Ok short question: how do those recommendations work? When it says " this bra will fit you" does that mean it will fit me because of my bras that I reported as fitting or because of my measurements? I have added several bras that do not fit me anymore, how can I do this undone?
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Hi !
It is not really a bra adventure, it is more a fitting help. Sorry if I post in the wrong place.
I want to buy the strapless toffi, HP koktajl, and maybe a PL Onyx from Ewa Michalak, but I don't know what size.
I already own a CH Toffik in 70D, the band is perfect, the cups are too bigs ... ( but when I have "big boobs" before my periods the size is perfect, it is why I keep it). I think 70C is my normal size in this bra.
I read the CH Toffik runs big in the band, so do you think I need a 75 band (my ribcage is 72cm mesured very tight, 77-78cm loosely) ?
Do you know how are the cups in the HP, strapless and PL ? Do I need a cup size down like in the CH toffik ?
Do you think the plunge will cut in the breast tissue in the center ?
I know the best way to know what size I need is to try many bras, but your advices can help me (there is not a lot of Ewa Michalak bras in my size in bratabase, it is hard to compare with myself) !
Thank you very much
ps : my shape is the "shallow breast with broad base" (or something close to this shape), full on bottom and on the side. My boobs roots are very close together (it is why I want to buy from ewa michalak, I need a narrow center gore), with a wide and hight root (but my breast's roots are in the front of my chest, not under my armpits).
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The Toffik does run huge in the band compared to the PL line. I'd say almost 1-2 band sizes, I wear it on the tightest clasp, and it could frankly be much tighter. The Ewa bras do have a nice narrow center gore, and the PL one is super low, so it doesn't dig into the sternum at all. The PL does seem to have really short straps.
I think you could wear a 75 band with some Ewa bras. (Sadly, I don't know which ones.) My advice would be to mess with 75C, 75B and 70C in comparision. I think you might neeed a 70C in one bra and a 75C in the other. Sadly with small cup sizes the sizing with Ewa can be a bit inconsistent, especially if you switch between cuts.
Ewa Plunges are really open at the rim of the cup, chances are high they will *not* cut in. The Ewa Plunges are the exception to the rule that most plunges cut in. Also the Ewa PLunges have wider wires in your size range than the CH cut, as a rule the PL cuts tend to work better in your size range than the CH cuts. I think Ewa bras could be your dream bras.
The PL Onyx can be difficult for sizing, bc the first batch of that bra came with a loose band and the second and third batch with a very tight band. Depending upon the bra you get, it can be too tight or too wide. PL Black might be the better choice in this regard.
Hope this helps a bit.
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I understand that some clothing needs to be broken in. Hiking boots. Dress shoes. Blue jeans. But bras? I have always been picky about my bras, never taking anything home that wasn't perfect in the dressing room. The closest I usually come to giving a bra a true trial has been wearing it around the house for a day without ... taking off the tags.
There are two bras in my drawer that I have kept despite my discomfort, and have since come around to liking. One is a Curvy Kate Portia that I kept because it was dirt cheap and big enough in the cups. After wearing it with an extender for a year, the wires no longer poke me in awful places, and the band is relaxed enough to wear comfortably on the loosest hook. The shape was originally rather pointy, but now I think I'm more rounded.
The other is a Panache Tango Balconnette. Historically, I have hated Panache, finding every aspect of the bra uncomfortable. But I've worn it for several days and finally like it. Yes, the underwires are still too tall for my petite body, but they don't dig in to my sternum like they did at first. The cups are more formed to my breasts. And the fabric--even before washing--is no longer incredibly itchy. I can't believe that the bra has changed so much in such a short time, especially since I really disliked it during those first few days.
I might not buy Panache Superbras in the future, but I no longer dismiss them out of hand and might look more carefully at Cleos with higher gores than the Toni. As for Curvy Kate, I think I need a 30 band in the unpadded styles, and really want to find my Showgirl size. There is hope yet for my perfect bra!
