Ellace Balcony Bra (CK4401)

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Ellace Balcony Bra (CK4401)

Since AW2015 - Unpadded balcony bra with stretch lace in the upper part of the cup. More...
This bra is discontinued.

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30DD

Used to fit

This bra is surprising, in a few ways.
Firstly, the band is strangely just one layer of thin, stretchy mesh, not firm powermesh. Secondly, the bottom of the cup makes my boobs... Wavy?? Lumpy?? Not sure what's going on with the seam between the two lower parts of the cup, but you can see in my angle shots there's a strange dip in the middle. And the third thing is the cradle shape. By this I mean that the underwire channeling is super short, but the gore isn't a plunge. This makes the gore almost too high or wide, especially would be if you have super close boobs, ... and the under channeling end very shortly under the arms. What also doesn't help is that the underwires are over half an inch shorter than the channeling, so they're definitely too short in the underarms. I can push the wires away from the gore and into the underarms, which helps, but we'll see if they stay in place.
Despite these few strange construction quirks, I like the fit and overall shape it gives me. I wish the 28E was available to exchange for. By the measurements and reviews here, I was afraid the 28 would be too small. But with the super stretchy fabric, it might be necessary. Then again, i find stretchier fabrics create less flattering back rolls, and would prefer firmer fabrics over tighter band with stretchy fabric.
I LOVE the color... So much I bought the matching panty, which I rarely buy sets! Haha. It's a size 10 and fits without stretching much at all over my 38" hips. This would be fine, as it doesn't cause any cutting in, but it means there's too much fabric in the front and it wrinkles. Not sure if I could be bothered to exchange it for an 8 (granted it's available).
Overall, I like this bra; the style is beautiful, and it gives my boobs a lift. The stretch lace upper cup helps with my tall roots despite the overall cup design being short. My right side is slightly too small, but fits the left nearly perfectly! Will wear for a day at home when I can before determining if it needs to be returned or exchanged. If I keep it, I want to add a layer of powermesh to make the band more firm!
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Crimson red colorway

Updated on Jan 23, 2018 Flag this
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  I have the 30E of this one coming soon. I hope that it will work for me.
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  I found this one to look better once is bit too small. The cups give nicer and rounder shape . Also I found the band to be tight, my 32s feels like other brands 30 or polish 70. Size 30 I hardly could breathe and I’m 73cm under bust
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  Looks great on you! I have one coming in the mail too (30E). Can't wait to try it. I opted for the blue since I already have a red bra, but I do love that red. The other curvy kates I've tried didn't work on me (princess, gia, others I can't remember the name of), so I'm hopeful that this one does!
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  Crimson red is a really nice color on you!
- 2
  
  This looks nice on you. I've seen a lot of ppl say this isn't quite right for them but they're keeping it because it's comfortable. That's my experience too.
- 1
  
  Fantastic colorway on you!
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30HH

Didn't fit

This bra is truly stunning. The deep crimson color, the slightly darker bow on the gore, the lace on the wings, and the stretch lace upper cups are all beautiful. It is rather a lightweight bra, I would love it if it felt a little sturdier, and I miss Panache's padded straps (these are wide enough to be supportive, but they do tend to twist/warp just a touch).

It has three columns of three hook and eyes and stretch lace upper cups with a trim on the edge of the cups. The trim may cause it to cut into full on top or tall rooted breasts. It has a ... full band, which does tend to roll under on me. It has loads of room in the bottom of the cup at the underwire, as well as by the center gore. It fits my larger (left) breast perfectly, though it is slightly too large for my right breast. It is too wide for me, but it doesn't generally cause any discomfort.

It gives a very projected shape that is rounded. CK Ellace has really become one of my favorite bras since my size changed. https://d28qt14g3opchh.cloudfront.net/smileys/icon_smile.gif" alt=":)" />
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Crimson colorway

Updated on Mar 04, 2017 Flag this
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  I love that colour! Looks great!
- This is gorgeous on you!
- I have the same color in 38HH. It feels the same lightweight and less support in my size too. It is so beautiful and looks lovely on you.
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30G

Didn't fit

Very short, projected, slightly narrow, close set, center full, even breasts....

