I purchased this in the nude colorway. It had been a while (a few years) since I had tried this bra in a 32G and a 30H, both of which I returned and didn't document why. I decided to try it in my usual Cleo size of 30GG in hopes it would work. Nope. This bra is just too wide and shallow for me. Nothing like the Cleo balconette style bras that I have (Meg, Natasha, Maya, Marcie, Alexa, Bella, etc.). Those seem to have much narrower wires and allow for more projection. This bra fits, it just gives me a very ...flattened shape from the side and front profiles. Like someone is pushing down on my boobs from the front. I guess this is called "orange in the glass"? Any way, I don't like the profile. I get this profile from most of the other Panache styles that I have tried (Tango, Andorra Plunge, Olivia). Too bad, because I think it would be a perfect t-shirt bra.
Also of note, this had a tighter size 30 band than other Cleo styles I have tried. Read more 88 more words
This bra is often touted as being great for shallow breasts, which I thought I had. Apparently I do not, because the top edges of this bra stuck out and the large gap shows under my shirt. Normally this would be due to the bra being too small, however: the cup depth on this Maddie measures 6.3 inches. On the bra I've been wearing all day today (my old 30D - Cleo » Jo (5696) ) the cup depth is almost 7 inches -- at least a half inch difference. My actual breast perimeter, braless, is close to 8". Therefore, ...I believe that my boobs are forcing the cups to stick outward because they can't fit into the stiff cup material. I may try the 30DD in this, or I may just try the Cleo Juna (6461) , which I've been curious about for a while.
I have the 30D - Cleo » Maddie Moulded T-shirt Bra (7091) aqua leopard print (from 2013) in size 30D and it fits beautifully, so unlike other reviewers I do NOT find these two versions of Maddie to be identical. My old Maddie is slightly deeper in the cup -- almost 1/2".
Aside from the fit issues, this is a decent bra. The cups are fairly thick foam -- feels like 1/4 to 3/8". Much thicker than I'm used to from Cleo. The color is your standard nude, nothing to write home about but I'm on the hunt for a plain t-shirt bra.
*** UPDATE *** I have ordered the Cleo Juna in 30DD and the Cleo Neve in 32D and will post the results as soon as I receive them. Though I almost always wear 30D, I chose these sizes based on Bratabase reports and previous experience with different Cleo shapes.
This bra's cup shape is exactly the same as that of the Neve. It also runs true to size in the cups. Unlike the Neve, it does not have a tight band. The band runs really loose, both stretched and unstretched. The cups are also 1/4" further apart than that of the Neve. Go for for this bra if you have shallow, broad rooted, tall rooted breasts that are not too far apart nor too close together. Avoid if you are super tall and/or have a long torso.
This is such a pretty bra. The band is nice and snug. I've had to size down to a 28F (usually a 28FF). There's still a little bit of gaping due to a slight shape mismatch but I really wanted this bra and it's not enough to show under clothing.
The cups are far too tall for me and too high in the armpit. They also cut in drastically at the top. This doesn't cause quadding because the end of the cup is so high up my root. Instead, it just hurts my chest. The wires are too wide and the cup gives me a weird, oblong bullet shape (maybe because of my pendulous/soft tissue). I know a lot of people swear by this half cup, but it gives me such a weird shape and is so shallow on top; it's incredibly uncomfortable. It's the most torturous of any bra I've tried.
Okay well, I suppose this one is meant for people who are definitively FOT? Because even though I'm filling the bottoms okay, there's so much extra fabric it piles up under shirts, and I have to tug it flat. While the 36E - Cleo » Marcie Balconnet Bra (6831) seems to work out alright and that is supposed to also be a FOT style, I believe I'm closer to even than truly FOT, which I'm sort of assuming is the problem here. In terms of look, I love how it looks. I tried a blue and orange colorway, which looked great with my skin tone, and I love the dot pattern on the mesh. I also actually like the stiffer fabric used for the bottoms of the cups compared to the all-mesh styles. It seemed a bit more comfortable to me. Though I did notice straight after a swoop-and-scoop, I'd sometimes find it to be very tight across the dot pattern and cut into the breast tissue a little.