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I understand that some clothing needs to be broken in. Hiking boots. Dress shoes. Blue jeans. But bras? I have always been picky about my bras, never taking anything home that wasn’t perfect in the...
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I wrote here how to apply for the shipping coverage in your listings.
You'll see this link now when you make a listing and also on the listing page.
http://www.bratabase.com/pages/shipping-coverage/
Coolness! Thanks Jj.
Does anyone know how much cup depth increases from one size to the next size up? My concern is mostly in Masquerade's line, but if anyone knows in general that would be fine too. I think I've heard it goes up about half an inch in depth?
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I'm not sure about Masquerade specifically, but Freya and Panache in the underwired soft cups generally have a .75" difference in cup depth between cup sizes in 28 and 30 band sizes.
Thanks so much Deedlit! I wonder if it's the same in the lined, thicker cottony material bras? That sounds more accurate though than the 1/2 inch.
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The whole multiple D system confuses me to no end.
Is DD suppose to be equivalent to E or is that DDD? Does that make DDDD similar to an F? I saw one Wacoal bra labeled G in Macy's today. It was a band size too big though.
I'm pretty sure I'm a 32FF. I was trying on ... bra's at the Nordstrom's Rack. (FYI most of the bras were around $30, so it's a good place to check if they have your size.) They had a couple of Freya's and Cleo's but there were no FF sizes just F's and G's. The 32G's had just a little bit of gaping, and the 32F's I felt like I was spilling over on the side. I tried a 30G that fit pretty well in the cups but I didn't like the style of the bra.
Do FF's not translate to American sizing, is it like a weird inbetween size? Or was it just a coincidence that they didn't have them? Because I've been on size conversion charts before and they don't list FF under UK sizes. http://www.brasize.com/uk-to-us-eu-fr-it-au.html So is the chart wrong or am I missing something?
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Usually on Nordstroms tags they have size equivalents for different countries. Even at the Rack they should still be listed like that. DD can be an E in some brands but so can DDD, and that can also be called an F. Freya, Fantasie, Circus Kate and Panache use DD, E, F, DD, G, GG, and so on. Chantelle is a bit different, I believe they follow American sizing even though they're French (I think?), so their sizes would go DD, F, G, H. Check the tags and if you need to, because sometimes Nordstroms sales associates can be daffy, ask what the specific UK size is. I've had so many times going into that store asking for an F and the bring me an E in US sizes. Then sometimes they overcompensate and bring me a G in UK sizes!
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Just noticed thw link. Those seem a little off. But again it does depend on brand.
I guess I should add that a lot of the tags were mislabeled. I had to check the labels on the bras. And those had the same size for UK and US.
And the DD/DDD/DDDD/G confusion happened at Macy's. I doubt I'll go back there. I don't think they had my size regardless.
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This adventure took 4 hours or so to write. Bare with me since you will follow my journey of 4 very emotional hours.
So I bought five Effuniak bras. HP Nina 34G, HP Nina 36G, HP Nina 36GG
I'd say HP Nina 34G and 36G both fits but still doesn't fit. Meaning one has gaping at top and one has overspill under ... my arms. One has killer cleavage and one has subtle beautiful cleavage. Both hurts breasts in the front center from the center gore being slightly too separated.
CHP Mak 34G - quadboob big time.
CHP Koktajl 34GG slight gaping at top but if I would alter the straps and tighten them I would probably need to be careful not to overspill in it. No hurting in the front of my boobs.
On all the bras the straps are far too far out on my shoulders and gives me terrible neck pain.
Also when I sit down I will have more gaping.
And if I take down the straps this will be obvious: The band and the wires in this bra cannot hold me.
But if I lean forward and simply hold my hands on the cups in a leaning over position I will totally overspill.
Why?
Is my Effuniak CHP Koktaijl 34GG then too small or too big?
Let's try something different. Lean over, lay the boob in the cup and boom you'll notice the bra is too small. It doesn't even go around your boob. What appears to be too big cups are way too small cups.