This is Bardot....improved. The band!! Ellace has a firm piece of peach elastic to which the cups and lace are sewn. This elastic dramatically improves the weight distribution of my breasts. In Bardot, the wire "dug in" under my most projected breast. Ellace's elastic prevents that pain. Wow.

Although I don't yet have a reliable method to measure this, Ellace feels more immediately projected than Bardot. However, this feeling may be more closely related to the weight distributing effect of the firm, peach elastic. Whatever it is, Ellace feels more supportive than Bardot.

Ellace's fabrics are softer and smoother. Mesh ... is not my favorite, but Ellace's mesh is soft! Not quite as soft as the mesh Lejaby Mellisia band, but considerably softer than Bardot. I would not recommend Bardot to those with fabric sensitivities, but Ellace may be acceptable.

The stretch lace across the top of the cup may be a problem for soft breast tissue. My shorties present in-cup quadding at the seam. However, this may be caused by my prominent nipple sitting above the apex. I would prefer a stretch lace with elasticity more closely resembling the mesh lower cup. That may come in Ellace 2.0 https://d28qt14g3opchh.cloudfront.net/smileys/icon_wink.gif" alt=";-)" /> This is one detraction, but it won't prevent me from wearing this very comfortable, supportive bra.

Ellace can accommodate taller roots than Bardot because the cup is .5" taller and the top of the cup is stretch lace rather than mesh. However, Ellace remains a wonderful option for short-rooted, projected breasts.

The 2nd 30G Bardot I ordered will be returned and replaced with another 30G Ellace. https://d28qt14g3opchh.cloudfront.net/smileys/icon_smile.gif" alt=":-)" />
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White colorway

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Updated on Jan 30, 2017 Flag this
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- 1
  
  This looks good on you! Do you find that the cups run true to size?
- They feel very true to size. However, if you have tall roots, you may need to size up.
- Thanks! As someone who's still trying to find my ideal size, I think I may try a 30FF based on your review. I'm also short-rooted.
- I'm curious how a 30FF would fit, too. I look forward to your review!! :-) :-) I have the straps tightened more than they should be. A 30FF may fit me, too. :-)
- 1
  
  Where did you find the new colorway?? I've only ever found the black one.
- 1
  
  Brastop :-) Fantastic price on the white!
- http://shop.brastop.com/search?view=&w=Ellace
- 1
  
  ooooh they even have the latte version! *must not buy bras*
- 2
  
  Nevermind, it's "not available to purchase in your region" - solves that!
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  You are saved...."not available in your region."
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  Love4Pollinators and lcl0706 , the two of you are such terrible influences on money I don't have... but I am grateful for your insight, experience, and guidance. :)
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  thanks for the review! nice to hear something nice about a curvy kate :)
  
  I do think you'd be much more comfortable in this in a 30FF.
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  I also loved this bra but it was a bit wobbly on my 40HH breasts. You can also try the Curvy Kate Florence Balcony Bra (CK8001), which I found to fit exactly like the Ellace but with a non-stretch top portion.
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  Wonderful look on you. Just another bra I would love to have but does not come in my size.
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30H

Didn't fit

I am a little disapointed at this bra. I had tooo high expectations.

Sizing: both the band and the cups are a little bit small. Not a full-size smaller than average, but still a little bit smaller than Panache for example. If you are between two sizes of full-on-top, I suggest going up a size.

Aesthetic: The bra is cute, I am not used to white bras, but the peach details make it cute. It provides a good shape, rounded and not too wide.

Materials: I feel like the fabrics are not on point yet. It's like if this bra was a prototype in which Curvy Kate tests stretch ... lace. In my opinion they still have to work on their fabric choices. The strech lace feels a little cheap, and it is a very loose type os elastic. Therefore many women will have in-cup quad-boob in this bra. Especially those with FOT or even breast shape. The stretch lace seems to take a too large part of the cup. On my biggest breast, my nipple was almost «pointing» out of the lace while it should be on the mesh. Maybe it's just my breast shape?

Construction: The wings are high, making it supportive, but at the sime time uncomfortable for shorter women. The wiresare average width and the gore is quire narrow. The wires are thin and pointy and the wire channels do not have any form of padding. This makes the bra delicate looking, but very uncomfortable for women whi are sensitive to pinching wires like me.