From the reviews I've read I believe this is supposed to be for FoT shapes. I'm even to FoT myself, and I find the top of this cup exactly right for me. The Marcie is supposed to be the same cut, but I find it a bit less supportive although it does mould itself to my shape more than the stiffer Minnie. I do believe I've read that the Meg/Lily family of styles is more suited towards an even shape, so maybe that's what you're looking for?
Charlotteke, I actually tried the Lily and found I had a similar problem with it that I do with the Minnie, which is odd. I'm honestly not completely sure what my shape is, because I also tried the Lucy to test the FOB, and that was definitely ill-fitted to my shape. But thanks for the suggestions!
I have wide, even breasts with tall, shallow roots.
This material the outer cup is lined with is so soft! I can't stop touching it when I first put on the bra, lol.
This bra is shallow and runs about a cup size small. The 30E fits my 28E breasts pretty well, with some minimal gapping at top. The top of the cup has some lacey-esque trim, which makes it show through some of my tight tops--this means it may not be the best choice for a t-shirt bra, depending on the outfit.
This is probably the first seamed bra I tried that didn't end up giving me mild to major quad boob, didn't immediately feel itchy or painful anywhere else, and basically just seems to fit in terms of the cup shape and size. I really like the shape I get from it, but as someone else mentioned, the underwire is oddly short. It's working to my advantage a little, because the gore is really too high for me and at first I was finding after an hour or two I'd end up with itchy red marks on the skin between the breasts. So I've pushed the ...wires towards the armpits instead. Mostly this is working out, but I was finding that long periods of wear end up bothering me there now, especially if I'm moving more, but I find this more tolerable and easier to avoid than where it was pressing on my chest. But the cups otherwise seem to encase all breast tissue, so that's been great for me. It also confirms that my shape is more even-to-FOT, rather than FOB like I originally assumed.
I'd tried the 36E because it was a sister size to the 34F that is likely my actual size, and the 36E was available so I could easily check it out, unlike the 34F. I'm keeping it because it *was* on sale, but I've also ordered a 34F to try to see if that fit is even better. The 36 band is definitely large on me, and I found the Cleo Lily I got in 34 seemed to fit much better in the band (if not the cup). So I'm hopeful that the 34F will work even better. Read more 185 more words
I feel like my boobs slope up too gradually for this bra, which wants them to be spheres instead of teardrops. Aside from the top of the underwire (at the centre gore) digging into my chest after a few hours of wear, this is a comfy bra. It's definitely a nice shape under clothes.
Update: Wore Lily again today and noticed a little bit of quadboob after scooping... well this is new.
So this bra fits okay in the lower cup, but the top has extra fabric. I think it's a cup too big. I'll keep it though because my cup size has increased from 30E to 30F and might keep going with migration so who knows? Maybe it will fit in a few months from now. I think this is equivalent to a 30FF? Might be wrong. Could try altering the cups in the mean time.
You wouldn't be the first person to experience two cups of growth from tissue migration. I found my red Cleo Marcie molded to my shape after several wears. When I first got it, the upper fabric seemed a little loose. Now the fabric lies smoothly. I did have to size up to 30FF in Cleo Marcie to get enough coverage under the arms.
This bra was a gamble. I normally wear a 30 band but this 32 seems to fit fine. I wear it on the middle set of hooks and it is decently tight enough, though not as tight as my 30 bras. I think I'm forgetting how sister sizing up works, but I think this 32E size is equivalent to a 30F band? The cup fits great. I wasn't sure if it would work because I keep reading everywhere that Marcie is for upper fullness and I identify more with having even fullness. But it seems to work for me so I'm not sure what's going on exactly. I haven't come across a Cleo unlined bra that hasn't worked for me (in the correct size, anyway.)
Cleo bands tend to run tight. You are correct 32E is the sister size of 30F. Do you identify as having even fullness when you're wearing a bra or when you're not wearing a bra? The fullness thing is based on how your breasts tend to look in a bra. Paradoxically, it's something you tend to learn after you find bras that fit pretty well.
I always thought fullness was based on how your breasts look while leaning 90 degrees at the waist while bra less. My nipples point towards the ground while doing this so I've read that means even fullness. At least that's what the Reddit community explains.