And the band is so loose I can very easily fit two hands underneath. It simply doesn't hold the cups up and my way to heavy boobs weigh the bra down making it appear way too big. And all the weight is on my shoulders.
So this is where I conclude:
1. A bra band might feel too tight since it has sloped down in the front pressing on my rolls, ergo stomach.
2. A smaller cup and bigger band will give me better cleavages but kill my neck since I will constantly tighten the straps to get the boobs up.
3. A tighter band will feel more like a corset. But it will be more stable and take away the neck pain.
4. I will always be in between sizes whatever size I choose. In the smaller I will quadboob and in the larger I will have gaping at top. I am indeed very full on top.
5. Tighter bands and bigger cups looks better under clothing.
6. Bigger bands and smaller cups looks better in the bra.
7. I need the higher coverage from the 34/36 bands.
8. I need the stability from the 30 bands.
But the most important thing of all is this:
9. I'm not only sagged. I'm also soft and have so much migrated breast tissue I doubt my boobs will ever be healed. The damn saggyness and softness and migration do make me appear what I'm not.
And here's the solution to all my bra fitting problems:
I just did this experiment: I laid flat at my back, I held the breast on the sides so that no tissue would fall to my back. I figured my boob then would shape itself the way it's supposed to be. My goodness the shape is simply perfectly rounded with a huge root and extremely high on chest and indeed very shallow. I am even shocked to see it. I wonder if they have ever looked that way and I simply didn't see it, because I am indeed in total shock.
Or did I have a forgotten memory somewhere deep inside? Because how would I else see this shape as ideal and build up a fairytale about looking the exact way as I actually happen too look?
But at least I now have all my answers.
I have indeed migrated about 25% of my boobs away.
I am indeed in too small cups and too big bands. But I do need the coverage of the bigger bands to hold my migrated breast tissue in the cups since I am so damn high on chest. So I will need to buy bigger bras and alter the bands and the straps. Just the way I've done with my Andorra 34J that's now a 30K.
Because I do have a bra size and it's 30J/JJ/K
I never ever thought migration actually could change the shape of ones boobs. Ever. So if you suspect having migrated breast tissue I'd recommend doing my test. Simply hold the boobs on the sides so that all the migrated tissue ends on the chest. Look at the shape.
Because the shape your boobs will have when laying on your back and having all the tissue on the chest is probably the shape you will get from the ideal bra. It's a way quicker way to see if you have migrated breast tissue than waiting forever to make it end on the boobs while scoping.
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Lol...not mine. I have a small amount of migration, infact earlier today I found the bottom crease where if should be. But this...this just makes me ultra deflated and a couple sizes smaller in appearance. The tissue spreads out all over the place. I don't think it's an ideal method of determining shape or size, at least not for me.
I'm a little confused though. You say you need the coverage a larger band gives...wouldn't it be smaller?
I have the same problem with the straps always being too wide set/digging painfully into skin. I think women with more tissue on the sides of their breasts can have this issue since they need more containment on the sides yet there is too little space between the strap/outer underwire. Also it seems it happens if their shoulders are narrower yet need a larger cup to contain all the side tissue or boobs in general. It really changes the whole fit of the bra, causing gaping at the top because when the straps are too far into your armpits, it stops the side of the cups from being pulled far back enough to contain all of the tissue (since your arms are pushing the straps/cups to the front) and forces a "set shape" thus the gaping. I really feel your pain. I have had to spend lots of time altering straps which is not as easy as it sounds, because you must also restitch the piece of elastic that goes from the tip of the outer wire that meets the strap or else the bra won't fit like it's supposed to. It really is worth the time spent making the bra perfect rather than wearing a horribly fitting one... I just wish we didn't have to go through so much to make them work for us.