Overall this is a nice bra, but that will fit better tall women with very FOB brest. On the other hand, I do not reccomed this bra for women with FOT, full on the center, soft or pendulous breats.
This is disapointing because I tought stretch lace was «made» to accomodate different breast shape, like Panache Andorra et al. do very well.
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Updated on Sep 06, 2016 Flag this
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- In one size smaller than I needed, I experienced my nipple popping over the mesh, too. It amazes me how well it lifts you. Lightweight, but stromg. Have you tried an extender? The band on my 30G is quite tight, too.
  
  Sigh. Sorry this wasn't what you needed. :-(
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  No I can deal with the band. I will still return this bra because of the underwires poking under my arms and at the sternum. I am very sensitive to this, that's why I always end up with Fantasie bras. Not amazing lift and shape, but no pain!
- Wires are the reason I'm in wireless bras now. I find the poking intolerable, too. :-(
  
  Glad Fantasie bras don't poke!!
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  I tought about wireless bras, but I can't stand my breast sticking together... I know I am picky!
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  Sigh. Boobs. You aren't "picky" you have standards and won't settle for anything less. :-) :-)
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  I was intrigued by this bra, but your review makes me think it may not be a good fit for me. I guess I'll just stick to Ewa Michalak BM styles when I want stretch lace. Though, I may still try this if I can get it at a discount with free shipping and returns. You know, for science. :)
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  Haha! We're bra scientists.
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  Just because you *can* stand the band doesn't mean you shouldn't try it with an extender. If the band is being stretched more than it should be it will distort the fit of the cups. It looks tight, it's possible this would have fit differently with the band less strained.
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  Oh that's an interesting point! Unfortunately I don't have any extenders and I don't like the bra enough anyways so I am returning it. But it would have been interesting to see if the wires would have been narrower and the cups deeper.
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32E

Used to fit

My shape: close set, center full, full on bottom, average/narrow width roots, tall shallow roots, soft tissue.

I've been meaning to write this review for a long time, and I must say, the more times I wear this bra, the more I like it. This bra was recommended to me here on Bratabase and I'm glad I could get it.

The cup is a three part cup with one vertical seam and one horizontal seam. The stretch lace up top is accommodating and fits me well throughout the month as my breasts fluctuate in size. The top seam doesn't cut in either which is nice. I get a small ... wrinkle on the side with this bra (on my the right side which is smaller) but this doesn't bother me. I tried the 32F size and it gave me a lot more wrinkles both on the side and at the top of the stretch lace. The wires okay, a little bit flexible, but not too much. Definitely not as hard as Panache bras!

It gives me a more natural shape, which I have come to love. It's definitely not as rounded as some of the other bras I have, but I still feel uplifted in it. This bra stays put in my IMF pretty much all day so it gives me great support.

The gore width is a little larger than I'd like, if it had overlapping gores if would be perfect. I sort of push my center tissue out into the cup so the gore can tack and lay flat. The gore height is okay (around 2.8" or ~7cm).

About the band, it is pretty firm! I had trouble in the beginning getting used to it. It has a firm elastic running its entire length and I couldn't get the band to stretch a lot for the measurements. The stretched band measurements for the four 32 bras I tried were 28", 28.3", 29.3" and 29.5" (around 71-75 cm). The 30 band size I tried also stretched to 28". So all the bras I tried definitely ran a bit small in the band.

The straps are nice and firm and adjust nicely. They can go super short or long and are fully adjustable.

About its overall look, there's nothing really special about it. It's just a nice regular bra, no fancy embroidery or patterns. It has more of a practical and functional look in the sense that it only has three little bows adorning it. It would be nice to see this bra made in some nice patterns, maybe even another type of fabric. Overall, this was a bra win for me!
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Navy/Wine colorway

Updated on May 28, 2019 Flag this
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  Sometimes, the "nice, regular" bras are the best bras...they serve and serve and because they fit so well, they make us feel the best! Celebrate the win. It looks great on you.
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  I agree. I actually really love the Ellace aesthetic.
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  Thank you ladies! AprilGoulding Calluna You both have helped me so much in my bra quest, I appreciate it. ❤️
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  braluv, I think this is the most complete and thoroughly written bra review I've ever read! :) Totally descriptive. Nothing's been left out! You are a very good writter!
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  Thank you DarianaWheeland That’s so nice of you to say! I’ve been learning more about how to write these by reading everyone else’s reviews here! 🙂
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  Thank you DarianaWheeland That’s so nice of you to say! I’ve been learning more about how to write these by reading everyone else’s reviews here! 🙂
- We seem to have a lot of similarities (full on bottom but tall roots). I'm waiting on a prime wardrobe order that includes this bra and I can't wait to try it!
- Bootyfoots I hope you like it! Curvy Kate also has a new model, it's called the "Top Spot" that's supposed to be like the Ellace too. This one: http://bra.pe/MHz1/
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32DD