Yes, leaning parallel to the ground can give some information about fullness on top vs. on bottom. I believe in our size range it tends to be less useful than for those in the 30H range. The blogger at brasihate.blogspot.de came up with the idea, and she was in the 30H range at the time. The blogger is an extreme FoT shape, and her best friend is apparently an extreme FoB. The 90 degree leaning over test is more useful for those at the extreme end of FoT or FoB.
The more subtle manifestations of FoT or FoB appear when boobs are in bras. If Cleo Marcie works well for you, then you may be even, or perhaps you underestimated your upper fullness. Does the Cleo Lucy's cups work well for you, too? As you probably already know, Lucy will work for FoB breasts that don't find a good fit in Marcie. If both Marcie and Lucy work well for you, you probably have even fullness.
Fits perfectly. Very similar to the Cleo Ellis and Kira bras that I own. I am finding that my size is going up and I may need to start saying goodbye to my 30E bras which makes me sad. The embroidery is cute but I'm not really a fan of the print. Still, it gives a really nice shape and the top lace lays flat all around so this bra is a win.
I first tried the 32G, which was way too big in the cups for me (see pictures, they are all for the 32G version. I'll try to add the pictures of the as well 32FF later). I swapped it for a 32FF, and we have lift off! Now the fit is very similar to my red Minnie in 32G, so I suppose the blue color way is just a bit bigger than the red version, I'd say it's almost a full cup difference, as the blue Minnie in 32FF is only a smidgen smaller than the red Minnie in 32G. I'd suggest everyone who wants to try this style to order two sizes per color.
If you want to know what I think about this bra in terms of fit, lift, comfort and so on, look at my review for the red Minnie!
The general consensus on this bra is that it is open on top, and I agree with that. The lower cups are shallow on me. I seem to be a bit between sizes in the Marcie. This 30C I could just barely get settled into, but I think the 30D would be too wide for me so I'm sticking with this one. On my larger side (right) I look kind of stuffed in, and from the side it looks like the wire is stabbing me, but I'm just soft there -- I swear I don't feel it during wear. The band is pretty true to size. I'm thrilled to have another unpadded bra that fits and creates a great silhouette courtesy of Cleo . I wish they would stop discontinuing these sizes!
Holy cow this is a tight band!!! (as many others have said). Also as many others have said, there is a cup flaring issue that tends to happen on one side. Whatever it is, the weird cup edge is blatantly obvious under shirts; see my pic in the yellow t-shirt. As much as I tried to rationalize keeping this bra, I saw that picture and decided I'm not going to walk around in public like that.
Unfortunately, for those reasons, this bra has to go back...which is a huge shame because it really should be the perfect bra. I do love that the cups don't have ...all that heavy padding in them... the foam is relatively thin, flexible, and comfortable. It's too bad.
*** NOTE per SOPHISTICATED PAIR website: "Neve suffered from defects during its initial run where the cup would crease outward near the center; however, I have been assured that the problem has been rectified."
** EDIT ** I've ordered a 32D. I liked this bra so much that I wasn't ready to write it off yet. I thought more about the cup curling and realized that the curl was happening on my larger side, and a few other reviewers said the same thing. I checked out the cup depth of bras that fit me well, like my 28E - Cleo » Jude (5846) and my 30D - Cleo » Jo (5696) , and the depth on those (7.3" and 7.0", respectively) is at least 1" more than this Neve which measures only 6" deep. I then looked up the one 32D Neve on Bratabase and it seems to be more on par with my Jude and Jo, so I'm giving that size a try. Will post updated review when I receive the replacement.
Pretty thing. Fits just like the bra -- very open on top and perfect for tall roots and/or upper fullness. The band is perfectly tight and the cups fit me like they're painted on.
The lace part that hangs down is completely sheer and open in the back. Not exactly nightgown material and it's much too gorgeous to lounge around in anyway, so I intend to use it as a layering piece. It's especially perfect under this (semi-sheer) white dress http://www.freepeople.com/shop/voile-and-lace-trapeze-slip/ or as a skimpy sheer top paired with a sexy leather jacket to hide the open back and equally sexy Blackmilk leggings http://blackmilkclothing.com/collections/leggings and ...I'm derailing this review too much so I'm going to stop now.
I like it.
