Whats vertical?
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Calling all Jasmine owners. The cut is changed and we need your help to figure out exactly how.

In a discussion with Vee and alisa we concluded recently the cut of Panache Jasmine (6951) has been changed.

But when did it happen? And what did they do? alisa and I decided to make a bra adventure about it to ask you all to get your Jasmines for a serious comparison. If you ... have a Jasmine in blue or black could you please help us out?

Do this;

1. Measure vertical seams
2. Measure stretch lace vertically above vertical seam
3. Measure distance on top of the vertical seams
4. Measure vertical seam where side support panel are
5. Check or measure strap position

Here are the differences I can spot between my 32H - Panache » Jasmine (6951) and the Bravissimo exclusive red one in 30HH. Since they are not the exact same size it's not fail proof.

The vertical seams in the red is taller. 16.5 cm on the red. 15.5 cm on the pink.
The lace part on the red is taller
The distance between side support panel seam and vertical seam is bigger on the red.
The straps are ~ 0.5 cm further apart on the red.

Everything adds up to pink Jasmine being much smaller in cup and also closer to the chest compared to the red one.

Ping petalmoon since you own Jasmines in different colors.

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- I've got the navy floral in 34K (now 32KK), and the red floral and midnight version both in 32K.
  Got another midnight reserved to be paid&shipped soon :D
  And looking at my financials to purchase the pink version, haha. I want to own more than 6/7 everyday fitting bras!
  
  I've not compared measurements, but here's how the midnight and red floral ones compare in fit feels:
  The midnight one is definitely smaller in the cup. Band feels the same. It's the cup that's smaller, feels at least a full cup smaller. I say feels, because I do not feel much difference between my 32K and 34K cups, that might be because I'm probably in between those sizes bordering on 32KK. But the midnight print (first edition) definitely is smaller than them. Feels several cup sizes smaller. That does line up with your measurements!
  I'll try to measure them soon.
- I'll measure later, first on the "feeling" of boths bras: I have both the red and the pink Jasmine in 32K.
  Today I wore each one for about 3 hours to compare feeling:
  The pink one overall fits me better, it's more supportive, the band is tighter.
  The red floral: the band feels looser I could actually wear it tighter. Cups have lots of projection, which causes that the weight of my boobs push down the bra on the front. Straps are very seperated and most weight is on straps.
  The center gore is on both bras a bit too low on me, and after a few hours of wear boobs sag down on front. The red one gives me terrible neckpain, the pink one bearable neck pain.
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Aug 21, 2013

Just got my figleaves.com shipment in on the Freya Lauren @28ff...utter disappointment.
The shape is the same as if i weren't wearing a bra, except that it somehow made my boobs look smaller, even though the cups were dauntingly large and full-coverage-y. Style is called Lauren "padded" which is an outright lie. Now to reorder something and wait about two weeks to get it...

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- If you were disappointed that the Lauren wasn't "padded", it may be because of different uses of language. As I understand it, British people refer to padded as Americans refer to lined. The term padded is very confusing indeed, in a British society I think padded might be either one of them. Hmm... Correct me if I'm wrong, Brits.
- Then what would the terminology be for something that had actual padding and was more than lightly lined?
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Comexim :-)

Don't get too excited, I don't have them yet.

I just dropped $145 on three neutralish bras - Jasmine 2, Lychee sorbet and Laura in champagne. I constructed an email in Polish, with the English appended in case I failed at language. I don't know if that affected the response time, which was about 12 hours (so, brilliant). FYI, postage to Australia is 40 PLN.

It remains to be seen whether I've made the right call on sizing, but once I'm sure of my Comexim size, that Juliet set is mine, all mine.

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- Price of postage is not too bad, Ewa Michalak charges 70PLN.
- Yes, and I haven't been charged PayPal fees or anything! I'm super excited, now I just have to wait and see if they fit.
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Aug 20, 2013

How does Freya compare to Panache size wise?

I just got two Panache bras that fit me pretty well. Cleo Bonnie in 30FF and Azira in 32F. Bonnie fits well if I really take the time to adjust myself in the cups; otherwise I get a little wrinkling. Same with Azira, really, except the 32 band seems too big for me, ... despite the fact that my underbust measures 32". Not a terrible fit, though.

Anyway. I'm thinking of ordering some Freya bras, but I'm unsure what size I should try. I've heard that the cups run a bit small on Panache bras -- and if that's the case, then a 30FF on Freya would be too large on me. I've also heard that the bands on Freya bras run large, so I should size down there.

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- Depends on which model. If it's the Deco, I'd order a band size down with the same cup letters (because it runs large in both dimensions), if you're ordering the Lauren, I would order your regular Panache size or maybe a band size down and a cup size up (depending on how in between band sizes your are), everything else I would order a band size down and a cup size up or the exact Panache size (depending on what's available).
- To reinforce what Jillsas said, it depends on the model, you cannot compare two brands size wise, it is too broad. Some old Panache models had some traits, but newer ones not so much, same with Freya bras.
  
  What you can do is do a search by measurements for your bras. After you've measured them you can do an advanced search starting off from those measurements and then do a filter by brand, that will show you which models on that brand have similar measurements and which sizes to get for each model, of course take this with a grain of salt as different cuts will affect fit as well, but it is a good start.
  
  This is a sample search, I started from a 32F Panache Andorra Full Cup (5675)
  
  http://www.bratabase.com/browse/panache/andorra-full-cup-5675/32F/explore/
  
  Then do an advanced search and filter the results by brand Freya.
  
  http://www.bratabase.com/search/advanced/?ribcage=0.0&breast_perimeter=0.0&stretched_band_length=83.571875&band_length=65.1&cup_width=14.0&cup_depth=25.8&wire_length=28.0&gore_height=0.0&wing_height=0.0&cup_separation=0.0&strap_width=0.0&units=0&size=&brand=22&search=Advanced+Search
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Shallow Breasts with a Narrow Root?

I know it sounds weird, but it's what I've got. Even bras with an "average" width (Cleo Juna, I'm looking at you), are too wide. I'm pretty sure what I need is a width of 4.5 and a depth of <7. All my wires go under my arms, but none of my boob does, and it leaves empty space in the sides

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- I got a bra for you. It's a 30D though and it has those measurements.
- It definitely doesn't have those measurements.
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Aug 19, 2013

So after two weeks of vacation, I have concluded the following: The Freya Deco I have fits best, but I'm still not in love with the shape it gives me. I like the shape I get from my Cleo Jude, but sometimes I get a bit of poking of the underwire in the armpit, even though the bra appears to ... fit properly. (I think maybe it's just because of where the underwire ends? If it came up a bit higher following the same line, it'd be fine, but as it is right now the end is perfectly positioned to jab me in the armpit if I reach in certain ways. Ow.) My Panache Tango Plunge is even worse in the armpit-stabbing department.

I'm not sure where to go next. I forget how the various brands run when it comes to underwire shape/positioning. I'm half-tempted to just try some bra customization and add some light boning to the wings of the Tango and Jude, to see if that works in terms of directing things so that the underwire end can't get in place to stab me. I recall one of my Fantasies (pre-size change) had a strip of boning in the band on either side and it was really very comfortable...
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