Fits

I fell in love with this bra while browsing Amazon, and it was on sale in my size. The sale was a major factor in ordering since I hadn't had much luck with the last Curvy Kate bras I tried. I'm so happy that I decided to try the Ellace, it is an amazing fit for me. It gives a great round and lifted shape without being minimizing, and is very comfortable.

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  Looks fantastic!! This is my most comfortable and supportive bra: the elastic!!! I SO hope my size's price DROPS soon, too. So glad you like Ellace, and got a GREAT price! :-) :-)
- Oh. I've had great results using red as a nude--crimson may work. I'm certainly willing to try :-)
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  I'd like to try Ellace, too. Great fit for you!
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  erispe I absolutely love this bra, and I'm picky about unlined. It's also the only non Polish bra that I am wearing on a regular basis
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  OK. I'm convinced. Let's see that pay-pal balance :)
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28K

Hasn't set fit

Okay so I just got this bra the day before yesterday (Jun 10). Before I say anything else, let me state that I have not ever found a bra that fits me mostly well. I usually wear a 30J but I'm somewhere between a 28JJ and 28K. Mostly because of my full on top breasts. I find that I have to wear bras with stretch laces to accommodate them, but even then I can have some serious spillage going on.

Okay, on to the bra. I got mine in black and champagne and I love the look of it. From the little beige/champagne bows against the black strap.To the ... elastic lining at the base of the bra. It provides a nice contrast that gives an oomph to the overall look of the bra.
Material wise, it feel very sturdy.

On to the fit..Remember how I said I was pretty full on top? And that sometimes I'm still spilling out of the tops? Well no such thing here. If you're talking about spillage being directly above the lace. There is a part in the bra, where the mesh component meets the lace. At that part there is a bulge where the lace is. However, due to where the cut is, it is not obvious when worn under a blouse. I suspect if the lace had started higher up then it would be more noticeable. The true test however comes from when I wear it for a full day. I'll be sure to let you know how that goes. As for the band, it seems pretty firm and true to size, so that's another plus for this bra. The straps are also fully adjustable.

My only real complaint are the heights of the cup, it is directly under my arm pit, and it rubs against my right arm especially. This could be because I'm short (4ft 11inch) so I guess average height ladies won't have that much of an issue with it. I don't know how this would fare on a full day of wearing which is why I haven't specified comfort as yet.

All in all though, I think the bra is a pretty good bet.
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Black and Champagne colorway

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Updated on Jun 12, 2016 Flag this
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28F

Fits

This bra is a game-changer for me. It is currently the only bra that fits. My only complaint is I wish the straps were a bit less uncomfortable. The adjustment piece of the straps indents my skin and is quite uncomfortable when I lean back against a hard surface (such as a chair). Also, the place where the strap connects to the band is a bit uncomfortable for me for some reason. HOWEVER, this is my first time wearing a bra that actually fits and the first time wearing a non-sports bra in quite some time. I'm sure my skin/body will get used to it.

Edit: after wearing for some time, my ribs started to hurt in certain areas and when sitting, even though the band is not too tight or loose, the band gets pushed lower than my IMF. Overall, my body has not been able to get used to this bra. Changing comfort from good to meh. Debating whether I have rib flares or if my muscles make bras hurt me so much.

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30E

Fits

This band runs a little tight (which is good for me as I usually prefer a 28 band). This bra is surprisingly comfortable and supportive for such an insubstantial looking bra. I am not convinced that it would be especially supportive for much larger breasts but I find it super comfortable. I was expecting to find the center gore too narrow and high but I love this!

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32FF

Didn't fit

I wanted this to work soooo bad https://d28qt14g3opchh.cloudfront.net/smileys/icon_sad.gif" alt=":(" /> I guess it kind of does, this might be the closest I got to a good fit with a bra that is not Ewa Michalak.