Also will you be adding any pictures/measurements of those bras? I've always been in love with Ewa bras but I am pretty sure they would not suit my shape because of their depth and projection, unless I try to alter it like above. The sizes you bought are what I think I would need in EM bras. :)
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So, this has been anoying me for a while... Eversince Ive stopped craming myself in too small bras, I have been noticing vertical movement has increased while walking. I've been wearing mostly Cleos lately. Has anyone had the same experience? Or is this a sign of an ill fitting bra?
I am starting to think I need more coverage. Does anyone know a full coverage bra that will not make me go east-west or too pointy?
Ive been looking at the bouduir beau, not sure about the sizing.
How much jiggling do you guys get from andorra?
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Vlatka, I don't know enough to answer your question, but I wanted to say I love how your atavar says, "Because chocolate can't make you pregnant"! I think I'll bake a chocolate cake this weekend in support of that sentiment!
I'd say it's quite logic. Boobs will jiggle in the direction they're allowed to. I jiggle in every open top bra as long as the bra doesn't sit extremely tight or the cup's are not extremely small - meaning I jiggle as far as I scope.
My Andorra 32J didn't jiggle. My Andorra 34J did jiggle. The altered Andorra (close to a 30K) doesn't jiggle.
So I would say as a general rule: tighter bands, tightened straps and total coverage on top.
It might ruin the bra sooner but it will hurt shoulders and boobs less.
Sad thing is that aesthetics, biology and the laws of physics and geometry simply doesn't combine in the ways we would like them to do.
I think we expect too much from one bra. We will need different bras for different tasks.
As with shoes and clothing in general :)
So if you say study or go to work; put a bra on and walk from home. Switch bras while at work. Wear the second bra at work, and before you go home switch back. Just as we do with shoes :)
As far as Andorra +Vlatka goes I'd go with the purple 32HH. The purple are more sturdy than the ivory or white versions. I have yet to try the black though so I don't know about that one.
Since you are Curvy Wordys smaller twin maybe go with her rule with buying bras too small and allow them to stretch out. I think it's a sound advise as long as one is not having a lot of migration going on.
We do that with jeans so it makes sense doing it with bras as well.
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... how did this work, again?
I know somebody recently asked the same question, but I can't seem to find the thread and due to baby-induced 'sleepdeprivationdementia' I really can't remember the details. Maybe an idea to add this info to the FAQs?
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I think it was me who asked this question. I was told to message Jj or go to the Feedback bar on the left of the page.
iI am terribly sorry, iI will write about this on the faq and on the listings' help Page. Once you close the deal and figured how much it will cost to ship, send me a message via the feedback form or email or however with your PayPal address and I'll transfer you the money.
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" Low Riders or High Flyers?
Make sure your bra lifts your breasts to the right height by taking this little test: measure the distance from the top of your shoulder to the crook in your elbow. Find the midpoint. Your nipples should be parallel to this point, halfway between shoulder and elbow. If they are not, try shortening the straps ... a bit for that extra lift."
- Rebecca Apsan, http://www.thelittleflirt.com/Fitting-Room.html
That means my nipples should be sitting at 5". Even more confirmation that I was wearing all my bras too low. I also took my overbust measurement again without a bra, pushing myself up to 5" from the shoulder with my arm. 36".
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From what I've noticed - some girls are wearing bras too low because the band is too tighto fit under the bust and it slides down.
Mmmm I sit a little lower than this ideal probably for 2 reasons. My boobs are set kinda low anyway and I do not tighten my straps otherwise they chafe my armpit area too much.
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It reports that because of your current measurements. Other users who added those bras and reported them as fitting must have entered similar breast measurements to yours.
Right now the site gets trained only by brsa that fit you but not by bras that don't :-/
If you have bras that fitted you at some point but not anymore, enter your new measurements and you can go now to report how they fit with youre "new" boobs and say they don't
The sad part is that we have to believe in good faith that those people know what consitutes a good fit. For example Freya Deco 32FF and 32G report different band fit! It also says the 34FF will fit in cups but the 32G has too small cups. I just won't be buying the Deco because I have no idea how it'll fit me.
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