Minor edit: The centre gore is exactly half a cm taller in the babydoll compared to the bra. this is visible when held up against each other. weird. doesn't really change the fit. Also, I didn't include the floppy lace thing in the front in my measurements.
Bought this bra in two sizes and The one size that fit (32G) fits wonderfully! Narrow gore and wires. There is a surprising amount of projection in this bra! gives a very lifted round upfront shape. brand new with tags. Will be adding pictures and listing this bra
I am on a mission to collect as many 28D Marcies as possible. This yellow one was my first ever eBay purchase. It's pretty much the exact colour of piss on a hot summer day when you haven't had enough water. It's the colour of the Walmart smiley. Bright, shameless, obnoxiously yellow. I thought I would hate it but actually... I kind of like it. It is now the loudest piece of underwear I own. And because it's a Marcie and fits me like it was made for me, it makes me happy.
This is my new favorite unpadded bra. Everything about it is fantastic for my shape and my tastes. First, I LOVE the colors. Blue and pink are my favorite colors, so this was automatically a winner. I love how it is simple block colors on smooth fabric. Textured mesh fabrics and florals seem to rule the world of unpadded bras, so I appreciate the minimalist aesthetic of this bra very much.
The fit and comfort is incredible. Cleo Meg (6751) was a fail for me, but this improved version of Meg is nothing short of a winner. About me: Even fullness, projected, narrow, short roots, ...close-set. This bra satisfies all of my needs, and it felt like butter upon first wear. The shape it gives under clothing is uplifted, slightly rounded, and up-front. I am quite loyal to Polish bras, but I have to say I prefer the shape of this bra to my Ewa Michalak SMs.
Of course, leave it to me to fall head-over-heels in love with a discontinued bra. I am now on a mission to find more of these lovelies, and I will also try the newer version, Cleo Erin Balconnet Bra (7911), soon as well.
You look wonderful in all your bras. I would die for your shape - you certainly have great taste in your bras.
Paula50 Thats very sweet of you to say. It has taken LOTS of trial and error in different types of bras to find the shapes that work for me. You'll get there!
It does take a lot of effort right?! I think deep down I wish I was just a little larger busted. You look terrific and I hope you have a great day. P
You have a figure I would die for - and a bra collection like nothing I have seen. P
Paula50 Ha, well I don't own ALL of those bras right now. I've been here on Bratabase for about 6 (six, wow!) years, so those are just all the bras I've added over time. I tried lots of bras in the wrong sizes/shapes before I figured out what I was doing. Even after that, many of those have been sold or returned, as my size has fluctuated a bit over time. I think I have about 25 right now, which I guess is still a lot! Finding properly fitting bras has made me a bit of a bra addict, haha.
Thank you again for your sweet comments. I had a bad day, so it was nice to hear. 😊
Ahhhh - I thought your collection was all of them, but with 35 you still can almost wear new one every day of the month. My collection is about six strong. I am sorry to hear you had a bad day yesterday and hope everything is okay. Glad to know my comments gave you a smile. All my best and hope today is a great one!!!
I have wide, even breast with tall (and shallow) roots.
I have the Cleo Marcie itself in candy pink, and now the babydoll in rasperry. I have heard that the pink Marcie runs small, and now I believe that to be the case! The raspberry babydoll gaps at the top, especially on my right side. Shortening the strap made little difference.
Off the body, the bodice seems very, very short. On the body, it does not seem as short (though it honestly will still probably be shorter than you are expecting it to be!). There is elastic along the bottom of the skirt, and the whole skirt is stretchy which ...is interesting. The skirt does not meet in the back.
It has been a long time since I have written a review, and thus I am not sure what else to say, lol.
I got this babydoll off of Amazon for 35USD (it shipped from England, however), so if you are really wanting to try this, go get it while it is on sale (as it is something that rarely goes on sale)! Read more 71 more words
From the reviews I've read I believe this is supposed to be for FoT shapes. I'm even to FoT myself, and I find the top of this cup exactly right for me. The Marcie is supposed to be the same cut, but I find it a bit less supportive although it does mould itself to my shape more than the stiffer Minnie.
I do believe I've read that the Meg/Lily family of styles is more suited towards an even shape, so maybe that's what you're looking for?