I decided to try Ellace because it seems to work for everyone. The colourway Mulberry was on sale, so I was like... eh... can't hurt, right? Right? WRONG.

Ellace in 32FF is the first bra in which I can't get a firm gore tack. The wires overall seem more flexible than any other bra I have tried apart from, maybe, 34E - Bravissimo » Dina Bra (LN578) . So ... there's a first for everything. It's still a soft tack, it's sitting against my sternum, just the very top of it feels more like it's floating rather than sitting on it. The wires are also more narrow but not narrow enough for me, if I was looking for perfection. Maybe average width?

You can't see it in the pictures but as is usually a problem for me with stretch lace on any but EM bras (seriously, what DOES she do that others can't figure out? I am so confused by this), I get in cup quadding due to change in tension. In Ellace it is not that extreme as it usually is, though, which makes it workable. Maybe it won't show in thicker shirts. Three part cups, with the top obviously being stretch lace. There is an elastic along the top of the cups (a la Fantasie, but it's stretchy) that also slightly cuts in. I know I am aaaaaalways going on and on about my very soft tissue but it's an actual real problem with bras! It's devastating to have a bra fit so well and then all of a sudden there's random bulges everywhere due to it just being so soft it gets moulded by whatever is trying to mould it. There is zero resistance. More than anything about my boobs, I wish they weren't like this. But anyhow.
I don't think I need larger cups, as my smaller side also quads so I think it's just a tension/tissue mismatch.

The band is snug, not tight. The additional elastic they added along the bottom of the band really does work to provide more comfort. I was surprised there's some really nice lace between the cups. Unfortunately, it feels like there's some weird tension going on in the band. Like maybe I need to close the top of the band on a tighter hook than the other two. I am not sure that this is something I want to do. The top of the band just feels loose -- maybe that's why the gore is not tacking. Omg I just closed it on the tighter hook and the tack is a little firmer! That's so weird. I think for optimal fit I'd need top tightest hook, middle middle hook, and bottom loosest hook, but my fingers are just not that athletic right now.
Maybe it's a colourway thing?
edit: managed to do the finger gymnastics. Yes I can confirm the gore now tacks.

The straps don't adjust long enough and it bothers me. On my larger side it's definitely pulling down more than on my smaller but ya know? Story of my life. The straps are also reeeeally wide set and as they have the scallopy edges it might take some getting used to.
edit: nevermind, the straps are a world of pain. They are so short actually that putting on my 70FF - Ewa Michalak » Sf Blueberry (1420) was a relief! Lol

I don't know if I'll be wearing this bra out. The longer I wear it, the more the quadboob is pronounced. I don't wanna return it as it's an annoyance having to return stuff, I didn't pay much for it so eh, whatever.

This bra gives a very very pretty round shape btw. I would recommend it to anyone who doesn't have the same issue I do with most stretch lace bras. I think the stretch lace would work great with cyclical changes as well!

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Updated on Nov 09, 2018 Flag this
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- I had that same issue with the in-cup quadding (and out but that's another issue). It wasn't that noticeable for me
  initially under clothes, but I wonder if I had some growth spurt around that time, because it was really pronounced a few weeks after (which was then compounded with quadding outside of the cup)
  
  I didn't recall having that issue with the band, so maybe it is a colourway thing? I do remember the bands feeling more comfortable. So I think that elastic really does help.
- It honestly feels like the lace kind of makes a little bulge all around. Squeeze on one side, squeeze on the other = bulge. It goes from being barely visible to being very very obvious under anything but a sweater. I'm thinking of maybe sewing some stretchy tulle under the lace, maybe that would fix the issue...
- Ooh, probably the tulle will give it some structure? So it's not bulging?
- This is what I'm thinking. The folded over tulle like EM does in some of her bras should provide more structure. Now I only need to figure out how to do it lol.
- I love the comparison to Ewa bras! After Ewa, is there really anything else that can work?
  
  And the dreaded V back band design. While awesome for those with a V frame, it is a nightmare for those of us with a | | or / \ frame since the top of the band flares instead of supports. :-\
- This has to be some extreme V back cause the top of the band is like an 34 while the bottom is a 30! Crazy
  
  And honestly, I would really really like to know what it is that she does that is so different than others! In all of Ewa bras I have tried, there is only one that gives me some semblance of in cup quadding (Baklazan) and even that is barely visible unless I really really puff my chest out. But it's all stretch lace! How is it so different?! I can't figure it out and it's really frustrating me lol.
- I've experienced the exact same thing with the band:
  https://www.bratabase.com/picture/dkqqc/
  
  It's just crazy!
  
  With Ewa I think it's more than just the reinforced tulle, as I have several models that aren't reinforced and still no in cup quadding. (SF Szaron, the half lace BMs etc) all work beautifully with just the lace.
  
  It may be that Ewa provides more depth at the apex instead of tapering back in like many brands do? So the bottom of Ewa cups are like a shelf while CK here is like a lipped ledge?
- Yes exact same thing except I can't take a photo from the back to show it! It's like loose all around the top, first time I have experienced such a thing.
  
  Her cups seem to have a different shape overall, which might make a big difference. The little cut and sew piece that attaches the cup to the strap seems to also be absent from any other bra I've tried, it's either strap directly to the horizontal part of the cup, or the side support panel which goes vertically throughout the cup. It just might be that this little piece makes a difference :/
- Could be! It may be a combination of all ideas too, like a domino effect. All aspects needed to create the bra to perfection! :D
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  Seems like a lot of folks report in cup quadding with this bra. I know cupandahalf has done an alteration to remove it: https://www.bratabase.com/albums/bzj/
- I have the same fit problems with my latté and crimson Ellace bras. The lace bubble is worse on the crimson than the latté and the uneven band tension is a pain. I have to use extenders with both of the 30s I have because new, they only stretch to 28.5" for me, which is my snug ub measurement (28-28.5") though I did wear the crimson for several hours the other day without the extender and was ok. It was definitely tight and left thick reddish pink marks at the lower band area, though the marks didn't stay. I get them even with the extender though. I'm torn. I really want to try a 30F in it to see if it fits better than the 30Es I have.
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  I honestly don't see this fitting any better on me in cup size up tbh. My smaller side is already gapping at the top of the cup near the strap, and I cant even imagine how much wider the wires will be in 32G.
  
  I don't see red marks as a bad thing, I get them from panties, socks, jeans so I figure a bra is also normal.
  If it bothers you, though, then it's definitely a problem!
  
  @sovavosi I just saw this but gosh that seems way out of my capabilities!
- brasaremean that is kind of what I worry about if I try a 30F. The cups would have more room though, so the band might not feel as tight, and the cup is a little bit taller which might help some. But I do worry about my small boob having too much space. I'll have to take some updated pics for my albums. I think that I might redo my site measurements and re-evaluate the bras that I have for the fits, since so many of them are not fitting me now.
- Yes I think much as it would aif with the tight band too-large cupscome with its own problems, such as fabric bunching up along the wire, empty at the apex, lace gaping, pointy shape etc. I'd say if you have a chance to try it to see you should, but ordering online nah.
- Oh gosh mobile fat fingering.
- That loose fabric in the corners because the top of the band is not quite as tight/taut will still be a problem and the elastic band at the bottom is still likely to leave the same thick mark...but I'm still curious to try because it has good immediate depth and the style looks great on me. But I think that I want to buy new so I can return it as needed rather than buy used here. But I have considered buying the one here....it's just that I really want to try a BM and am trying to save the money for one. But I'm tempted by a few of the listings here that I could get 2 bras for the price of 1 new. I'm having that struggle right now.
- You can see the mark I mean here. I'd been wearing the crimson Ellace prior to trying the latté on. Look just below the band.
  
  http://bra.pe/IipP/
- Honestly, I regret spending money on anything other than EM bras now, even regret buying the one SF instead of just buying another BM, lol.
  
  And yeah, I see the mark. Does it hurt? Does it go away fast? Are you seeing any permanent indentations from it?
  I think no matter how severe the marks are they should be gone within 15ish minutes from the body. The indentations will depend on how easily your skin/body 'imprints' (I really cannot think of a word in English for it-- does it even exist?) I can for example just lean on something textured and within a couple of minutes my skin will take on the texture and look all red and angry... then it takes about 10-15 minutes for it to go away.
  Again, it depends a lot on your dis/comfort. If you feel uncomfortable because of it, then it's definitely an issue.
  
  BTW, if history repeats itself a black friday sale should happen in the EM store in less than 15 days eh? Might be cheaper to buy that than to order from CA/USA stores?
- Honestly, I've never paid much attention to how quickly it fades, but it does kinda hurt, though I am not sure if it's because it's too tight or simply the material used for the bottom of the band.
  
  I was thinking about the Black Friday sale, though I don't know what to expect for discounts and I don't know if I will have enough by then. I'd also have to get it shipped to someone in the states as I don't want to deal with DHL. But it's something to consider. Thanks! Maybe Broad Lingerie will have a Black Friday sale too.
- Honestly, I've never paid much attention to how quickly it fades, but it does kinda hurt, though I am not sure if it's because it's too tight or simply the material used for the bottom of the band.
  
  I was thinking about the Black Friday sale, though I don't know what to expect for discounts and I don't know if I will have enough by then. I'd also have to get it shipped to someone in the states as I don't want to deal with DHL. But it's something to consider. Thanks! Maybe Broad Lingerie will have a Black Friday sale too.
- Honestly, I've never paid much attention to how quickly it fades, but it does kinda hurt, though I am not sure if it's because it's too tight or simply the material used for the bottom of the band.
  
  I was thinking about the Black Friday sale, though I don't know what to expect for discounts and I don't know if I will have enough by then. I'd also have to get it shipped to someone in the states as I don't want to deal with DHL. But it's something to consider. Thanks! Maybe Broad Lingerie will have a Black Friday sale too.
- Dang duplicate comments, sorry!
- I think that Curvy Kate has actually updated this model since this colorway was available. Alot of people were complaining about the uneven tension of the band and how stretchy the stretch lace was and that it caused a lot of issues with the firmness of the bottom cup. If you do try again you may want to try the new release color, navy and wine i think it is called.
  You definitely might want to invest in some good strap elastic (or pre-made straps) to make your straps longer when not purchasing through EM. Also, I think EM uses really good quality limited stretch lace instead of the fairly cheap super stretchy lace that most companies use. Sometimes the biggest difference in fit and wear is simply the quality of the fabrics. Then also the methods used to attach it to the non-stretch portion of the bra. Sooo many things go into many quality lingerie that things like CK & many bra companies just don't think of or do. You know, they send a pattern to a cheap manufacturer to make the most $$ and it ends up how ever it ends up.
  The color is very pretty on you.
- I love the colour! I wish I could find a quality review by someone in new colours and a comparison with the old ones to see if they actually did fix the lace and the band. I wouldn't mind cashing out for the bra if I knew 100% they fixed this because otherwise it is a great fit.
  
  Straps being short is just how life is for me, lol. Idk if it's that I'm really low set or above average height (I don't think I am at 171-173cm--can't remember if it's either or-- there's a ton of taller girls than me, at least where I live), or maybe a combination of both :/
- Yeah, even I agree that the straps are short and that never happens. 😂
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  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dzvpP53c9wo
  
  this video makes me thing the lace is about the same tbh. You can even see it bulging on her slightly, which means for me it would probably be just as extreme as Mulberry
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  Yeah I totally see it there. But at least the band looks better. XD
  
  And opening up two tabs one with this bras pics and the other with the BM from Ewa I can easily tell a huge difference. The Ellace has ALOT more stretch lace than the BM. The BM cut goes over the apex of the breast and then the lace is attached to give support and comfort to the only the top section of the breast, the BM also isn't supporting the center/inside of the breast with stretch lace like the Ellace is. It's always so interesting for me to study the build of the bras. I look at it and can almost see the pieces turn into little pattern pieces in my head.
  
  Atleast you have a very pretty bra you can wear on lounge days and during the winter. And best of all, if you ever decide to play bra-engineer this one was cheap and you could easily play with attaching different fabrics under the lace to see how it works. ^.^
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  brasaremean You can always take the wires out of this one and make it into a bralette too :)
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  And totally, thanks for the link. I spent like the next half an hour just watching the different lingerie.
- Calluna It is not just you experiencing the discomfort in the band btw. I was wearing it today just to see how it feels wearing it for longer and I swear the actual lower part of the band is a 30, while the top is like a 34. It's been really tight and uncomfortable at the loosest hook on the bottom.
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